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sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:12 pm

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Originally Posted by lordvader900

I for one would enjoy that. But I agree - there isn't ever much story behind a free-roaming game (other than The Elder Scrolls games) because there is so much to do and you get lost in all the side quests. I would like to finally see all of Jurassic Park, but maybe as a mod for a bigger game, not as its own game. I think TellTale did the right thing.

GTA IV had a great story.

waroftheworlds01 · 11/17/2011, 07:13 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

GTA IV had a great story.

I actually thought that one was boring. There really wasn't much too it and it dragged on way to long. But GTA4 really isn't my favorite. I actually thought it was a bit of a step backwards to be honest.

lordvader900 · 11/17/2011, 07:17 pm

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Originally Posted by caeska

That's a terrible idea. This game was never meant to be a GTA: Isla Nublar

That's what I'm saying. This game was a very good choice of genra, and it was well executed. But a free roam game with nothing to do to this game (TT's JP, that is) would be kind of cool, I think. Like the original concept for Trespasser - it was to be free roam.
Well, I'm done debating for tonight. Jurassic Park: The Game is awesome, no matter how you slice it. I'll be replaying over the weekend.
Oh, and I've never played GTA, so I don't know anything about it.

ZerosTheWizard · 11/17/2011, 07:19 pm

I find it a bit unfair to review a game because that game is not the genre you would have preferred it to be, it should be based on the game as it is. It would be like saying "i didnt like call of duty because its not an adventure game" or "i didnt like world of warcraft because its not a first person shooter".

If you didnt like it because it wasnt the type of game you wanted to be thats one thing, but it doesnt necessarily mean the game sucks.

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:21 pm

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Originally Posted by ZerosTheWizard

I find it a bit unfair to review a game because that game is not the genre you would have preferred it to be, it should be based on the game as it is. It would be like saying "i didnt like call of duty because its not an adventure game" or "i didnt like world of warcraft because its not a first person shooter".

If you didnt like it because it wasnt the type of game you wanted to be thats one thing, but it doesnt necessarily mean the game sucks.

You have a point, but even as it is, it's really not all that great. It's decent, but it's not even good (imho).

BlankCanvasDJ · 11/17/2011, 07:21 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

Are you telling me you wouldn't want a free-roaming Jurassic Park game where you could go to any part of the park you wanted? You're crazy.

If the story is the focus of the game, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Sand-box games ruin the pacing of a story.

Look at Rockstar's games. They usually have fantastic stories, but the style of gameplay kills it. Nothing ruins John Marston's desperate quest to complete his mission and get back to his family like spending four hours picking herbs and going on fetch quests for tangential characters. Quick, you're a cop in 1940's L.A. and you've just found out that a woman was murdered by her husband and you need to arrest him before he skips town! What a tense moment! ...except it takes you ten real-world minutes to drive across town to the guy's house and that's even if you don't stop to answer those three unrelated police calls that you get on the way.

This Jurassic Park game was all about telling a nice, tight, Jurassic Park story. A sand-box game would have ruined that.

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:25 pm

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Originally Posted by BlankCanvasDJ

If the story is the focus of the game, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Sand-box games ruin the pacing of a story.

Look at Rockstar's games. They usually have fantastic stories, but the style of gameplay kills it. Nothing ruins John Marston's desperate quest to complete his mission and get back to his family like spending four hours picking herbs and going on fetch quests for tangential characters. Quick, you're a cop in 1940's L.A. and you've just found out that a woman was murdered by her husband and you need to arrest him before he skips town! What a tense moment! ...except it takes you ten real-world minutes to drive across town to the guy's house and that's even if you don't stop to answer those three unrelated police calls that you get on the way.

This Jurassic Park game was all about telling a nice, tight, Jurassic Park story. A sand-box game would have ruined that.

See though, when playing a Jurassic Park game, does anyone really care all that much about story? Nope. Pretty much only about the dinosaurs, and trying to survive them.

allaboardfilms · 11/17/2011, 07:26 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

See though, when playing a Jurassic Park game, does anyone really care all that much about story? Nope. Pretty much only about the dinosaurs, and trying to survive them.

I think quite a few people would argue that they're missing the point, then.....

BlankCanvasDJ · 11/17/2011, 07:28 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

See though, when playing a Jurassic Park game, does anyone really care all that much about story? Nope. Pretty much only about the dinosaurs, and trying to survive them.

Gasp! You wound me, sir!

waroftheworlds01 · 11/17/2011, 07:29 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

See though, when playing a Jurassic Park game, does anyone really care all that much about story? Nope. Pretty much only about the dinosaurs, and trying to survive them.

Why do you think The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park 3 got worse reviews then the original? THe answer is story. The story is very important when it comes to Jurassic Park. The dinosaurs are important too, but how they fit into the story is what makes them worth watching.

*Irishmile* · 11/17/2011, 07:31 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

See though, when playing a Jurassic Park game, does anyone really care all that much about story? Nope. Pretty much only about the dinosaurs, and trying to survive them.

Uh.... that is totally not all that I walked away with from reading the books and watching the movies.... there are some pretty deep story elements and character journeys in each version.. I would not want any less in the game if done right... There have been other fun JP games.. but NONE of them even seemed to try to carry the torch handed to them by Crichton or Spielberg.. this feels like it could fit within the world those men created... not some cash grab game... It feels like TTG wanted to make something the fans of the books and games would like... not some game with things forced in just because that is what NON-Fans want.

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:31 pm

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Originally Posted by waroftheworlds01

Why do you think The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park 3 got worse reviews then the original? THe answer is story. The story is very important when it comes to Jurassic Park. The dinosaurs are important too, but how they fit into the story is what makes them worth watching.

The original movie, as great as it is, has always been knocked for its weak plot.

*Irishmile* · 11/17/2011, 07:35 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

The original movie, as great as it is, has always been knocked for its weak plot.

not really no.... I have never heard anyone knock the plot of the first movie...

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Irishmile

not really no.... I have never heard anyone knock the plot of the first movie...

Legitimate bond.

BlankCanvasDJ · 11/17/2011, 07:39 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

The original movie, as great as it is, has always been knocked for its weak plot.

Don't confuse plot with story. Plot is what happens. Story is how it happens. The plot of the original film was "Dinosaurs are loose on an island, humans have to survive it." You're right, that's a pretty weak plot. But the story is where the film (and book) excelled.

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:39 pm

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Originally Posted by BlankCanvasDJ

Don't confuse plot with story. Plot is what happens. Story is how it happens. The plot of the original film was "Dinosaurs are loose on an island, humans have to survive it." You're right, that's a pretty weak plot. But the story is where the film excelled.

Again, legitimate bond.

BlankCanvasDJ · 11/17/2011, 07:41 pm

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Originally Posted by sockableclaw

Again, legitimate bond.

Oh, you mean...

Well at least we can all agree on that.

sockableclaw · 11/17/2011, 07:42 pm

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Originally Posted by BlankCanvasDJ

Oh, you mean...

Well at least we can all agree on that.

Hell yes. He was the best Bond!

Shadowknight1 · 11/17/2011, 08:45 pm

One thing guys. A lot of you are bashing IGN as a whole for this review. Remember, that score is based on ONE PERSON'S experience with the game.

Lambonius · 11/17/2011, 09:01 pm

Did any of you guys actually READ the review? This reviewer points out some very real and valid problems with the game, both from a fundamental design standpoint, and a storytelling standpoint. Take off the rose-colored glasses, please.

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Shadowknight1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,749	One thing guys. A lot of you are bashing IGN as a whole for this review. Remember, that score is based on ONE PERSON'S experience with the game. __________________ "Geez, we've been back together for five minutes Doc, and you're already talking about the end of the universe." "Stupid, stupid rat creatures!"

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11/17/2011, 07:19 pm	#24
ZerosTheWizard Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 59	I find it a bit unfair to review a game because that game is not the genre you would have preferred it to be, it should be based on the game as it is. It would be like saying "i didnt like call of duty because its not an adventure game" or "i didnt like world of warcraft because its not a first person shooter". If you didnt like it because it wasnt the type of game you wanted to be thats one thing, but it doesnt necessarily mean the game sucks.

11/17/2011, 09:01 pm	#40
Lambonius Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 596	Did any of you guys actually READ the review? This reviewer points out some very real and valid problems with the game, both from a fundamental design standpoint, and a storytelling standpoint. Take off the rose-colored glasses, please.