marine reptiles?

[SWGNATE]

Originally Posted by Isla-Nublar-Crew

Well, it´s an interesting discussion, but I have seen "koronosaurus queenslandicus" here couple of times. This is wrong, because this species of this marine reptile is called Kronosaurus queenslandicus.

And how to get a DNA of marine reptile in Jurassic Park universe?

Some of marine species were depended to land - they had to leave theit eggs there, or they just have been resting there. But this is not Mosasaur´s case - this species probably didn´t have the ability to move on dry land. BUT!
1. What if the specimen of Mosasaur was beached on a dry land? Events of this type were really extremely probable. Just look at beached whales of today. Now we just need a mosquito to preserve reptile´s DNA in it´s amber coffin. That´s not a problem in JP universe.
2. Scientists also have found specimens of mesozoic marine insect prehistoric amber. I guess, some of marine insect species could partially parasiticaly feed on marine reptiles. Well, this is rather optimistic view, don´t you think? :-)

. Yea but they did need to come up for air but the marine parasite thing is new to me. And I mean ginsu shark mummies have been found so a mosasaur is always a possibility. Thanks for the info btw

[jurassiraptor]

Originally Posted by Isla-Nublar-Crew

And how to get a DNA of marine reptile in Jurassic Park universe?

Probably they got the DNA from the marine reptile bones themselves, rather than going the insect-in-amber route. Though not as innovative as the amber method, this was mentioned briefly in the movie and touched on a few times in the novel.

In real life, some research suggests that it is possible for (very fragmentary) traces of DNA, blood vessels and soft tissue to survive fossilization and millions of years, under very certain conditions.

[SWGNATE]

Originally Posted by jurassiraptor

Probably they got the DNA from the marine reptile bones themselves, rather than going the insect-in-amber route. Though not as innovative as the amber method, this was mentioned briefly in the movie and touched on a few times in the novel.

In real life, some research suggests that it is possible for (very fragmentary) traces of DNA, blood vessels and soft tissue to survive fossilization and millions of years, under very certain conditions.

exactly, like i said the people at the british meuseum of natural history in london found bone marrow on their marine reptiles. and i honestly think these should be examined for remaining soft tissues, id say your right JR

[MasCot]

Originally Posted by SWGNATE

exactly, like i said the people at the british meuseum of natural history in london found bone marrow on their marine reptiles. and i honestly think these should be examined for remaining soft tissues, id say your right JR

Moreover, we see whales and dolphins dying washed ashore. Mosquitos can attack them there I guess.

[TorQue]

They could get the DNA from a specimen trapped in a glacier.
Or they could just extract it from their bones like @jurassiraptor and fill the eventual missing gaps with DNA from other animals.
They did find a way to clone extinct plants which are very degradable (although they haven't explained that in the movies or books if i recall,but of course they didn't get the DNA from mosquitoes ) ),but i hope they will comment on that in the game.

[Isla-Nublar-Crew]

Specimen of a marine reptile from a glacier? Well, this is really nice, but extremely improbable. Scientists really have so far found several carcasses of primitive mammalian megafauna - especially mammoths or prehistoric bisons. And even these are very rare. Finding a frozen specimen of dinosaur or marine reptile in a glacier? I don´t think so. By the way - it´s like a plot from some very bad B-grade movie (DinoShark, Wyvern, Megashark vs Giant Octopus)...

[TorQue]

Originally Posted by Isla-Nublar-Crew

Specimen of a marine reptile from a glacier? Well, this is really nice, but extremely improbable. Scientists really have so far found several carcasses of primitive mammalian megafauna - especially mammoths or prehistoric bisons. And even these are very rare. Finding a frozen specimen of dinosaur or marine reptile in a glacier? I don´t think so. By the way - it´s like a plot from some very bad B-grade movie (DinoShark, Wyvern, Megashark vs Giant Octopus)...

And finding a prehistoric mosquito (with blood from dinosaurs) inside amber isn't?

[Isla-Nublar-Crew]

Originally Posted by TorQue

And finding a prehistoric mosquito (with blood from dinosaurs) inside amber isn't?

Actually finding mesozoic marine reptile in a glacier is just ridiculous, but finding a mosquito with DNA of dinosaur in it is technically much more probable - at least in Jurassic park movie/novel universe. Because, as we know DNA degrades by the time, and could last for only tens of thousands years (but not apparently in JP universe). Finds of primitive insects trapped in prehistoric amber are actually quite common. And even mosquitos have been found in amber. You should purchase magnificent book called The quest for life in amber by Hendrik Poinar and his wife Roberta - it´s really well-written and informative...

[TorQue]

Originally Posted by Isla-Nublar-Crew

Actually finding mesozoic marine reptile in a glacier is just ridiculous, but finding a mosquito with DNA of dinosaur in it is technically much more probable - at least in Jurassic park movie/novel universe. Because, as we know DNA degrades by the time, and could last for only tens of thousands years (but not apparently in JP universe). Finds of primitive insects trapped in prehistoric amber are actually quite common. And even mosquitos have been found in amber. You should purchase magnificent book called The quest for life in amber by Hendrik Poinar and his wife Roberta - it´s really well-written and informative...

Yeah dude i know they already found mosquitoes in amber,but they never found mosquitoes with dinosaur DNA.
But they also found animals trapped in glaciers (even a woolly mammoth) as well as mummified animals ,so the chances of finding a mosquito with blood that contains dinosaur DNA are as big as finding a frozen dinosaur.
Both explanations are very unlikely,but that is not the point,the point i was trying to make is that if they want to they can give any explanation that is not IMPOSSIBLE even though it could be improbable.

[Sinaz20]

Some large air-breathing marine animals will bask out of water... where a mosquito could get to them. It's more plausible than chlorophyll-sucking mosquitoes :P.

In the game, we talk a bit about why and how the Mosasaurus and the marine facility came to be.

[AndyCullen]

Well I supposed seeds and plant matter could get trapped in amber as well...

[Cyberscribe]

Just to make sure everyone knows this the mosasaur is not mosasaurus, it's tylosaurus.

[Sinaz20]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

Just to make sure everyone knows this the mosasaur is not mosasaurus, it's tylosaurus.

A Tylosaurus is a Mosasaurus.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Sinaz20

A Tylosaurus is a Mosasaurus.

No, a tylosaurus is a mosasaur. That's like saying a Tiger is a Lion. No, they're both big cats. They're both mosasaurs.
Mosasaur = family
Mosasaurus = genus

[Sinaz20]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

No, a tylosaurus is a mosasaur. That's like saying a Tiger is a Lion. No, they're both big cats. They're both mosasaurs.
Mosasaur = family
Mosasaurus = genus

I'll be.

I been schooled.

I was also confused because a fricken' paleontologist told me that the -saur vs. -saurus ending was just a sort of "easier to say" distinction, but was otherwise identical. He was probably going easy on my layman brain.

Thanks.

[Insane Guy of Doom]

One question about the mosasaur, when they first arrive at the Marine Facility Gerry tells Jess that there's no way InGen could have made a marine reptile, yet when Dr. Sorkin announces she's going to free the mosasaur no one is surprised that there is indeed one, nor do they wonder how it got there. Even the journal entry doesn't say anything more than "I was told that they have a viable specimen (!)".

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Sinaz20

I'll be.

I been schooled.

I was also confused because a fricken' paleontologist told me that the -saur vs. -saurus ending was just a sort of "easier to say" distinction, but was otherwise identical. He was probably going easy on my layman brain.

Thanks.

No prob. In the commentary you guys were saying it was a Tylosaurus so I just wanted to be sure.