Telltale Games

Armakuni · 03/17/2007, 08:14 pm

Since Telltale started making Sam & Max, I've become worried about the Bone series.. of course I prefer Sam & Max but as I've already bought Bone I would hate for that series to be cancelled as it would render my game useless. This is my biggest complaint when it comes to episodic gaming, the uncertainty that you will get the entire story finished.. just look at the Sin episodes, they were cancelled (after the first episode too!).

Anyway, could anyone from Telltale inform me if it's pretty much guaranteed that you will finish the Bone series someday or is there a chance it will be cancelled?

Certifiable · 03/17/2007, 09:34 pm

Considering that each game is roughly one of Smith's books, and that there's twelve of them at least - I doubt they're going to just up and quit before the end.

Udvarnoky · 03/18/2007, 07:58 am

They've said many times that they would continue the series.

Armakuni · 03/18/2007, 08:27 am

Have they said it's 100% sure they'll do that or do they use vague language and such? It seems to me they've sort of dropped the ball on that series.

Udvarnoky · 03/18/2007, 09:04 am

Vague? I can't prove that the game is in development, and we don't know it will be anytime soon, but they have said on several occasions that they have every intention of continuing the series. They probably wouldn't put "Bone 3 - coming soon" on the front page if that weren't true. I can recall at least two interviews where Dan Connors said they would continue Bone after they were done Sam & Max (though not necessarily immediately). Emily has confirmed on this forum at some point that they're not abandoning the license.

Are they flat-out lying? Maybe!

Mel · 03/18/2007, 09:13 am

Dave Grossman is the lead designer for both games* and he's been a tad busy of late.

Also, Heather Logas has been a little busy as well.

*I believe this is correct.

**Jake** · 03/18/2007, 09:56 am

For the record, there are nine Bone books, not twelve*... and I doubt that we'd adapt them all as single games, as some of the books would really boil down to one or two long cutscenes with slivers of game in there, so they'd be best served by being combined in with a more gameplay-rich book.

As far as actual new Bone games, you'll hear more someday. Everyone at TTG likes making Bone games, but we're a tiny company (there are only so many ways you can split 25 people) and we're in the middle of other things right now.

* I think so at least...

Erwin · 03/18/2007, 12:32 pm

I think so? I think so? Don't tell you haven't read the excellent books yet!

--Erwin

Ooze33 · 03/18/2007, 01:02 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake

For the record, there are nine Bone books, not twelve*... and I doubt that we'd adapt them all as single games, as some of the books would really boil down to one or two long cutscenes with slivers of game in there, so they'd be best served by being combined in with a more gameplay-rich book.

As far as actual new Bone games, you'll hear more someday. Everyone at TTG likes making Bone games, but we're a tiny company (there are only so many ways you can split 25 people) and we're in the middle of other things right now.

* I think so at least...

Yes, there are 9 books in the Bone comic series:

1.Out From Boneville
2.The Great Cow Race
3.Eyes of the Storm
4.The Dragonslayer
5.Rock Jaw: Master of the Eastern Border
6.Old Man's Cave*
7.Ghost Circles
8.Tresure Hunters
9.Crown of Horns

*This is the book where things start getting more intense!

Mack Daddy · 03/18/2007, 03:02 pm

You could also buy the books and read them if you're interested in the story...

They're great!

Armakuni · 03/18/2007, 03:06 pm

I might just do that but if they're going to release more Bone games I'd rather play those first so the story won't be spoiled for me.

**Jake** · 03/18/2007, 05:01 pm

I have read the books, I was just second guessing myself as far as how many chapters there were as I was writing the post.

Kord · 03/19/2007, 08:41 am

How can anybody say that the first two games are "useless" because there are no sequels (yet)?
I adequately enjoyed both games as games in their own right, and if there is a sequel, that would be great (especially considering the expierience the TTG people have gained with the S&M games), but, even if there aren't, let's not diminish the games. They are cool enough just for being the games they are...

Armakuni · 03/19/2007, 10:36 am

Of course they're useless if the story stops almost before it even begins! At least that's what I think.

erty906 · 03/20/2007, 01:40 am

Quote:

there are nine Bone books, not twelve*

I dunno why, but in french there's twelve books...

numble · 03/21/2007, 07:06 pm

I still have hope that Episode 3 is coming, but doesn't look like it will be coming too soon:

From Mojo's trip to Telltale HQ:

http://www.mixnmojo.com/features/rea...gdc2007&page=1

Quote:

I then asked Emily about Bone, and she said that no, it wasn’t getting made at the moment, but everyone at Telltale would really love to do it. “We were talking about that at lunch, actually. We wish we were working on Bone.” She looked really glum as she said this, so I said: “oh, never mind, it’s best not to spread yourself too thin anyway.” I think that there are actually darker reasons for Bone Episode Three not being made, something about licensing, but I couldn’t find anything else about that, as it’s one of those touchy legal subjects. Speaking of which, I made an ill-calculated joke about “market place realities” that got an awkward silence. Whoops!

My suspicion is that they're working on something else (The CSI and S&M teams are just about wrapping up major production right? So something else must be in the works for them to be too busy for Bone?) and they don't want to restart the Bone franchise until they can do it "right," with a properly sequenced episodic schedule.

Armakuni · 03/22/2007, 02:52 pm

Yeah.. working on episodic games sounds stressful as hell to me! But since they started the Bone series I really think they should continue and finish it within too long.. but I like the Sam & Max games better though. However, I think it should be a principle that once you start a series and people buy parts of it, you should keep working on it until it's done.
I don't really care that much personally though as I really enjoy the Sam & Max games

marsan · 03/24/2007, 12:05 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by laffer

Yeah.. working on episodic games sounds stressful as hell to me!

Yep. Personally, I am pretty impressed they are able to keep it up and still deliver products that are(practically) bug free. I mean, certain people have issues, but there are no issues that affects a grand amount of customers for example. Also, seeing the staff coming on this forum on a saturday, and also seeing them spending extra time on replying posts and such. It really shows these people like what they are doing, and are a dedicated group of people. With Telltale games, I get a chance to know whos behind the games, which really makes it more tempting to buy and support these people who always give 100% to make our day a little bit brighter and a little more problem free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by laffer

But since they started the Bone series I really think they should continue and finish it within too long.. but I like the Sam & Max games better though. However, I think it should be a principle that once you start a series and people buy parts of it, you should keep working on it until it's done.
I don't really care that much personally though as I really enjoy the Sam & Max games

True, always nice to finish a series. But sometimes legal issues can pop up just like that, and one can't really ever full protect oneself from it happening.

I hope they will continue developing other stuff as well, though, and not focus too much on sam & max. It can be dangerous if the "only" games they focus mainly on developing are Sam & Max based games. Suddenly the fan base decides they are sick of sam & max or something else unexpected happens, and suddenly a main source of income is gone.

Fred N · 03/28/2007, 02:29 am

Let's hope Sam & Max won't become for TellTale what Star Wars is for LucasArts

Diduz · 04/02/2007, 02:07 pm

I don't like what I'm hearing about this subject lately. Telltale has talked about a possible Season Two and maybe even original stuff (which I long for, don't take me wrong), but... no Bone in the works. Why? Season One is almost over, CSI Hard Evidence almost wrapped up, so... why the delay? I'm worried.

03/17/2007, 08:14 pm	#1
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	Future of Bone? Since Telltale started making Sam & Max, I've become worried about the Bone series.. of course I prefer Sam & Max but as I've already bought Bone I would hate for that series to be cancelled as it would render my game useless. This is my biggest complaint when it comes to episodic gaming, the uncertainty that you will get the entire story finished.. just look at the Sin episodes, they were cancelled (after the first episode too!). Anyway, could anyone from Telltale inform me if it's pretty much guaranteed that you will finish the Bone series someday or is there a chance it will be cancelled?

03/18/2007, 09:13 am	#6
Mel Rowr! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 834	Dave Grossman is the lead designer for both games* and he's been a tad busy of late. Also, Heather Logas has been a little busy as well. I believe this is correct. __________________ “I do not at all understand the mystery of grace - only that it meets us where we are but does not leave us where it found us.” - Ann Lamott http://hikergirl.tumblr.com* Last edited by Mel; 03/18/2007 at 09:27 am.

03/18/2007, 03:02 pm	#10
Mack Daddy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 156	You could also buy the books and read them if you're interested in the story... They're great! __________________ "..conscious thought will fail you not.."

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03/17/2007, 09:34 pm	#2
Certifiable Predictably Unpredictable Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Considering that each game is roughly one of Smith's books, and that there's twelve of them at least - I doubt they're going to just up and quit before the end.

03/18/2007, 07:58 am	#3
Udvarnoky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 855	They've said many times that they would continue the series.

03/18/2007, 08:27 am	#4
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	Have they said it's 100% sure they'll do that or do they use vague language and such? It seems to me they've sort of dropped the ball on that series.

03/18/2007, 09:04 am	#5
Udvarnoky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 855	Vague? I can't prove that the game is in development, and we don't know it will be anytime soon, but they have said on several occasions that they have every intention of continuing the series. They probably wouldn't put "Bone 3 - coming soon" on the front page if that weren't true. I can recall at least two interviews where Dan Connors said they would continue Bone after they were done Sam & Max (though not necessarily immediately). Emily has confirmed on this forum at some point that they're not abandoning the license. Are they flat-out lying? Maybe!

03/18/2007, 09:56 am	#7
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	For the record, there are nine Bone books, not twelve... and I doubt that we'd adapt them all as single games, as some of the books would really boil down to one or two long cutscenes with slivers of game in there, so they'd be best served by being combined in with a more gameplay-rich book. As far as actual new Bone games, you'll hear more someday. Everyone at TTG likes making Bone games, but we're a tiny company (there are only so many ways you can split 25 people) and we're in the middle of other things right now. I think so at least...

03/18/2007, 12:32 pm	#8
Erwin Probably hiding a cow. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands Posts: 378	I think so? I think so? Don't tell you haven't read the excellent books yet! --Erwin

03/18/2007, 03:06 pm	#11
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	I might just do that but if they're going to release more Bone games I'd rather play those first so the story won't be spoiled for me.

03/18/2007, 05:01 pm	#12
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	I have read the books, I was just second guessing myself as far as how many chapters there were as I was writing the post.

03/19/2007, 08:41 am	#13
Kord Oxymoron Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rheine, Germany Posts: 34	How can anybody say that the first two games are "useless" because there are no sequels (yet)? I adequately enjoyed both games as games in their own right, and if there is a sequel, that would be great (especially considering the expierience the TTG people have gained with the S&M games), but, even if there aren't, let's not diminish the games. They are cool enough just for being the games they are...

03/19/2007, 10:36 am	#14
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	Of course they're useless if the story stops almost before it even begins! At least that's what I think.

03/22/2007, 02:52 pm	#17
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	Yeah.. working on episodic games sounds stressful as hell to me! But since they started the Bone series I really think they should continue and finish it within too long.. but I like the Sam & Max games better though. However, I think it should be a principle that once you start a series and people buy parts of it, you should keep working on it until it's done. I don't really care that much personally though as I really enjoy the Sam & Max games

03/28/2007, 02:29 am	#19
Fred N Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4	Let's hope Sam & Max won't become for TellTale what Star Wars is for LucasArts

04/02/2007, 02:07 pm	#20
Diduz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 321	I don't like what I'm hearing about this subject lately. Telltale has talked about a possible Season Two and maybe even original stuff (which I long for, don't take me wrong), but... no Bone in the works. Why? Season One is almost over, CSI Hard Evidence almost wrapped up, so... why the delay? I'm worried.