Old Games you played that nobody else did

[tbm1986]

Originally Posted by ShaggE

^ Ugh, yes. Kudos RL is infuriating because it could have been so amazing. At least it's not as incredibly depressing as the first Kudos. (something about the way it presents life is just unbearable to me)

I think technically if Kudos can (very poorly) emulate The Sims without copyright issues, then another company (Ubisoft?) can take the good ideas out of KRL and make a great game out of it that lives up to the potential the original had.

I've been thinking for a while now about making a music festival game in Game Maker (not the most ideal game engine to use because it's not suited to simulator games but it's cheap) where you act as CFO and band booker (and initially COO until you hold big enough events to warrant hiring someone to do that for you). Most of the year, you see a home screen interface much like KRL and have weekly/monthly magazines to read, get fliers sent in, emails and calls from agents, etc. throughout the year, hire sites, watch gigs, receive bulletins about signings to other festivals and arena tours and negotiate deals with bands and land owners, as well as approach bands personally, do ticket launch, dates, etc and read feedback from fans. Then at the event/s you run, you have a map of the venue that has stuff happening that changes every 15 minutes (3 seconds of playing time) while the bands are on. Popup events occur, eg. band failing to turn up, riots breaking out, a guest band you can talk to backstage, that kind of thing, where you can choose a decision from a list, each having a different outcome, with probabilities of success based on certain variables.

Actually, thinking about it, it can't be terribly hard to remake KRL in Game Maker and implement features that should have been there from the beginning/expanded (it is possible to expand anyway by editting the text strings in the resource files).

[RetroVortex]

Kudos 2 doesn't even WORK on my laptop, so I won't ever know if it ever improved on the original games.

The original games were pretty decent, but very limited.

At least with Game Maker, scripts and DLLs make games pretty flexible.
(Though it still is god aweful at anything 3D related...)

[tbm1986]

Originally Posted by RetroVortex

Kudos 2 doesn't even WORK on my laptop, so I won't ever know if it ever improved on the original games.

The original games were pretty decent, but very limited.

At least with Game Maker, scripts and DLLs make games pretty flexible.
(Though it still is god aweful at anything 3D related...)

Wtf how can it not work? If the game is as mediocre as online reviews and its wiki page suggest, I'm surprised it can't run on W98SE systems with 4MB graphics cards with no GPU. It's basically an oversimplified Sims 1.

I've still to learn how DLLs can be used. I can do simple paths like move enemies and write scripts like a hits_left decrimenting counter for a level boss or portalkeepers.

My main problem that lacks my motivation is I'm rubbish with graphics and sound production. If someone were to collaborate with me on that score, we both had a clear idea for the game and could agree on everything, I'm sure I could produce things.

[tbm1986]

Last night I started work on expanding KRL from my knowledge of music and what I like (not quite interchangeable), using the csv resource files and adding some more sounds. I did do lists of bands, traits and ability-improving lessons but in order to avoid something beginning with 'copy' and ending in 'ment', I had to snapshot the lists as images and sadly, I cannot upload to Photobucket from work.

So I shall do this when I get online at home tonight (British Time) to narrow down the interest to those that will actually enjoy the improvements. I shall provide the csvs and mp3s (the game uses ogg but I'll use mp3s if it will let me) when I'm done but downloaders must have the music featured already in their collection or I'm providing them with fr33 music (which I'm not personally against but I don't want my arse su'd).

How long I take on this project will depend on my free time, bugs I encounter and how long it'll take me to take snippets from my music collection. Get ready to rock!

[tbm1986]

As promised...

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...986/Traits.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...1986/Bands.jpg

I've also decided to change sax for guitar in every way I can, to swap the medium and hard parts in practice/musicianship to fit what else I'm adding (I may even plug my own guitar in for this!). I'm also adding/changing items for sale for things like backdrop, props, etc..

It also turns out that mp3 support is not available in-game, so I'll find a way to chop mp3s and convert them to Ogg Vorbis. Everything else, bar debugging, is pretty simple. The game will be so rich in new material that testing will be a joy rather than a chore!