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Old 04/13/2011, 06:24 pm   #21
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Old 04/13/2011, 06:27 pm   #22
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Ehhh...it's overrated. I, personally, gave up after the first page. I have a strong dislike for pull-down menus.
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Old 04/13/2011, 06:33 pm   #23
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Ehhh...it's overrated. I, personally, gave up after the first page. I have a strong dislike for pull-down menus.
I couldn't agree with you more.

I made it to page three and openly wondered how long the survey actually was. An overwhelming sense of determination and desire to learn led me to brave through the seven or so pages of questions.

Do I regret this? No, I believe that this pursuit of knowledge has made me stronger as an individual.

What should you take away from this explanation? Little, besides the fact that I am a very dedicated and determined person.
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Old 04/13/2011, 06:47 pm   #24
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I couldn't agree with you more.

I made it to page three and openly wondered how long the survey actually was. An overwhelming sense of determination and desire to learn led me to brave through the seven or so pages of questions.

Do I regret this? No, I believe that this pursuit of knowledge has made me stronger as an individual.

What should you take away from this explanation? Little, besides the fact that I am a very dedicated and determined person.
I applaud your bravery, good sir. And dedication. That too.
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Old 04/13/2011, 07:03 pm   #25
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I have to say the survey is pretty decent, but some questions are really loaded:

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* 52. Parents should be allowed to shove their religion down their children's throats

Just wondering why you used that wording and not something more survey neutral like:

Parents have a right to control their children's religious studies.
Perhaps I could have worded that better...
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Granted, people can google this stuff, but unless you're a major in poli-sci you're not going to understand it all.
I understood it all and I'm still in high school.
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Old 04/13/2011, 07:07 pm   #27
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I have to say the survey is pretty decent, but some questions are really loaded:

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* 52. Parents should be allowed to shove their religion down their children's throats

Just wondering why you used that wording and not something more survey neutral like:

Parents have a right to control their children's religious studies.
No they don't. This is how theocracies perpetuate themselves: indoctrination of those most vulnerable.
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Old 04/13/2011, 07:15 pm   #28
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I read all your points. But I just got off work and it's pretty late, so I can't really reply to all of your points at this time. Well I physically could, but I'm mentally exhausted right now.
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Old 04/13/2011, 08:18 pm   #29
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I understood it all and I'm still in high school.
And you're probably either studying this now, or recently studied it. But most people don't retain this kind of stuff unless they're really interested in politics. Remember, we had someone running for Vice President who wasn't sure what Vice President does not too long ago. Expecting everyone to know all of those terms is giving people too much credit.
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No they don't. This is how theocracies perpetuate themselves: indoctrination of those most vulnerable.
It was a suggestion of how to phrase the statement. Then people taking the survey could have picked if they agreed with it or not. You would know that if you had bothered to take it :P
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Taking survey now. How many people went for "military junta" as their favourite type of government. Honestly

Edit: Hadn't read the other posts on this thread yet, but just have, and just got to the "parents should be allowed to shove their religions down their children's throats" bit. I don't think that question's especially problematic. The fact that the writer's beliefs are so clear makes it easier to think straight, because there is no subtle manipulation going on. Despite being anti-religious, I was more than able to put down agree for that one.

When do we get to hear the results?
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Old 04/14/2011, 03:26 am   #32
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The truth is, the US is a Democratic Republic. The word 'republic' is quite ill-defined, and could mean a government which is controlled by many or all of its citizens, or just a country that is not lead by a monarch. Because the US elects leaders to represent portions of its population in government, it is still a democracy, even if it is a in-direct democracy. I found this survey to be mostly well made, but it did contain a few rhetorical questions. such as the question on children and religion.

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Nope, I had a civics class last year, but that's about all I've studied on politics. But I'm very active on a lot of political discussion forums.
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Taking survey now. How many people went for "military junta" as their favourite type of government. Honestly

Edit: Hadn't read the other posts on this thread yet, but just have, and just got to the "parents should be allowed to shove their religions down their children's throats" bit. I don't think that question's especially problematic. The fact that the writer's beliefs are so clear makes it easier to think straight, because there is no subtle manipulation going on. Despite being anti-religious, I was more than able to put down agree for that one.

When do we get to hear the results?
I'll be sure to upload the results in a few weeks. Once we have more people taking it.
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If you're going to do a statistical analysis, I'd advise giving figures using "neutral" as a vote in the centre, and figures using "neutral" as a decline of vote. For some of the American ones, I clicked neutral because I didn't have a clue what the question meant, while others might have voted neutral because they agree in part and disagree in part.

(or alternatively, I'd be more than happy to whack out an analysis for you )
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