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Debbie82 · 02/21/2011, 02:24 pm

I know that Hayden did this on the World of Monkey Island forums, but I just have to share it with you.

If there was one thing that was extremely memorable about Tales of Monkey Island, it was the cliffhangers. Each episode finished with what was basically a cliffhanger - each one leaving the audience with unanswered questions, each one cutting off the episode just when you were eager to see what would happen next, and each one making us all eager for the following episode. At the end of "...Narwhal" we saw Guybrush confronted by an unknown woman (Morgan LeFlay) wishing to kill him for some unknown reason, at the end of "Siege..." we saw Guybrush, Winslow and Morgan swallowed by a terrifying beastie, at the end of "...Leviathan" we saw Morgan double-cross Guybrush and take him into captivity, at the end of "Trial and Execution..." we saw Guybrush die and LeChuck & Elaine clash swords, and at the end of "...Pirate God" (after the credits) we find that Morgan was somehow connected with the Voodoo Lady throughout the whole course of events that took place, and that she is about to set out on another quest for the Voodoo Lady; this cliffhanger not having a conclusion yet.

So - simple question - 5 great cliffhangers, which was your favourite?

Hayden · 02/21/2011, 11:04 pm

It's nice to see this thread in more than one place; I'm interested in seeing what other people think.

For me it's hard to decide between Episode 1 and Episode 4. Both were great for very different reasons. Episode 1 ended at a completely unexpected moment, and it left us players with one single question that needed answering - "who is that woman". Whereas Episode 4 ended at an appropriate moment, and left us with a ton of larger questions which needed answering.

But, for effectiveness, I would have to say Episode 1 had the better cliffhanger. It may not have been the best ending, but it basically defined what a cliffhanger is.

Albo Abourt · 02/22/2011, 12:23 am

Chapter 1 for me. That was the most interrogative.

VeronicanPlay · 02/22/2011, 12:23 am

Episode 4, no doubt about that.

Most emotions, and kept me up all night and started my computer at 5 before going to work, just to find out what happened after and if Guybrush was ok.

Spadge · 02/22/2011, 12:58 am

Manateeee!!! Heck, that one was my favorite...

Debbie82 · 02/22/2011, 08:14 am

For me, that end part of Chapter 4 had us racing for the Kleenex, and turning on the waterworks a bit. That death scene is kind of reminiscent of Li Mu-bai's death scene in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. At least it made us glad that Earl Boen had returned as the "Demon" LeChuck, but still, watching the human LeChuck impale Guybrush and leave him to die in the arms of his wife Elaine while LeChuck regains his voodoo powers makes us feel as though we'd been stabbed in our hearts with the Cutlass of Kaflu ourselves.

And yet, we're a bit unaware that we would gain control of Guybrush again in Chapter 5, as a ghost in the Crossroads this time.

mgrant · 02/23/2011, 08:14 am

Episode 4 had probably the best emotional cliffhanger, but I'm actually going to say the 'MANATEEEEEEE!' cliffhanger in chapter 2. It was so out of nowhere that I just about died laughing at my computer.

Javi-Wan Kenobi · 02/23/2011, 08:59 am

I voted for Chapter 1, even if only for all the expectation and guessing on the forums (Who is she? Is she Cate Capsize? Is Carla the Swordmaster?...)

Debbie82 · 02/23/2011, 02:14 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgrant

Episode 4 had probably the best emotional cliffhanger, but I'm actually going to say the 'MANATEEEEEEE!' cliffhanger in chapter 3. It was so out of nowhere that I just about died laughing at my computer.

Actually, the "MANATEEEEEE!!!" cliffhanger occurs at the end of Chapter 2 and repeats at the beginning of Chapter 3.

mgrant · 02/23/2011, 02:50 pm

Crap, I thought I put in Chapter 2, way for me to make a typing fail. Thanks for catching that.

Javi-Wan Kenobi · 02/23/2011, 02:55 pm

I not only find chapter 3 to have the worst end/cliffhanger, but also chapter 4 to have the worst beginning...

Gman5852 · 02/23/2011, 04:50 pm

episode 4 as the best no doubt
Episode one was ok but expected a pirate hunter would attack
Episode two was random and to me was second place
Episode three sucked and was expected
Episode five, we might as well forget, Lucasarts are not going to make let telltale make another game.

Episode four though. Telltale made it so OBVIOUS that Guybrush would die in this episode, and they STILL made it surprising. Same goes with Lechuck, so OBVIOUS he was evil, and I was still shocked to see him turn on Guybrush.
When something so obvious was going to happen, and it still was SHOCKING, THAT is good storytelling.

Debbie82 · 02/24/2011, 08:15 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman5852

episode 4 as the best no doubt
Episode one was ok but expected a pirate hunter would attack
Episode two was random and to me was second place
Episode three sucked and was expected
Episode five, we might as well forget, Lucasarts are not going to make let telltale make another game.

Episode four though. Telltale made it so OBVIOUS that Guybrush would die in this episode, and they STILL made it surprising. Same goes with Lechuck, so OBVIOUS he was evil, and I was still shocked to see him turn on Guybrush.
When something so obvious was going to happen, and it still was SHOCKING, THAT is good storytelling.

You're forgetting that there is also a resurrection story in Chapter 5, you know, and it has something to do with Guybrush.

Gman5852 · 02/24/2011, 08:24 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie82

You're forgetting that there is also a resurrection story in Chapter 5, you know, and it has something to do with Guybrush.

What?

coolsome · 02/24/2011, 08:44 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie82

You're forgetting that there is also a resurrection story in Chapter 5, you know, and it has something to do with Guybrush.

Was Pirate God set 3 days after Trial?

mgrant · 02/24/2011, 08:54 am

I think it was implied to be a couple months or so...

View Poll Results: Your Favorite Cliffhanger?
Chapter 1: Guybrush at swordpoint	7	12.96%
Chapter 2: Guybrush and co. enter the manatee	5	9.26%
Chapter 3: Morgan's double-cross	0	0%
Chapter 4: Guybrush's death and a duel swordclash	33	61.11%
Chapter 5: Morgan and the Voodoo Lady's unknown connection	9	16.67%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

02/21/2011, 02:24 pm	#1
Debbie82 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Hartford, CT Posts: 562	Best Cliffhanger in ToMI (MAJOR SPOILERS!) I know that Hayden did this on the World of Monkey Island forums, but I just have to share it with you. If there was one thing that was extremely memorable about Tales of Monkey Island, it was the cliffhangers. Each episode finished with what was basically a cliffhanger - each one leaving the audience with unanswered questions, each one cutting off the episode just when you were eager to see what would happen next, and each one making us all eager for the following episode. At the end of "...Narwhal" we saw Guybrush confronted by an unknown woman (Morgan LeFlay) wishing to kill him for some unknown reason, at the end of "Siege..." we saw Guybrush, Winslow and Morgan swallowed by a terrifying beastie, at the end of "...Leviathan" we saw Morgan double-cross Guybrush and take him into captivity, at the end of "Trial and Execution..." we saw Guybrush die and LeChuck & Elaine clash swords, and at the end of "...Pirate God" (after the credits) we find that Morgan was somehow connected with the Voodoo Lady throughout the whole course of events that took place, and that she is about to set out on another quest for the Voodoo Lady; this cliffhanger not having a conclusion yet. So - simple question - 5 great cliffhangers, which was your favourite? __________________ SPOILER LINK! I will stay forever here With you, my love. The softly spoken words you gave me... Even in death our love goes on. And I can't love you, anymore than I do. -- Evanescence, "Even in Death" Last edited by Debbie82; 02/21/2011 at 06:18 pm.

02/21/2011, 11:04 pm	#2
Hayden ...is procrastinating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 3,485	It's nice to see this thread in more than one place; I'm interested in seeing what other people think. For me it's hard to decide between Episode 1 and Episode 4. Both were great for very different reasons. Episode 1 ended at a completely unexpected moment, and it left us players with one single question that needed answering - "who is that woman". Whereas Episode 4 ended at an appropriate moment, and left us with a ton of larger questions which needed answering. But, for effectiveness, I would have to say Episode 1 had the better cliffhanger. It may not have been the best ending, but it basically defined what a cliffhanger is. __________________ Read that instead ^.

02/22/2011, 12:23 am	#3
Albo Abourt Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Catania, Italy Posts: 80	Chapter 1 for me. That was the most interrogative. __________________ From Melee To Monkey, and all the Island in between , my love...

02/22/2011, 12:23 am	#4
VeronicanPlay Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 902	Episode 4, no doubt about that. Most emotions, and kept me up all night and started my computer at 5 before going to work, just to find out what happened after and if Guybrush was ok. __________________ History Abhors a Paradox. I apologize for any grammatical errors my posts might contain. My Blog Moved to a new blog, no new entries

02/22/2011, 12:58 am	#5
Spadge Not a Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 832	Manateeee!!! Heck, that one was my favorite...

02/22/2011, 08:14 am	#6
Debbie82 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Hartford, CT Posts: 562	For me, that end part of Chapter 4 had us racing for the Kleenex, and turning on the waterworks a bit. That death scene is kind of reminiscent of Li Mu-bai's death scene in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. At least it made us glad that Earl Boen had returned as the "Demon" LeChuck, but still, watching the human LeChuck impale Guybrush and leave him to die in the arms of his wife Elaine while LeChuck regains his voodoo powers makes us feel as though we'd been stabbed in our hearts with the Cutlass of Kaflu ourselves. And yet, we're a bit unaware that we would gain control of Guybrush again in Chapter 5, as a ghost in the Crossroads this time. __________________ SPOILER LINK! I will stay forever here With you, my love. The softly spoken words you gave me... Even in death our love goes on. And I can't love you, anymore than I do. -- Evanescence, "Even in Death"

02/23/2011, 08:14 am	#7
mgrant Planscaping it Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: York, U.K. Posts: 545	Episode 4 had probably the best emotional cliffhanger, but I'm actually going to say the 'MANATEEEEEEE!' cliffhanger in chapter 2. It was so out of nowhere that I just about died laughing at my computer. __________________ "Aras ∂a bi ronde rof oretta, heard under helme, hiori-sercean bær under stan-cleofu strengo getruwode anes mannes; ne bi∂ swylc earges si∂!" Trusting a 'loth is a lot like keeping a snake for a pet. It's not a matter of 'if' you're going to be bitten, but a matter of 'when'. Last edited by mgrant; 02/23/2011 at 02:50 pm.

02/23/2011, 08:59 am	#8
Javi-Wan Kenobi Adventure Gaming Jedi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estella, Navarra, Spain Posts: 1,060	I voted for Chapter 1, even if only for all the expectation and guessing on the forums (Who is she? Is she Cate Capsize? Is Carla the Swordmaster?...)

02/23/2011, 02:50 pm	#10
mgrant Planscaping it Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: York, U.K. Posts: 545	Crap, I thought I put in Chapter 2, way for me to make a typing fail. Thanks for catching that. __________________ "Aras ∂a bi ronde rof oretta, heard under helme, hiori-sercean bær under stan-cleofu strengo getruwode anes mannes; ne bi∂ swylc earges si∂!" Trusting a 'loth is a lot like keeping a snake for a pet. It's not a matter of 'if' you're going to be bitten, but a matter of 'when'.

02/23/2011, 02:55 pm	#11
Javi-Wan Kenobi Adventure Gaming Jedi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estella, Navarra, Spain Posts: 1,060	I not only find chapter 3 to have the worst end/cliffhanger, but also chapter 4 to have the worst beginning...

02/23/2011, 04:50 pm	#12
Gman5852 The smartest moron Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: under your couch Posts: 5,893	episode 4 as the best no doubt Episode one was ok but expected a pirate hunter would attack Episode two was random and to me was second place Episode three sucked and was expected Episode five, we might as well forget, Lucasarts are not going to make let telltale make another game. Episode four though. Telltale made it so OBVIOUS that Guybrush would die in this episode, and they STILL made it surprising. Same goes with Lechuck, so OBVIOUS he was evil, and I was still shocked to see him turn on Guybrush. When something so obvious was going to happen, and it still was SHOCKING, THAT is good storytelling. __________________ Sign up for Tribes:Ascend, its free FOR THE NEWBIES: Blue names=normal member Grey names=community mod(As in, NOT a Telltale employee, they just keep the peace here, that's it.) Red names=actual telltale employees.

02/24/2011, 08:54 am	#16
mgrant Planscaping it Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: York, U.K. Posts: 545	I think it was implied to be a couple months or so... __________________ "Aras ∂a bi ronde rof oretta, heard under helme, hiori-sercean bær under stan-cleofu strengo getruwode anes mannes; ne bi∂ swylc earges si∂!" Trusting a 'loth is a lot like keeping a snake for a pet. It's not a matter of 'if' you're going to be bitten, but a matter of 'when'.

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