Telltale Games

jmine83 · 03/14/2011, 10:08 am

Just thought I would quickly share some constructive criticism to the developers. Please refer to the enclosed picture I have prepared that explains my suggestions in question. All around, I'm sure it will be a remarkable and excellent game of course, but when it comes to certain details as the enclosed picture explains, I just have to scratch my head and ask "why" sometimes developers make the decisions they do and overlook details. I do sympathize though. This is a very big project I'm sure and your doing a wonderful job.

Considering, however, that the Nedry jeep detail thread got a positive response from Mark Darin of Telltale Games, it is very encouraging and rewarding to the fanatics of Jurassic Park that we can give our feedback and actually make some contributions into the design and content of the game. So thank you Telltale developers for listening.

Alan Johnson · 03/14/2011, 10:12 am

Woah! Awesome! Where'd you find these assets to begin with? lol

jmine83 · 03/14/2011, 10:27 am

Actually, I made them

I presume you mean the attached sign and badge graphics to the right of the screenshots of course.

I have a "huge" database of Jurassic Park material and content that I developed over the course of several years since the start of the JP franchise. I've actually made some very famous contributions to the Jurassic Park fan community that mainly includes very detailed maps of the JP islands. I made many maps that precisely details the size, topography, and locales of the events of the JP films. I have found that most all the content I've developed is being hosted on JP-Legacy currently including the Nublar and Sorna maps that I made. What you see publicly on the Internet, however, is only a "small percentage" of projects that I released and I have many more that I have never publicly released.

So I have tons of vector-graphic Jurassic Park graphic files created in Illustrator that is consistent with the marketing style and such with each of the three JP movies.

If your developers are interested, I am willing to share all the JP content I have free-of-charge, no strings attached.

FPug · 03/14/2011, 10:31 am

I SAW THOSE MAPS! You did an amazing job. Thank you. It's very refreshing to locate everything. I actually used a map on Operation Genesis to create a park! thanks

Alan Johnson · 03/14/2011, 10:56 am

Wow! That is amazing jmine. I'll pass that on to the team.

**Jake** · 03/14/2011, 11:32 am

Thanks. I'll take a look at the ID badges.

Alan Johnson · 03/14/2011, 02:18 pm

The team is aware and looking for ways to incorporate jmine's input! So rad!

RAnthonyMahan · 03/14/2011, 02:28 pm

Stuff like this thread is why Telltale is seriously my favorite developer.

If a Jurassic Park game was being done by anybody else, and someone pointed out an (admittedly minor) inaccuracy to the source material, the developers would probably go "Whatever, it's just a movie" to themselves without even giving a real response. But you guys went "Whoops, we made a mistake" and are now making the effort to fix it.

I know there's been a lot of negativity towards Telltale on the forums lately, but it's little things like this that remind us why you're great.

FPug · 03/14/2011, 02:31 pm

I went back and watched the movie and SAW the keycard on Arnold and Nedry. Good observation!

Asian Inferno · 03/14/2011, 02:32 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmine83

Just thought I would quickly share some constructive criticism to the developers. Please refer to the enclosed picture I have prepared that explains my suggestions in question. All around, I'm sure it will be a remarkable and excellent game of course, but when it comes to certain details as the enclosed picture explains, I just have to scratch my head and ask "why" sometimes developers make the decisions they do and overlook details. I do sympathize though. This is a very big project I'm sure and your doing a wonderful job.

Considering, however, that the Nedry jeep detail thread got a positive response from Mark Darin of Telltale Games, it is very encouraging and rewarding to the fanatics of Jurassic Park that we can give our feedback and actually make some contributions into the design and content of the game. So thank you Telltale developers for listening.

Glad to see my Jeep thread helped you step up with your expertise, it's nice to see another JP fanatic around.

Like I mentioned in the other thread, the more media we have access to, the more we can catch before the game ships.

I'll be paying much more attention now...

Thanks for listening Telltale, it's absolutely a great feeling to know when someone is listening. Your going up there with the best.

*MarkDarin* · 03/14/2011, 04:17 pm

Like I said in the other post... Go ahead and keep posting these little details and inaccuracies when you see them. We try to keep track of everything, but occasionally some things may slip through the cracks. We appreciate the help when you guys are keeping and eye out!

evolution_rex · 03/14/2011, 05:13 pm

Personally, I'm not worried about minor mistakes that TellTale does with the game, but I do care about the time line and geography. Considering it's a game, I know that the geography of the island will be a little off, but that's for that game part. If the map itself or scenes from the movie are completely off, then I will be a bit disappointed. But I feel that TellTale is doing an excellent job, and for some reason I want to say that this game is going to be the best JP game made so far, due to what seems so far as a well written story.

veki · 03/14/2011, 06:45 pm

jmine83, can you post those JP maps here?

waroftheworlds01 · 03/14/2011, 06:47 pm

I must say I'm very impressed with the amount of communication between the TellTale Team and the fans.

RexMaster · 03/15/2011, 05:39 am

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Originally Posted by MarkDarin

Like I said in the other post... Go ahead and keep posting these little details and inaccuracies when you see them. We try to keep track of everything, but occasionally some things may slip through the cracks. We appreciate the help when you guys are keeping and eye out!

Its looking great, and I'm glad you guys go back and check over your work. This franchise is not to be taken lightly when making an addition to the universe of Jurassic Park, and it seems you guys are 100% taking the correct approach! Its also so great that you did a Jurassic Park I game because finally we get a new one that is better than then NES game! Sure, it was fun when we didnt have something else, but look! In a month we will have this game that will capture the imagination of the entire planet!! Your scientists have done something that has never been done before!!!!

But seriously, there were minor flaws in the first Jurassic Park film, but it still was the greatest grossing movie of all time for quite a while, and 18 years later (today), it still remains about #13 out of every movie ever created! Whatever you do from here Telltale, it will turn out good as long as you keep the feel of the first movie going with it (AND THE ORIGINAL DINOSAUR SOUND EFFECTS!!!!!!). The fact that you kept the original raptor style instead of going JPIII was great, so thanks again Telltale!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Johnson

The team is aware and looking for ways to incorporate jmine's input! So rad!

Wow, Its still so hard to believe Telltale actually follows the customer's wishes (im sorry to sound so suprised, i just feel bad i hadnt come accross your company before)! Most companies do it thier way and expect to make sales but I have done some research on your guys' work and it seems that you actually care!!!! Great to know, I definetaly feel comfortable investing my money in your projects Telltale!!!

FPug · 03/15/2011, 06:27 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RexMaster

Wow, Its still so hard to believe Telltale actually follows the customer's wishes (im sorry to sound so suprised, i just feel bad i hadnt come accross your company before)! Most companies do it thier way and expect to make sales but I have done some research on your guys' work and it seems that you actually care!!!! Great to know, I definetaly feel comfortable investing my money in your projects Telltale!!!

Yeah, I definitely plan to buy your games in the future.

Bombillazo · 03/16/2011, 06:04 pm

Telltale, you are simply awesome

Threads like these show why a company such as NBC Universal trusted you with 2 of its prime franchises

Keep up the awesome work!

Alpharaptor · 03/16/2011, 06:33 pm

Nice catch jmine! You've got an eye for detail. That's awesome that you were able to recreate the badges and sign on illustrator. I've checked out the maps on JP Legacy and those are really good too. Like others have said, I think it's awesome that Telltale takes what the fans say into consideration.

Asian Inferno · 03/17/2011, 12:27 pm

Over at JPLegacy, there's talk of making a group to comb through all the media released so far for inaccuracies. Dunno who'd be interesting in forming/setting up one.

Alpharaptor · 03/18/2011, 11:52 am

Something I noticed in the gameplay footage at the triceratops paddock is that there is no trench/moat within the fence. Was the trench/moat in all of the dinosaur paddocks or were there some without it?

03/14/2011, 02:28 pm	#8
RAnthonyMahan Hyperkinetic Humany Thing Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,616	Stuff like this thread is why Telltale is seriously my favorite developer. If a Jurassic Park game was being done by anybody else, and someone pointed out an (admittedly minor) inaccuracy to the source material, the developers would probably go "Whatever, it's just a movie" to themselves without even giving a real response. But you guys went "Whoops, we made a mistake" and are now making the effort to fix it. I know there's been a lot of negativity towards Telltale on the forums lately, but it's little things like this that remind us why you're great. __________________ None of your damn business, Sam. My new book! My old book! My writing blog!

03/14/2011, 05:13 pm	#12
evolution_rex Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: at Jurassic Park Posts: 88	Personally, I'm not worried about minor mistakes that TellTale does with the game, but I do care about the time line and geography. Considering it's a game, I know that the geography of the island will be a little off, but that's for that game part. If the map itself or scenes from the movie are completely off, then I will be a bit disappointed. But I feel that TellTale is doing an excellent job, and for some reason I want to say that this game is going to be the best JP game made so far, due to what seems so far as a well written story. __________________ Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, he had no hair, he wasn't very fuzzy wuzzy?

03/17/2011, 12:27 pm	#19
Asian Inferno InGen Lab Tech/Vet Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 440	Over at JPLegacy, there's talk of making a group to comb through all the media released so far for inaccuracies. Dunno who'd be interesting in forming/setting up one. __________________ Ech0 Productions - Founder: http://www.ech0productions.echoz.com Grunts 'R' Us - Dedicated Writer: http://www.gruntsrus.com Jurassic Park Wikia - Contributor: http://jurassicpark.wikia.com Various Other Contributions: Halo.Bungie.Org, Halopedian, Wookiepedia, Battlefield Wiki, Wikipedia.

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03/14/2011, 10:12 am	#2
Alan Johnson Telltale Team Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,115	Woah! Awesome! Where'd you find these assets to begin with? lol

03/14/2011, 10:27 am	#3
jmine83 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 71	Actually, I made them I presume you mean the attached sign and badge graphics to the right of the screenshots of course. I have a "huge" database of Jurassic Park material and content that I developed over the course of several years since the start of the JP franchise. I've actually made some very famous contributions to the Jurassic Park fan community that mainly includes very detailed maps of the JP islands. I made many maps that precisely details the size, topography, and locales of the events of the JP films. I have found that most all the content I've developed is being hosted on JP-Legacy currently including the Nublar and Sorna maps that I made. What you see publicly on the Internet, however, is only a "small percentage" of projects that I released and I have many more that I have never publicly released. So I have tons of vector-graphic Jurassic Park graphic files created in Illustrator that is consistent with the marketing style and such with each of the three JP movies. If your developers are interested, I am willing to share all the JP content I have free-of-charge, no strings attached.

03/14/2011, 10:31 am	#4
FPug Chaotician Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 277	I SAW THOSE MAPS! You did an amazing job. Thank you. It's very refreshing to locate everything. I actually used a map on Operation Genesis to create a park! thanks

03/14/2011, 10:56 am	#5
Alan Johnson Telltale Team Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,115	Wow! That is amazing jmine. I'll pass that on to the team.

03/14/2011, 11:32 am	#6
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	Thanks. I'll take a look at the ID badges.

03/14/2011, 02:18 pm	#7
Alan Johnson Telltale Team Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,115	The team is aware and looking for ways to incorporate jmine's input! So rad!

03/14/2011, 02:31 pm	#9
FPug Chaotician Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 277	I went back and watched the movie and SAW the keycard on Arnold and Nedry. Good observation!

03/14/2011, 04:17 pm	#11
MarkDarin Telltale Team Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 468	Like I said in the other post... Go ahead and keep posting these little details and inaccuracies when you see them. We try to keep track of everything, but occasionally some things may slip through the cracks. We appreciate the help when you guys are keeping and eye out!

03/14/2011, 06:45 pm	#13
veki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 126	jmine83, can you post those JP maps here?

03/14/2011, 06:47 pm	#14
waroftheworlds01 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 866	I must say I'm very impressed with the amount of communication between the TellTale Team and the fans.

03/16/2011, 06:04 pm	#17
Bombillazo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 111	Telltale, you are simply awesome Threads like these show why a company such as NBC Universal trusted you with 2 of its prime franchises Keep up the awesome work!

03/16/2011, 06:33 pm	#18
Alpharaptor Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nebraska Posts: 68	Nice catch jmine! You've got an eye for detail. That's awesome that you were able to recreate the badges and sign on illustrator. I've checked out the maps on JP Legacy and those are really good too. Like others have said, I think it's awesome that Telltale takes what the fans say into consideration.

03/18/2011, 11:52 am	#20
Alpharaptor Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nebraska Posts: 68	Something I noticed in the gameplay footage at the triceratops paddock is that there is no trench/moat within the fence. Was the trench/moat in all of the dinosaur paddocks or were there some without it?