The Original 15 Nublar Embryos

[AndyCullen]

I have a hunch that Troodon may not be on InGen's list, much like the Spino. Maybe they were experimenting with them elsewhere, like in the other Lab shown in this picture http://media1.gameinformer.com/image...abExterior.jpg (check the file name)

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by jmine83

Apparently according to the lore of JP, Compies were discovered to have a natural tendency for eating the droppings of the other dinosaurs and thus helping to manage the cleanliness of the dinosaur paddocks. Sounds critically important to me.

Yes this was present in the novel as well. That presents a problem, but then again, jurassic park is notorious for underplanning aren't they.

[Cyberscribe]

http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?l...dinoprof.shtml

Is JPLegacy a reliable site according to most of the jp community? Because if so it does back up the Nublar Pteranodon/Aviary theory to some extent. Any way this is a more or less complete list of the dinosaurs on both islands.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?l...dinoprof.shtml

Is JPLegacy a reliable site according to most of the jp community? Because if so it does back up the Nublar Pteranodon/Aviary theory to some extent. Any way this is a more or less complete list of the dinosaurs on both islands.

JPLegacy is a very reliable site. It's the main fan created site for anything and everything Jurassic Park. The staff does a fantastic job ensuring that everything is accurate to the best of their knowledge.

[trocks]

We know the game is following the rules established by the movie. We also know that the game will be considered canon, so the list really cannot be changed. I believe that Pteranodon was at least intended to be on Nublar, based on the "coming attractions" slide show, but it may not have been there yet, or perhaps the plan was shut down.

As for Troodon, my best guess is that it stowed away from Site B on a ship running between Sorna and Nublar.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by trocks

We know the game is following the rules established by the movie. We also know that the game will be considered canon, so the list really cannot be changed.

What do you mean by that? I mean the list isn't being changed it's being filled in. If we haven't seen living viable proof of 15 dinosaurs than whoever's in charge of expanding the universe would be at liberty to fill in the remaining mystery dinosaurs.

[trocks]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

What do you mean by that? I mean the list isn't being changed it's being filled in. If we haven't seen living viable proof of 15 dinosaurs than whoever's in charge of expanding the universe would be at liberty to fill in the remaining mystery dinosaurs.

I absolutely agree with you. I know we are not talking about removing anything. I'm just saying that the existing list was established and nothing SHOULD be removed, BUT it would be great to see it filled in or expanded. I've seen comments in the past where people have suggested using something from the book instead, but we have to remember this is strictly movie canon.

[SpielbergFan]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

As for the Brocures, you can see them in the main road scene when Grant is looking for something to distract the Rex from attacking the car Tim and Lex are in

I never noticed that in the movie.

http://www.jplegacy.org/encyc/maps/jptourmap.jpg

[trocks]

Originally Posted by SpielbergFan

I never noticed that in the movie.

All the basic information you will need for your visit to Jurassic Park!

http://www.jplegacy.org/downloads/mi...opbrochure.pdf

[SpielbergFan]

Originally Posted by trocks

All the basic information you will need for your visit to Jurassic Park!

http://www.jplegacy.org/downloads/mi...opbrochure.pdf

Wow, thank you! TellTale HAS to see that!

[BLACK_HAWK94]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

So excluding the Troodon, which is an unknown species on the island (hopefully it's creation is explained, as it is a little hard to believe that someone would miss a creature like that being cloned) that leaves us with two other species to work with, since we're not going off of the novel.

Now who to say the Troodons a new species? They simply said one not scene before... and the majority of the dinosaurs on the species list are unseen.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by BLACK_HAWK94

Now who to say the Troodons a new species? They simply said one not scene before... and the majority of the dinosaurs on the species list are unseen.

Exactly. That's why we can't count them out of the list just yet until it's been been CONFIRMED that they are an unnatural occurrence on the island.

[BLACK_HAWK94]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

Exactly. That's why we can't count them out of the list just yet until it's been been CONFIRMED that they are an unnatural occurrence on the island.

My theory is this... the troodons are a known species to InGen, and have been eating toxic plant's throughout the environment (may not be so IDK if they're omnivourous) and like the poisen dart frog (amphibian DNA) have developed a venom from the plants.

NOTE: Poisen Dart Frogs are harmless if denied the plant they eat that makes them toxic.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by jmine83

As for Compsognathus, for anyone who has been to the JP Ride in Hollywood, pay close attention to the video presentation that you watch while you're waiting in line. It's been a long time since I've been when the ride was brand new, "but" one of the big, unique little bits of commentary that the video presentation went into that caught my attention, was of the "vital" importance that Compies serve in the park; i.e. as the dung beetles of the dinosaur world. Apparently according to the lore of JP, Compies were discovered to have a natural tendency for eating the droppings of the other dinosaurs and thus helping to manage the cleanliness of the dinosaur paddocks. Sounds critically important to me.

Well, since we are going off movie canon, Compsognathus had no mention of having that role in the park whatsoever in the films. In fact, this "privelege" if you want to call it that went to Procompsognathus in the novels and is a totally different species and more closely related to Segisaurus than any other dinosaur in this series including Compsognathus. So for integrity's sake, I think that Segisaurus should replace any speculative views of having Compys on Nublar. Segisaurus might have even replaced the Procomp's role of eating the sauropod waste in the films. Thereby saving room for Troodon to be entered on the list if necessary.

[Cyberscribe]

Original 15?:
1.Tyrannosaurus*
2. Velociraptor*
3. Dilophosaurus*
4. Brachiosaurus
5. Parasaurolophus*
6. Triceratops*
7. Gallimimus
8. Stegosaurus
9. Metriacanthosaurus
10. Proceratosaurus
11. Herrerasaurus*
12. Segisaurus
13. Baryonyx
14. Compsognathus*
15. Mosasaurus*/Pteranodon*

Secret Dino: Troodon*, Mosasaurus*/Pteranodon?*

*= Confirmed as being in JP the game

I'm guessing either Mosasaurus or Pteranodon are not included in the original 15 just like Troodon.

[hiplobonoxa]

up until now, only thirteen genera have ever been confirmed to be on isla nublar on film, either through being seen on screen, on the embryo tubes, or on the park map in the brochure. the sequels, however, added several more genera, both through direct and indirect evidence.

it recently occurred to me, and correct me if i'm wrong, that the only mention of there being only fifteen species on the island (in the film, anyway) came from dodgson in his conversation with nedry in san jose. that being said, i would suspect, being from biosyn, that dodgson may have had limited knowledge of what ingen was working on, because it's quite obvious that they had upward of twenty species between what was seen on nublar, what was seen on sorna, and what was indirectly referenced on screen. this may be another loophole that both the filmmakers and telltale could exploit to increase the number of genera without contradiction. nedry, as a known mole and the developer of the park's systems, would at least be familiar with the animals in the park, but may have known about others. of course, dodgson may have had other moles, but, either way, between nedry and whoever else may have been feeding biosyn info, the combined list had been maxed out at fifteen by the time nedry stole the embryos. that being said, nedry may have encountered embryos in cold storage that neither he nor anyone else in contact with biosyn may have known about prior to the theft. just some food for thought...

[sniperwar10]

where is Baryonyx?

[Shadowknight1]

One thing that bugs me, both in that brochure and the one TellTale is doing...the brochure either has the car track going the wrong way, or they have the Dilophosaur enclosure on the wrong side of the road. In the movie, Richard Kiley says, "If you look on your right, you'll see one of the first dinosaurs on our tour, called Dilophosaurus." Going by that map, the Dilophosaurs would've been on the LEFT.

[Mystic Terrapin]

@hiplobonoxa: So I don't remember but is it stated that there are only 15 species on the first island? Maybe when Dodgson told Nedry to get all 15, he meant the max amount of slots the Barbasol can could carry. If so, could there be more embryos in storage somewhere else?

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Mystic Terrapin

@hiplobonoxa: So I don't remember but is it stated that there are only 15 species on the first island? Maybe when Dodgson told Nedry to get all 15, he meant the max amount of slots the Barbasol can could carry. If so, could there be more embryos in storage somewhere else?

It's possible. In the video about the troodon quarantine pens it mentions that all of the troodon embryos were stored elsewhere to remove them from the current stock since they felt that the troodon's were not a favorable species to feature at the park.