Episode 4 is dark

[IndigoHawk]

Anyone else think this episode was pretty dark?

Trixie didn't deserve what happened to her, and the episode focuses on destroying Edna's life. The argument at the end at the courthouse was dark, too. Apart from the bit with Jennifer at the beginning, this was a disturbing episode! It was well done, but I'm glad that it sets up the final episode with the idea that maybe there's a better solution.

[BlankCanvasDJ]

It kinda felt like the fourth chapter of Tales, in that way. Taking familiar characters in a whole new, darker but completely logical direction.

[NameOfUser]

And here I was thinking they couldn't top episode 3.

[PsychoRaven]

Yea it really was dark. Having played it twice now I'm very conflicted about this episode. On one hand I of course feel for Marty but on the other I do feel for First Citizen brown and Edna. That's the one thing that I really do think Telltale did so good. The movies showed you the alternate realities but they never showed you how your actions affected those people in that reality.

[RAnthonyMahan]

Don't forget poor Doc getting the Clockwork Orange treatment at the beginning.

[MusicallyInspired]

Bring it on. The story is getting fantastic. I like the conflict. I like the alternate directions. Yet, it still feels very BTTF in style and execution.

[big-augen]

I tried to lie to Doc when he asked about how Edna will end up in the future... But I felt so sorry for her when Marty told him the truth... Old Cat Lady... Poor Edna... But... She is evil!

[Kyronea]

Originally Posted by RAnthonyMahan

Don't forget poor Doc getting the Clockwork Orange treatment at the beginning.

I actually found that a little hard to take seriously, mostly due to certain sound effects reused from other games that I associated so much with things in those games that to hear them in this context made the situation a little...sillier.

But yes overall this episode was definitely darker in its own way, and I was seriously afraid that near the end Emmett was going to actually plunge to his death rather than get caught on the statue.

[Bloody Eugene]

I liked that the game took deep and think emotive decisions.
I like games that have emotive resonance - there aren't many out there.

[daeva0123]

Yeah, it was genuinely sad when FCB asked Marty how Edna was in the future and then seeing her heartbroke walking on the road, I never thought I'd ever feel sorry for her after episode 3. Good Work TellTale.

Did anyone else get the image of FCB opening the Delorean and Billy Ocean's "Get out of my Dreams (and into my car)" blasting away ( yeah, I know it was released 1988 but still ).

[KaiRubix]

I just found that last scene with Edna and FCB a little creepy...a 17 year old girl walking down a dark road and a 60+ man drives up to her and offers her a lift. O_O

[Molokov]

It was 1931 - completely innocent in those days!

[corruptbiggins]

It's good to get a darker feeling episode, reminds me of the Hell Valley bit of Part 2 but in a lighter setting. Good juxtaposition, I feel.

[Julianne]

Originally Posted by KaiRubix

I just found that last scene with Edna and FCB a little creepy...a 17 year old girl walking down a dark road and a 60+ man drives up to her and offers her a lift. O_O

It was 1931: When doors were unlocked and strangers had the best candy!

[doggans]

Considering she's an employed journalist and head of the Stay Sober Society, I'm pretty sure Edna's older than seventeen. So the REAL creepiness is her relationship with Emmett!

[nobodygaming]

I certainly did feel like a dick when telling Doc that Edna would end up alone with cats, and refusing to fix the timeline so she could stay with him. It really gave me the feeling that I got with later Doctor Who episodes when you realise he is a selfish tyrant who destroys the lives of entire civilisations just for his personal gain

[feverfew]

Originally Posted by IndigoHawk

Anyone else think this episode was pretty dark?

Trixie didn't deserve what happened to her

Seconded.

And I never thought I could feel sorry for Edna, but seeing her crying in the end did just that.
Sometimes, we cannot choose the way we are going...

[Gman5852]

I thought of it like this.
Both futures she ended up as a person no one likes.
In one she is a crazy cat lady, and another she is a dictator.
What makes people think that she can turn out ok in some form or way.
She has been given two timelines, and she screwed up both(yes its her fault, one she decided to be alone and bought cats, and the other she abused her husbands genius to dictate a city) most people only get 1 timeline.

[feverfew]

It' because her main flaw was always there: she just couldn't accept that her rules are not meant for everyone. If someone, somehow loosened her up a bit in her youth, she might turn out to be someone nicer.

[daeva0123]

Yeah I felt bad when Marty and FCB had the argument, it does make you feel the rift between them and the dilemma they're in. I dont think either are completely right or wrong either;

Marty wants what he feels is the 'Right' timeline but has had to toy with people and manipulate them in order to set things back in motion, he doesn't like doing it and most times particularly when speaking to Young Emmett he really hates doing it. But if he doesn't he dooms everyone he cares for to be brainwashed by the citizen plus program or because of the undoing of everything in 1955 Marty's parents are reduced to their coward/drunkard personalities and Biff is still roaming round being a dick to everyone. He's also abandoned his parents and Jennifer when going back to 1931 based on the trust of FCB that all would be undone once they went back.

FCB on the other hand also genuinely feels his existence should still count, after all hes lived 70+ years with someone he loved, despite the disaster it caused in the future he can hardly be blamed for wanting to hold on to it or change it for the better despite its flaws. From his perspective 'Martin' is just as bad as Edna, wanting to 'Override' his personality for his own gain. Also he cares more for the fate of Edna, which he now learnt from Marty lives an extremely lonely life, and doesn't see why someone should be doomed to misery if it can be helped. Not to mention his alternative self lived a similar, isolated life until Marty befriends him and timetravels and meets Clara.

Could go one but, yeah - great work storywise on this one Telltale, just get rid of that damn 'Temporal Duplicate' bug by the car of the futures tent . I really cant wait for OUTATIME