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Chyron8472 · 09/13/2011, 03:01 pm

I actually enjoy AGDI's explanation of why Alexander seems to have creepy stalker issues at the beginning of KQ6. For his family's fate to have been set as such to compel him to move elsewhere makes more sense than to be inexplicably infatuated with a woman he only met once for a few minutes.

BagginsKQ · 09/13/2011, 03:12 pm

He's talking about the original...

Chyron8472 · 09/13/2011, 03:13 pm

yeah, I know. I deleted that after I realized it.

BagginsKQ · 09/13/2011, 03:25 pm

I understand the disconnect in KQ2 might have to do with the fact, that Roberta didn't write the manual. She only designed the game.

The manual was written by Annette Childs later on, before the game was published!

Notice that KQ1 received two manual stories too! The original is simpler and fits closer to the description given by Edward in the the game... In KQ1 original, the treasures weren't stolen from Edward... Infact, he sends Graham out to find treasures he's only 'heard about through ancient legends'!

The witch has no connection to any treasure in that version of the story... and is just a random 'baddie' that invaded the land according to the manual.

The newer manual, written about a year or two later, by Roberta herself, doesn't quite fit with how Edward describes the treasures in the game itself! It added in the more detailed concept that the treasures were stolen from Edward... But this wasn't updated in the game (Edward still describes that he's heard of 'legendary treasures', and he wants them, that he thinks will help Daventry).

The KQ1 remake moved closer to Roberta's manual story's description of the treasures. Edward finally states that they were stolen from the kingdom. Still the witch is not really connected into the story at all within the game... The game just calls her a 'witch', and there is no mention that she stole a treasure.

Likewise it looks like with KQ2, Roberta had her own version of the story, where Dracula was more central to the game's plot, and Annette attempted to make Hagatha more central but Roberta never included that idea in the game itself! There are no references connecting Hagatha to Valanice in the game at all.

techie775 · 09/13/2011, 04:21 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BagginsKQ

I understand the disconnect in KQ2 might have to do with the fact, that Roberta didn't write the manual. She only designed the game.

The manual was written by Annette Childs later on, before the game was published!

Notice that KQ1 received two manual stories too! The original is simpler and fits closer to the description given by Edward in the the game... In KQ1 original, the treasures weren't stolen from Edward... Infact, he sends Graham out to find treasures he's only 'heard about through ancient legends'!

Wow I never knew that about KQ1 or 2. Personally I felt like I was playing a different game than the manual. Too bad they didn't organize it better.

MusicallyInspired · 09/13/2011, 04:44 pm

It was always my understanding that Edgar was never ever related to Lolotte, but that he was abducted much like Alexander was. Malicia is definitely canonically related to Edgar, though?

BagginsKQ · 09/13/2011, 04:50 pm

Thanks glad to help...

Also I don't know much about Annette Childs but what I have figured out, she is apparently only did the documenation for several Sierra games, and may have helped design the the box for KQ3.

She later apparently moved onto Cinemaware, and did documenation for Rocket Ranger.

I don't know if she was a Sierra employee or freelance...

Quote:

was always my understanding that Edgar was never ever related to Lolotte, but that he was abducted much like Alexander was. Malicia is definitely canonically related to Edgar, though?

In KQ7, Malicia is Edgar's aunt! Titania is Edgar's mom. Titania and Malicia are sisters! Lolotte is not related to any of them!

Strangely AGDI states that Lolotte is Malicia's younger sister! Which would mean that in that game Titania would be their sister (though Titania isn't mentioned at all)! It would mean Edgar was Lolotte's nephew... which doesn't fit with what KQ7 says!
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Lolotte%27s_letter

MusicallyInspired · 09/13/2011, 04:53 pm

Ok, so flub. No biggie.

BagginsKQ · 09/13/2011, 04:59 pm

I think its an issue in alot of fan fiction... Many people assume that Lolotte was related for some reason.

I don't know something as coincidental as Lolotte and Titania are both green?

Chyron8472 · 09/13/2011, 07:22 pm

Titania:

Lolotte:

BagginsKQ · 09/13/2011, 07:57 pm

It gets worse, some go as far to assume Genesta is a fourth sister

http://tvwiki.tv/wiki/King's_Quest

What do you expect from the fans!

I mean some think Manannan, Valanice, and Alexander are related!

Lambonius · 09/13/2011, 10:04 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BagginsKQ

I mean some think Manannan, Valanice, and Alexander are related!

Next you'll be telling me that Darth Vader was really Luke Skywalker's father and Princess Leia was his sister! PSHAW!!

Anakin Skywalker · 09/14/2011, 06:20 am

MusicallyInspired · 09/14/2011, 07:36 am

That's a little big....

BagginsKQ · 09/14/2011, 08:17 am

Holy crap!

Chyron8472 · 09/14/2011, 11:59 am

Stupid. Do you guys even look at the size of images before you post them?

Seriously, that image is 3300 pixels wide. How did he not notice that?

Blackthorne519 · 09/14/2011, 12:04 pm

What the fuck is that anyway? It won't load, because my browser said "RED X - TOO FUCKING BIG."

Pay attention to how big your images are!

Bt

Chyron8472 · 09/14/2011, 12:07 pm

It's a giant Picard facepalm, which means that the attempt at humor is ruined by the fact that you have to bother to horizontally scroll or zoom out to see it properly.

I take that back. I zoomed Firefox all the way out and the image is still too big to fit entirely on the screen.

...okay, when you post something, it does show you your post after submitting it. I don't see how people can post huge images without realizing it.

DAISHI · 09/14/2011, 12:07 pm

I gotta say that's pretty friggin hilarious.

I'm sure it broke someone's computer tho.

Chyron8472 · 09/14/2011, 12:22 pm

I see your

and raise you a

09/13/2011, 03:25 pm	#104
BagginsKQ Yes, Fact, it is KQ8... Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099	I understand the disconnect in KQ2 might have to do with the fact, that Roberta didn't write the manual. She only designed the game. The manual was written by Annette Childs later on, before the game was published! Notice that KQ1 received two manual stories too! The original is simpler and fits closer to the description given by Edward in the the game... In KQ1 original, the treasures weren't stolen from Edward... Infact, he sends Graham out to find treasures he's only 'heard about through ancient legends'! The witch has no connection to any treasure in that version of the story... and is just a random 'baddie' that invaded the land according to the manual. The newer manual, written about a year or two later, by Roberta herself, doesn't quite fit with how Edward describes the treasures in the game itself! It added in the more detailed concept that the treasures were stolen from Edward... But this wasn't updated in the game (Edward still describes that he's heard of 'legendary treasures', and he wants them, that he thinks will help Daventry). The KQ1 remake moved closer to Roberta's manual story's description of the treasures. Edward finally states that they were stolen from the kingdom. Still the witch is not really connected into the story at all within the game... The game just calls her a 'witch', and there is no mention that she stole a treasure. Likewise it looks like with KQ2, Roberta had her own version of the story, where Dracula was more central to the game's plot, and Annette attempted to make Hagatha more central but Roberta never included that idea in the game itself! There are no references connecting Hagatha to Valanice in the game at all. Last edited by BagginsKQ; 09/13/2011 at 05:48 pm.

09/13/2011, 07:57 pm	#111
BagginsKQ Yes, Fact, it is KQ8... Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099	It gets worse, some go as far to assume Genesta is a fourth sister http://tvwiki.tv/wiki/King's_Quest What do you expect from the fans! I mean some think Manannan, Valanice, and Alexander are related! Last edited by BagginsKQ; 09/13/2011 at 08:11 pm.

09/14/2011, 11:59 am	#116
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	Stupid. Do you guys even look at the size of images before you post them? Seriously, that image is 3300 pixels wide. How did he not notice that? Last edited by Chyron8472; 09/14/2011 at 12:02 pm.

09/14/2011, 12:07 pm	#118
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	It's a giant Picard facepalm, which means that the attempt at humor is ruined by the fact that you have to bother to horizontally scroll or zoom out to see it properly. I take that back. I zoomed Firefox all the way out and the image is still too big to fit entirely on the screen. ...okay, when you post something, it does show you your post after submitting it. I don't see how people can post huge images without realizing it. Last edited by Chyron8472; 09/14/2011 at 12:12 pm.

09/14/2011, 12:07 pm	#119
DAISHI TELLTALE STEALTH NINJA Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,124	I gotta say that's pretty friggin hilarious. I'm sure it broke someone's computer tho. __________________ "Hah! It's like we don't even have feelings. Now pardon me while I recline in my huge executive chair and guffaw, cigar in-hand. " "ill just go with what Winslow always when something that funny about a location in monkey island is said"

09/13/2011, 03:01 pm	#101
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	I actually enjoy AGDI's explanation of why Alexander seems to have creepy stalker issues at the beginning of KQ6. For his family's fate to have been set as such to compel him to move elsewhere makes more sense than to be inexplicably infatuated with a woman he only met once for a few minutes.

09/13/2011, 03:12 pm	#102
BagginsKQ Yes, Fact, it is KQ8... Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099	He's talking about the original...

09/13/2011, 03:13 pm	#103
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	yeah, I know. I deleted that after I realized it.

09/13/2011, 04:59 pm	#109
BagginsKQ Yes, Fact, it is KQ8... Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099	I think its an issue in alot of fan fiction... Many people assume that Lolotte was related for some reason. I don't know something as coincidental as Lolotte and Titania are both green?

09/13/2011, 07:22 pm	#110
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	Titania: Lolotte:

09/14/2011, 06:20 am	#113
Anakin Skywalker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 609

09/14/2011, 08:17 am	#115
BagginsKQ Yes, Fact, it is KQ8... Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099	Holy crap!

09/14/2011, 12:04 pm	#117
Blackthorne519 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 339	What the fuck is that anyway? It won't load, because my browser said "RED X - TOO FUCKING BIG." Pay attention to how big your images are! Bt

09/14/2011, 12:22 pm	#120
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,152	I see your and raise you a

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