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Emo Hoe · 11/25/2011, 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by MrSeyker

BTW, how expensive as a CD player back in 93? As I have some truble believing Jess could have one.

Because her father works in Jurassic Park and given his status there and the top secret nature its pretty safe to assume he was paid a pretty darn good wage and culd afford to spoil his girl to make up for his abscence?

Neelis · 11/25/2011, 10:27 am

I found something... interesting. In the film, Malcolm explains the Chaos Theory to Ellie by having a drop of water roll down her hand and wrist, followed by another drop from the exact same spot and with her hand in the same position; the second drop rolls down differently.

In the game, in order to find the Barbasol canister, Nima uses an (empty) soda can to roll down the hill, to simulate the path traveled by the canister Nedry dropped. The soda bottle ends up in the exact spot where Nedry's canister is! The conditions are very different (while Nedry was there - alive - it was raining and a stream of water forced the canister down, when Nima is looking for the can it's dry and there's no water rushing down.) Did Nima just disprove Malcolm's theory and possibly put him out of work?

Elogotar · 11/25/2011, 10:50 am

One: That post right above mine, hilarious and true.

Two: (and the main reason I'm posting) How about this for an error: The night after the fight between the Rex and the Trike, Dr. Sorkin sends a tour vehicle to pick them up. You'll notice through the whole scene the shed is in the back and they don't switch the camera to the other side of the road. The vehicle enters from the left and exits to the right, but even though you can't see it when they show the vehicle driving away, the gate from the Trike paddock was still laying right over the track for the tour vehicle to the right of the shed. WTH? Did it just driver through the giant piece of metal laying in the middle of the road? And how am I the first to post about it? It seems to me to be the most blatantly obvious error in the game.

Neelis · 11/25/2011, 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by Elogotar

One: That post right above mine, hilarious and true.

Two: (and the main reason I'm posting) How about this for an error: The night after the fight between the Rex and the Trike, Dr. Sorkin sends a tour vehicle to pick them up. You'll notice through the whole scene the shed is in the back and they don't switch the camera to the other side of the road. The vehicle enters from the left and exits to the right, but even though you can't see it when they show the vehicle driving away, the gate from the Trike paddock was still laying right over the track for the tour vehicle to the right of the shed. WTH? Did it just driver through the giant piece of metal laying in the middle of the road? And how am I the first to post about it? It seems to me to be the most blatantly obvious error in the game.

As big a plot hole as the sudden appearance of a giant ravine where the T-Rex paddock was minutes before in the film - or perhaps the Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus cleared the road after their fight.

I must admit, I never gave it any thought. Too absorbed by the game. Well spotted!

veki · 11/25/2011, 05:06 pm

Maybe that was cut when making 4 episodes of the game? Although it would be nice to have objective to remove the fence...

Shadowknight1 · 11/25/2011, 05:12 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elogotar

One: That post right above mine, hilarious and true.

Two: (and the main reason I'm posting) How about this for an error: The night after the fight between the Rex and the Trike, Dr. Sorkin sends a tour vehicle to pick them up. You'll notice through the whole scene the shed is in the back and they don't switch the camera to the other side of the road. The vehicle enters from the left and exits to the right, but even though you can't see it when they show the vehicle driving away, the gate from the Trike paddock was still laying right over the track for the tour vehicle to the right of the shed. WTH? Did it just driver through the giant piece of metal laying in the middle of the road? And how am I the first to post about it? It seems to me to be the most blatantly obvious error in the game.

After noticing that little bit later, I'm going to operate under the assumption that between shoving Nima into the tour vehicle, Gerry went over and moved the door.

David Arthur · 11/26/2011, 04:57 pm

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Originally Posted by MrSeyker

BTW, how expensive as a CD player back in 93? As I have some trouble believing Jess could have one.

Expensive, but not prohibitively so. I'd say a normal, home CD system was at least as mainstream as Blu-ray is now — a portable one less so, but still more common than 3D televisions are today.

Amphicoelias · 11/26/2011, 06:55 pm

In Episode 3, during the corridor walk, Hammond gets referred to as "Dr. Hammond." This caught me by surprise a bit...I don't think it was mentioned that he had a doctorate in the movie or book. I always saw him as a self-made businessman rather than an academic, but I guess he could be both?

MrSeyker · 11/26/2011, 08:47 pm

At the JPL forum, user Jaimie brought to my atttention that Nima is seen using a Walther P99, which wasn't even in development until 94 (93 was it's design stage).

I had a closer look at the gun, and there are some inconsistencies, but the gun does look like a P99.

CrazyCajun504 · 11/27/2011, 01:41 am

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Originally Posted by Amphicoelias

In Episode 3, during the corridor walk, Hammond gets referred to as "Dr. Hammond." This caught me by surprise a bit...I don't think it was mentioned that he had a doctorate in the movie or book. I always saw him as a self-made businessman rather than an academic, but I guess he could be both?

Actually I believe at the end of Lost World, The CNN name title for Hammond's interview identifies him as "Dr. John P. Hammond: Founder of InGen"

jurassiraptor · 11/27/2011, 08:49 pm

Portable CD players were available since the mid 1980s, and were affordable and commonplace by 1993 (I know, I had one

) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discman

AdrynBliss · 11/28/2011, 07:00 am

Hi all, new here, just wanted to clarify, it seems like the game follows the movie 'canon' rather than the book, is this the case? as, if I remember correctly, in the book harding and hammond bought the farm and there was a shed load of raptors and the costa rican govenment blew the island to hell when folks finally made it off the island.

*Sinaz20* · 11/28/2011, 10:32 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSeyker

At the JPL forum, user Jaimie brought to my atttention that Nima is seen using a Walther P99, which wasn't even in development until 94 (93 was it's design stage).

I had a closer look at the gun, and there are some inconsistencies, but the gun does look like a P99.

You win my prize-- that's the one nit picky anachronism that I discovered. Good eye!

Final Fall 0 · 12/17/2011, 07:13 am

Playing through the game the second time, I noticed that the part where everyone gets separated makes no sense when looking at the time frame. Gerry and Nima get separated from the rest of the group and hear Jess scream just before climbing the ladder out of the tunnels. They have a conversation for about 5 minutes, then a tour car arrives that will take them to the Marine Exhibit after it stops for 5 minutes at the lookout spot. Let's assume that the trip to the exhibit took at least 5 minutes. So, they've been gone for a total of 15 minutes. After Jess screams, she, Billy, and Sorkin escape through a door from the Troodons, walk through the fish hatchery (in about 1 or 2 minutes) and then meet a waiting Nima and Gerry on the other side of a door. This just doesn't add up. Not only did Nima and Gerry take MUCH longer to get to the exhibit, but they were waiting for the others!

Just a little odd. It definitely feels like something was cut here.

*Sinaz20* · 12/19/2011, 09:13 am

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Originally Posted by Final Fall 0

Playing through the game the second time, I noticed that the part where everyone gets separated makes no sense when looking at the time frame. Gerry and Nima get separated from the rest of the group and hear Jess scream just before climbing the ladder out of the tunnels. They have a conversation for about 5 minutes, then a tour car arrives that will take them to the Marine Exhibit after it stops for 5 minutes at the lookout spot. Let's assume that the trip to the exhibit took at least 5 minutes. So, they've been gone for a total of 15 minutes. After Jess screams, she, Billy, and Sorkin escape through a door from the Troodons, walk through the fish hatchery (in about 1 or 2 minutes) and then meet a waiting Nima and Gerry on the other side of a door. This just doesn't add up. Not only did Nima and Gerry take MUCH longer to get to the exhibit, but they were waiting for the others!

Just a little odd. It definitely feels like something was cut here.

It does seem a bit confusing, eh? Ultimately, the door they exit from in the marine facility is not the same door they escaped through in the tunnels. They still had a large portion of the tunnels to trek through... in a bit of a panic and a hurry, but otherwise uneventful.

Final Fall 0 · 12/20/2011, 06:00 am

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Originally Posted by Sinaz20

It does seem a bit confusing, eh? Ultimately, the door they exit from in the marine facility is not the same door they escaped through in the tunnels. They still had a large portion of the tunnels to trek through... in a bit of a panic and a hurry, but otherwise uneventful.

Ahhh, makes sense now. Should have paid more attention to the door itself! It also makes more sense as I notice Sorkin bursts through the final door out of the tunnels first, whereas Billy was fiddling with the lock during the Separated chapter and would have walked through first. I should have known Telltale would keep their story tight

Thanks

tope1983 · 12/21/2011, 07:19 am

What's up with the sick trike of the movie? Was this one out of its paddock?
In the game the Triceratops pen is not only shown as an enclosure but Harding also confirms that the paddock is surrounded by fences.
In the movie when the group leaves the tour vehicles they reach the sick trike without passing any fence....

Pitalla · 12/21/2011, 01:23 pm

So a Velociraptor just killed a parasaurolophus... then why does the rest of the pack go after some hummies rather than joining their sister to get the big mac?

tope1983 · 12/21/2011, 11:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Pitalla

So a Velociraptor just killed a parasaurolophus... then why does the rest of the pack go after some hummies rather than joining their sister to get the big mac?

that's the formula in this genre: threaten the humans by all kinds of necessary.

Emo Hoe · 12/22/2011, 02:59 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tope1983

What's up with the sick trike of the movie? Was this one out of its paddock?
In the game the Triceratops pen is not only shown as an enclosure but Harding also confirms that the paddock is surrounded by fences.
In the movie when the group leaves the tour vehicles they reach the sick trike without passing any fence....

Wut?

In the opening jess scene you can see the tour road in the herbivore area, with where the sick trike are is found.
Later on you are on a service road outside the herbivore area.

No fault there, the herbivore area is entirely enclosed but the tour road goes through it, as herbivores pose no threat.

11/25/2011, 10:50 am	#43
Elogotar The Dinosaur Man Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 90	One: That post right above mine, hilarious and true. Two: (and the main reason I'm posting) How about this for an error: The night after the fight between the Rex and the Trike, Dr. Sorkin sends a tour vehicle to pick them up. You'll notice through the whole scene the shed is in the back and they don't switch the camera to the other side of the road. The vehicle enters from the left and exits to the right, but even though you can't see it when they show the vehicle driving away, the gate from the Trike paddock was still laying right over the track for the tour vehicle to the right of the shed. WTH? Did it just driver through the giant piece of metal laying in the middle of the road? And how am I the first to post about it? It seems to me to be the most blatantly obvious error in the game. __________________ Were it not for the cataclysmic events which overtook them, it's entirely possible that Raptors rather than humans would have become the dominant species on this planet.

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11/25/2011, 10:27 am	#42
Neelis Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 54	I found something... interesting. In the film, Malcolm explains the Chaos Theory to Ellie by having a drop of water roll down her hand and wrist, followed by another drop from the exact same spot and with her hand in the same position; the second drop rolls down differently. In the game, in order to find the Barbasol canister, Nima uses an (empty) soda can to roll down the hill, to simulate the path traveled by the canister Nedry dropped. The soda bottle ends up in the exact spot where Nedry's canister is! The conditions are very different (while Nedry was there - alive - it was raining and a stream of water forced the canister down, when Nima is looking for the can it's dry and there's no water rushing down.) Did Nima just disprove Malcolm's theory and possibly put him out of work?

11/25/2011, 05:06 pm	#45
veki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 126	Maybe that was cut when making 4 episodes of the game? Although it would be nice to have objective to remove the fence...

11/26/2011, 06:55 pm	#48
Amphicoelias Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3	In Episode 3, during the corridor walk, Hammond gets referred to as "Dr. Hammond." This caught me by surprise a bit...I don't think it was mentioned that he had a doctorate in the movie or book. I always saw him as a self-made businessman rather than an academic, but I guess he could be both?

11/26/2011, 08:47 pm	#49
MrSeyker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 22	At the JPL forum, user Jaimie brought to my atttention that Nima is seen using a Walther P99, which wasn't even in development until 94 (93 was it's design stage). I had a closer look at the gun, and there are some inconsistencies, but the gun does look like a P99.

11/27/2011, 08:49 pm	#51
jurassiraptor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 143	Portable CD players were available since the mid 1980s, and were affordable and commonplace by 1993 (I know, I had one ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discman

11/28/2011, 07:00 am	#52
AdrynBliss Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2	Hi all, new here, just wanted to clarify, it seems like the game follows the movie 'canon' rather than the book, is this the case? as, if I remember correctly, in the book harding and hammond bought the farm and there was a shed load of raptors and the costa rican govenment blew the island to hell when folks finally made it off the island.

12/17/2011, 07:13 am	#54
Final Fall 0 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 38	Playing through the game the second time, I noticed that the part where everyone gets separated makes no sense when looking at the time frame. Gerry and Nima get separated from the rest of the group and hear Jess scream just before climbing the ladder out of the tunnels. They have a conversation for about 5 minutes, then a tour car arrives that will take them to the Marine Exhibit after it stops for 5 minutes at the lookout spot. Let's assume that the trip to the exhibit took at least 5 minutes. So, they've been gone for a total of 15 minutes. After Jess screams, she, Billy, and Sorkin escape through a door from the Troodons, walk through the fish hatchery (in about 1 or 2 minutes) and then meet a waiting Nima and Gerry on the other side of a door. This just doesn't add up. Not only did Nima and Gerry take MUCH longer to get to the exhibit, but they were waiting for the others! Just a little odd. It definitely feels like something was cut here.

12/21/2011, 07:19 am	#57
tope1983 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: BI, Austria Posts: 272	What's up with the sick trike of the movie? Was this one out of its paddock? In the game the Triceratops pen is not only shown as an enclosure but Harding also confirms that the paddock is surrounded by fences. In the movie when the group leaves the tour vehicles they reach the sick trike without passing any fence....

12/21/2011, 01:23 pm	#58
Pitalla Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 32	So a Velociraptor just killed a parasaurolophus... then why does the rest of the pack go after some hummies rather than joining their sister to get the big mac?