Raptors only in Episode 1!?

[mannyguy1]

Now in the movie its stated there are 3 raptors on Nublar.

So we know that the first episode takes place during the later events of the movie. Now lets just assume that the first episode ends around the same time as the helicopter is rescuing Grant, Ellie and the other survivors.

So at this point 2 raptors have been killed by the T-rex, while the third is slowly dying in the freezer the kids locked her in.

That means that unless telltale comes up with another weird twist (ie the Troodon) there are NO MORE RAPTORS ROAMING JURASSIC PARK. Therefore none the game characters can encounter....

So I wonder how TellTale is going to handle this in order to keep the contiuity? Will they explain that there were actually more raptors? Did theye forget that there 3 raptors and not address this? Will we not see anymore raptors after episode 1?

[FPug]

It's simple. Remember, the dinosaurs are breeding.

[mannyguy1]

There are so many issues with that you just said. It wouldn't work.

[FPug]

Please explain!

[HumanToast]

Simple, there were originally 8 raptors but when they introduced the big one(the male) it Killed all but two of the others. This was when the raptors had their own pen like the other animals. Once the raptors started breeding,the offspring ran into the jungle. Sometime afterward, the three adult raptors left were placed in the pen seen in the movie.

The eggs seen in the film belong to raptors, note the V shaped footprints. There is a pack remaining on Isla Nublar.

Surprisingly, the three raptors in the film broke out of their Lenin order to chase John Arnold. Arnold would have seen the destroyed cage and ran back to the shelter so after he walked by the raptors they started to escape.

[FPug]

Originally Posted by HumanToast

Simple, there were originally 8 raptors but when they introduced the big one(the male) it Killed all but two of the others. This was when the raptors had their own pen like the other animals. Once the raptors started breeding,the offspring ran into the jungle. Sometime afterward, the three adult raptors left were placed in the pen seen in the movie.

The eggs seen in the film belong to raptors, note the V shaped footprints. There is a pack remaining on Isla Nublar.

Surprisingly, the three raptors in the film broke out of their Lenin order to chase John Arnold. Arnold would have seen the destroyed cage and ran back to the shelter so after he walked by the raptors they started to escape.

My point exactly.

[JPFan]

The dinosaurs reproduced but the Velociraptor has a much smaller area and monitored. The Velociraptor not been fully outside this small area and state very well guarded by human guards. It is impossible not to notice new velociraptors.

In the film also appears only one Dilophosaurus and the game there are 4 or 5 of adult size.

[mannyguy1]

The raptors were kept in a rather small cage/pen. They would have known if they were breeding. Its not like the were roaming free like the gallis/brahio/trikes/ etc. They would have known if they were breeding specially muldoon who kept an open eye.

If they were breeding, their offspring were probably still babies, otherwise muldoon or someone would have noticed that there are more than 3 large raptors in the pen.

Didn't Muldoon even say that the "Big One" killed the other raptors and only left two. Which heavilty implies that he or someone is clearly keeping track of the raptors in the park.

One of the characters even asks ellee "You sure the 3rd one's contained". She replies "yes...unless they figure out how to open doors"

[mannyguy1]

Originally Posted by HumanToast

Simple, there were originally 8 raptors but when they introduced the big one(the male) it Killed all but two of the others. This was when the raptors had their own pen like the other animals. Once the raptors started breeding,the offspring ran into the jungle. Sometime afterward, the three adult raptors left were placed in the pen seen in the movie.

The eggs seen in the film belong to raptors, note the V shaped footprints. There is a pack remaining on Isla Nublar.

Surprisingly, the three raptors in the film broke out of their Lenin order to chase John Arnold. Arnold would have seen the destroyed cage and ran back to the shelter so after he walked by the raptors they started to escape.

Where does it even say that raptors had their own large open pen originally? and later transferred to the one seen in the movies?

We don't know who the eggs belonged to maybe their TROODON eggs...lol....

[FPug]

Raptors are gonna be in the game anyway so Im not gonna question it. I just know they were breeding, and I'm sticking to that.

[mannyguy1]

Originally Posted by JPFan

The dinosaurs reproduced but the Velociraptor has a much smaller area and monitored. The Velociraptor not been fully outside this small area and state very well guarded by human guards. It is impossible not to notice new velociraptors.

In the film also appears only one Dilophosaurus and the game there are 4 or 5 of adult size.

The dilophosaur thing is really not that hard to understand. Clearly Nedry was lucky enough to only encounter one. I can only assume the stench of Nedry's body later attracted more. Plus the tour guide voice even says "herd" implying that there is more than one dilophosaur in the park.

[mannyguy1]

Originally Posted by FPug

Raptors are gonna be in the game anyway so Im not gonna question it. I just know they were breeding, and I'm sticking to that.

I'm not questioning it per se. I simply wonder how telltale is going to handle this issue. You're assuming the raptors are breeding. Which it is implied that they might be I'm not denying that. BUT THESE DINOS WERE HEAVILY MONITORED in a relatively small pen. The staff would have known about this.

Grant would have freaked out if he knew the nest he encountered belonged to raptors. He clearly didn't suspect this.

[FPug]

Originally Posted by mannyguy1

I'm not questioning it per se. I simply wonder how telltale is going to handle this issue. You're assuming the raptors are breeding. Which it is implied that they might be I'm not denying that. BUT THESE DINOS WERE HEAVILY MONITORED in a relatively small pen. The staff would have known about this.

Grant would have freaked out if he knew the nest he encountered belonged to raptors. He clearly didn't suspect this.

Now that you mention it, I don't know if all the raptors were really in that small pen. I think it was just The Big One and her three accomplices. Because Doctor Grant held a baby raptor, I know it's still a baby by now, but how do we know they didn't just put the other raptors in the regular paddock instead of the holding pen where The Big One stayed. Idk, I'm going on. But, we know they were moved into that pen from the raptor paddock BECAUSE they killed the other ones.

[JPFan]

Originally Posted by mannyguy1

The dilophosaur thing is really not that hard to understand. Clearly Nedry was lucky enough to only encounter one. I can only assume the stench of Nedry's body later attracted more. Plus the tour guide voice even says "herd" implying that there is more than one dilophosaur in the park.

I watched the film in Spanish of Spain. The narrator says that the dinosaur is a Dilophosaurus, (referring to one). There is probably a mistranslation in this part, I guess you have seen the version with the original dialogues of the actors in English. THX for the information.

[MasCot]

Well, I guess Telltale will want to feature Troodons more prominently after their introductory scene... personally, I'd love to see (or play) a scene where the heroes investigate a Troodon nest, much like at the end of the novel with the Raptor nest.

As for the Raptors, I also think that they breed.

There is this picture:


I have no idea when this could take place, because the Raptors escape only after Arnold switches off everything during the second day of the crisis, and they are killed before sunset. That can only mean there are Raptors in the wild too.

[mannyguy1]

Originally Posted by FPug

Now that you mention it, I don't know if all the raptors were really in that small pen. I think it was just The Big One and her three accomplices. Because Doctor Grant held a baby raptor, I know it's still a baby by now, but how do we know they didn't just put the other raptors in the regular paddock instead of the holding pen where The Big One stayed. Idk, I'm going on. But, we know they were moved into that pen from the raptor paddock BECAUSE they killed the other ones.

The "big one" has 2 accomplices not 3. There are a total of 3 raptors on the island according to the first movie.
I see where you're theory stems from and maybe telltale will explain it, if they do, in that way. But I still see many issues. Muldoon never says that they relocated them from an open enclosure because of the "big one" killing other raptors.
Right now every theory is just that A THEORY. Its all speculation. The first movie establishes that only 3 raptors are in isla sorna and until the game decides to tweak this theory in a reasonable and plausible way its safe to assume only 3 raptors were in the island at the time of Jurassic Park.

Knowing the level of danger it seems stupid that they would have more raptors in an open space enclosure in Isla Nublar. Granted, they're obviously housing baby raptors since we saw one being born. But those didn't really pose a threat.


If you really want to nit pick. We could just point out how the design of the park should have really been designed with potential power outages in mind, specially the raptor pen.

[mannyguy1]

Originally Posted by MasCot

Well, I guess Telltale will want to feature Troodons more prominently after their introductory scene... personally, I'd love to see (or play) a scene where the heroes investigate a Troodon nest, much like at the end of the novel with the Raptor nest.

As for the Raptors, I also think that they breed.

There is this picture:


I have no idea when this could take place, because the Raptors escape only after Arnold switches off everything during the second day of the crisis, and they are killed before sunset. That can only mean there are Raptors in the wild too.

Thats an interesting picture, but these could be the pair of raptors that killed Muldoon. This could easily take place after they kill him and before entering the kitchen. Or after escaping the pen and before the attack on muldoon.
Who knows? But having fully grown raptors roaming around the park and breeding seems like something that would have been detected. After all these are larger day creatures. Where as the troodon are smaller and nocturnal hunters which would be harder to detect. But who knows telltale might have already decided to stick to this theory

[MasCot]

Originally Posted by mannyguy1

Thats an interesting picture, but these could be the pair of raptors that killed Muldoon. This could easily take place after they kill him and before entering the kitchen. Or after escaping the pen and before the attack on muldoon.
Who knows? But having fully grown raptors roaming around the park and breeding seems like something that would have been detected. After all these are larger day creatures. Where as the troodon are smaller and nocturnal hunters which would be harder to detect.

These cannot be the Raptors that killed Muldoon, because it is nighttime in the screenshot and the Raptors were killed before sunset. Everything is dark and the car's headlights are on.

Detection of a wild population is a problem, so I wonder how TellTale will deal with this... in the novel, no one looks around in the Park at night and the computer doesn't count all the animals, it just checks whether all the expected dinos are there.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by mannyguy1

Knowing the level of danger it seems stupid that they would have more raptors in an open space enclosure in Isla Nublar. Granted, they're obviously housing baby raptors since we saw one being born. But those didn't really pose a threat..

They're lethal at 8 months, and I do mean Lethal.

[FPug]

Originally Posted by MasCot

These cannot be the Raptors that killed Muldoon, because it is nighttime in the screenshot and the Raptors were killed before sunset. Everything is dark and the car's headlights are on.

Detection of a wild population is a problem, so I wonder how TellTale will deal with this... in the novel, no one looks around in the Park at night and the computer doesn't count all the animals, it just checks whether all the expected dinos are there.

I really doubt they are the raptors that killed Muldoon. BUT they could be, because, Notice the Jeep is still on top of the hill where nedry died. We know that Nima came only a short while after the power was shutting off because she discovers Nedry's body, is attacked, and is taken by Harding and Jess at night, and Harding was on his way to the docks when he found her. So I'm not saying they are the ones that killed Muldoon, but they could be.