Doodo's Musings

[Ribs]

I don't believe in either.

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[doodo!]

Belief is a concept, not a reality!

[taumel]

I think alpha waves are groovy for adventure games.

[doodo!]

Alpha waves are associated with creativity. So, I could see that.

[doodo!]

It continues.

Originally Posted by A

When a person is young it is more important to them to try to determine reality on their own rather than to be told what it is.

Consequently I came across the same tired and hackneyed beliefs of various people who have been discredited throughout history (first mover argument), whether after reading or independent of knowing of these arguments. It's a part of learning

As for belief as a concept as opposed to realization of reality - know that your sensory faculties have no choice but to bombard you with sensations of reality. As far as Morpheus and Descartes would have you believe, just because sensations are impulses interpreted by your brain doesn't make them unreal - that you feel sensation means that there is something causing the sensation. If you misinterpret it, it doesn't change that you saw or felt or believed something.

I lost track of who it was (thunderfoot probably) on youtube, but he made the point that if you saw a lumbering tyrannosaurus walk down the road and around a corner, and then despite your best efforts you were not able to obtain any evidence to prove this (not eye witness confirmation of people on that street, no foot prints, no dna evidence, no video surveillance, etc), you will HAVE to eventually conclude that what you thought you saw may not have been as you thought.

This is why belief and concepts alone are not a good gauge of reality, for they can be faulty or fallacious or completely false.

Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys

Actually, that's exactly, literally what it means. Putting a word in quotations doesn't change its meaning. If you want to use a word other than "exists," try, you know using that word instead

The 4th dimension is time. I hope most of us are already aware of the existence of time. The past is generally rather well documented. More well documented than it should be, really. Who wants to lose a job opportunity at the age of 50 because of something they said when they were 12?

Originally Posted by spirit

I was using it as a example, not a literal scientific argument.

Anyways, if you're not going to think creatively, abstract, with me, I don't see the point of having a conversation.

If you would, will, it's apples to oranges.

The meaning of a word is not the same thing as the concept of a word. We only have a limited understanding of the meanings of words. How we define things often changes over time, take that for the fourth dimension.

Language is a limitation to understanding the universe. I know you might disagree and I don't have the time, interest, to explain the concept to you. You might have time to disagree and put together a argument,that's fine. And logic, well that's like math, and although there's plenty of that to go around, their will always be more...Trying to define things because of equations and calculations is purely academic. These things are validated by human existence, but ultimately their is far greater depth to the universe.

Take coding for example though, in abstract sense.

Well, I program in C++, and really isn't something you can't do. At least it is the most flexible programming language. If you want something flexible, take C. And I'll give you some more advice: Take C++. C has some really annoying things that C++ fixes. There really aren't limitations. And C and C++ are good. They're the ones you'd start out with, and the ones I'm continuing in, but if you really liked classes in C, you could try Java. It's really class - based.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_t...#ixzz1GloQdzD7

You might be surprised how often reality is compared to a computer.

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by DAISHI

Altering brain wave activity may put you into a coma. The issue of human perception of the surrounding universe goes beyond something as simple as brain waves.

yea me and my friend where bored so I thought it would be cool to alter each others brain waves for a laugh. Now hes in a coma any idea how to fix him before his folks come home?

[doodo!]

Originally Posted by coolsome

yea me and my friend where bored so I thought it would be cool to alter each others brain waves for a laugh. Now hes in a coma any idea how to fix him before his folks come home?

Now, it all makes sense about George C. I am just joking of course.


I think what I was getting at is that language is a limitation, and that in reality things are NOT ultimately represented by a language, and that like a computer/ program there's different ways of decoding the universe that as human beings we ultimately can't process.

YES, essentially, we do discover alot, we are academic, but I'm sure we are defective, limited by our vessels and that there is possibly a whole other way of seeing the universe, if not just far more in depth.

[doodo!]

I'm going to experiment on the brain waves of my dogs. Yes, they will be my experiments.

YES YES!!! it's working, my dog Jasper is a good subject to the experiments!

[doodo!]

I don't want to try one, but I might try a OBE

As the real me. This question is hard to answer, if we are confined to physical reality. People have died for a short period of time in what is called a NDE (near-death experience) and write about seeing their soul and recognizing that it is the real person, not their body.

I did go through such an experience, and while my body was being smashed in the accident, the real me, my soul, was going through another experience at the same time.

We are complex beings, we have a soul and spirit housed inside a body.

This is along the lines of my previous topics, that science and academics are a human experience of the physical universe.This reality is limited, observed, understood in language. The universe is not coded in language. Language is a limitation we create to confine, define our ideas, observations within ideas. We see the universe by what limitations, and definitions we notice.

We are like a program, software running off a circuit board. Human science observes the physical universe inside of human experience and potential.

Science is a discipline of studying processes, and a process, discipline of observing processes.

It's ultimately man made even if true, factual. It's one tiny peek into reality, one tiny version, incomplete data that is worked out from only the human potential to observe it.To collect it.

We see, think, feel, smell, touch, hear, think, know, believe, question.. In the room around you, in the empty space, beyond your limited observations, and sensory experiences there are layers of invisible dimensions, and in between every little piece of data in that room is contained observations and realizations far above the level of any human being.

What if outside of your body you weren't even the same? What if there is life outside a body? It's often that those who have NDE(s) often develop intellectual gifts or artistic talents, in what appears to be a freak incident. Forget the term of these individuals. Supposedly you only use little of your brain...
Is it possible that you can some how continue to exist in energy once the body stops?

[GuruGuru214]

You get one thread for your musings now, doodo. Any new ones will be merged into this one. I'll rename it accordingly as soon as I figure out how.

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by doodo!

I'm going to experiment on the brain waves of my dogs. Yes, they will be my experiments.

YES YES!!! it's working, my dog Jasper is a good subject to the experiments!

Your experimenting on a dog? Its not hurting the dog or anything right?

[doodo!]

Originally Posted by coolsome

Your experimenting on a dog? Its not hurting the dog or anything right?

The dog is a willing subject.

[Irishmile]

What exactly are you doing to a dog?

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by Irishmile

What exactly are you doing to a dog?

Your a mod 2 now!?

[Irishmile]

Yeah... they needed more because the boards are growing pretty fast....

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by Irishmile

Yeah... they needed more because the boards are growing pretty fast....

Congratulations

[DAISHI]

To illustrate how perception may be wrong, especially concerning the 3rd dimension. Current theoretical postulates have put forth the idea that the third dimension we perceive as depth is an illusion created from a 2 dimensional existence that essentially bends. While we operate in three dimensions because that's how we perceive it, it may not be fundamentally correct to think of existence as being such.

[doodo!]

Originally Posted by Irishmile

What exactly are you doing to a dog?

Simple, harmless, brain wave entertainment fun.

Originally Posted by DAISHI

To illustrate how perception may be wrong, especially concerning the 3rd dimension. Current theoretical postulates have put forth the idea that the third dimension we perceive as depth is an illusion created from a 2 dimensional existence that essentially bends. While we operate in three dimensions because that's how we perceive it, it may not be fundamentally correct to think of existence as being such.

How is it that you know so much?

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by doodo!

Simple, harmless, brain wave entertainment fun.

That just raises further questions!

[Irishmile]

How do you know you are effecting the dog? What if you are just thinking how you think a dog would think?

Also... how do you know the dog is a willing participant?

AND if successful aren't you afraid you will take a liking to chasing cars?