Telltale Games

Tjibbbe · 12/12/2011, 08:52 am

I figured this deserved its own topic. Props to Gibbeynator for finding the trailer in the first place. Behold:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Law-Order-Game-1040737.aspx

My feelings on the trailer (copied from the previous topic):

I don't watch Law & Order, but it's pretty cool that they're taking all these different versions of L&O and are throwing them together. Not sure about the graphics though, feels like a bit of a step back from more recent Telltale games. Perhaps because Ipod and Ipad seem to be the main platforms this time around (with PC & Mac coming later? A bit weird if true, as the PC-versions have always been there on day 1).

I like that the game has branching storylines based on how you play. Jurassic Park had a little bit of that, which I enjoyed, and Walking Dead seems to have that even more. Very exciting. Oh, and 7 episodes? That's crazy! Maybe they're shorter than what we're used to (which also seems logical if the game is targeted at mobile platforms)?

I'm still not sure if this is a game for me, but can some of the fans (or developers!) recommend me some of the best Law & Order episodes? I'm especially interested if it stars one of the characters of the game, I guess.

coolsome · 12/12/2011, 08:58 am

"Under the influence" is a good episode showing the balance between procuring and letting your feelings get in the way.

*RyanKaufman* · 12/12/2011, 09:45 am

Hey everyone! Thanks for waiting so patiently about news for Law & Order..

I'm Ryan Kaufman, the senior designer and writer on Law & Order: Legacies. I haven't been around the forums much, but I hope to change that and get more involved.

I'm starting a Twitter account to post news and trivia as we finish up the game, so you can see it happen real-time. (Sorta.)

https://twitter.com/PreppyJogger

Thanks for hanging in there! I'm really excited about the game and I hope you will be too.

coolsome · 12/12/2011, 12:07 pm

Will it be out before Christmas?

RAnthonyMahan · 12/12/2011, 03:12 pm

Huh. Interesting. Here's my thoughts.

Before I begin, let me say that I know next to nothing about Law and Order, so this is Telltale's first game where I can't speak as a fan of the franchise. Maybe someone who loves L&O would have a better impression from this than me, maybe they'd have a worse one. I don't know.

-The cel-shaded graphics are nice. Telltale still has a way to go when it comes to realistic graphics. Jurassic Park looked good but not great. The cel-shaded look lets the game look realistic and cartoony at the same time. I wouldn't mind if they used that style for The Walking Dead and Fables (it'd make things look...comicky).

-Gameplay seems kind of like Phoenix Wright. Which I fucking love. This might even be a decent way for me to fill the void since Capcom seems to have given up on bringing AA to the States.

-Seven episodes? That's a lot. Unless these are shorter than your usual episode, that would make this Telltale's biggest game yet.

-Branching paths and multiple endings? If they deliver, this is actually getting kind of promising.

At the same time, though, I see some bad stuff.

-That "You don't have to be a gamer to play" remark. Given how BttF and JP were both ultimately disappointments because of how watered-down they were for the casual crowd, that's a BIG red flag. I guess that remark could apply to adventure games as a whole, though, since they emphasize intellectual challenges over action and don't have any complex controls. If I was trying to introduce someone who's never played a video game before (like an older person...who likes watching cop dramas...) to, say, Monkey Island, I might say the same thing. Nevertheless, that sentence is a huge cause for alarm.

-Releasing it for the iThing 4.0 G before the PC (and no mention of consoles at all). Call me biased, but I sort of feel as adventure game developers Telltale should give top priority to the system that's been the genre's home for so long. I get why Telltale's started putting as much as they can on the App Store, but I hope they don't start thinking of themselves as a full-on maker of iGames. I'd rather be associated with the system that gave us Myst and Half-Life than the one that gave us Angry Birds and Fart Button.

mjc0961 · 12/12/2011, 04:09 pm

I agree that it's disappointing to hear that it's coming out on iStuff first and PC later. But hey, it's just waiting a little longer. Won't be that big of a deal as long as I can avoid spoilers.

Tjibbbe · 12/12/2011, 09:54 pm

The website is available as well: http://www.telltalegames.com/lawandorder/

It has the trailer, some screenshots, information on the first 2 episodes and on the characters. The site also confirms that there will be 7 episodes.

DanDud88 · 12/13/2011, 02:23 am

The plots for the first 2 episodes sound like the Rupert Murdoch Phone Hacking Scandal and the Michael Jackson/Conrad Murry case.

coolsome · 12/13/2011, 04:45 am

On the TTG youtube video of the trailer

Tags:

It feels like there trolling my Jack McCoy obsession.

(Also you spelt McCoy wrong).

*harrisonpink* · 12/13/2011, 10:55 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolsome

It feels like there trolling my Jack McCoy obsession.

(Also you spelt McCoy wrong).

McCoy is what makes that show. You aren't alone coolsome

The Gentleman · 12/13/2011, 11:17 am

I dislike the artstyle direction.

Otherwise, looks pretty good.

*RyanKaufman* · 12/13/2011, 01:59 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanDud88

The plots for the first 2 episodes sound like the Rupert Murdoch Phone Hacking Scandal and the Michael Jackson/Conrad Murry case.

One of the most enjoyable things about writing for Law & Order are those "ripped from the headlines" storylines. We had a ton of fun finding them and adapting them into a crime you could investigate.

So yeah... one of these guesses is a pretty darn good one...

That first episode is actually chock full of headlines... after it comes out, I'll discuss more in detail where they came from and how we fit em together. Er... assuming you guys & gals are interested.

Ribs · 12/13/2011, 04:41 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanKaufman

One of the most enjoyable things about writing for Law & Order are those "ripped from the headlines" storylines. We had a ton of fun finding them and adapting them into a crime you could investigate.

So yeah... one of these guesses is a pretty darn good one...

That first episode is actually chock full of headlines... after it comes out, I'll discuss more in detail where they came from and how we fit em together. Er... assuming you guys & gals are interested.

*clears throat*

I do believe SQUEEEEEEE is in order. Mmhm. Rightly so.

Ehem. Carry on.

*Mike* · 12/13/2011, 05:07 pm

http://www.gamesradar.com/law-order-...-victims-unit/

Gamesradar posted up a preview earlier today that you guys might find interesting.

Ribs · 12/13/2011, 06:07 pm

Any chance we could get official word regarding if due to the longer length and lower price point that each individual episode would be shorter, or will it be the usual TTG 2-3 hours an episode?

RAnthonyMahan · 12/13/2011, 07:52 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ribs

Any chance we could get official word regarding if due to the longer length and lower price point that each individual episode would be shorter, or will it be the usual TTG 2-3 hours an episode?

The Gamesradar article says each episode is about 1-2 hours long, so yes, they're shorter.

Seven two-hour episodes compared to five three-hour episodes, 14 vs. 15...yeah, it's roughly even.

OCKi · 12/14/2011, 07:28 am

Looks interesting. Have a question though;

Since there are multiple ways to end a case; will your actions in one episode have any consequensces for the upcoming episodes story-wise, or are they pretty much stand-alone episodes with no relations whatsoever?

mjc0961 · 12/15/2011, 08:07 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Parks

http://www.gamesradar.com/law-order-...-victims-unit/

Gamesradar posted up a preview earlier today that you guys might find interesting.

Good read, thanks for the link.

I laughed at this part:

Quote:

Now if they can only court Christopher Meloni to reprise his role as Elliot Stabler so we could beat up people and call them pedophiles, we'll really be sold on the "dream team" thing...

*RyanKaufman* · 12/15/2011, 08:26 am

As you may or may not know, we work pretty fast on the Law & Order episodes. Right now I'm working on the last episode of the season, wrapping everything up. Thought I'd Tweet a teaser of a scene...

https://twitter.com/#!/PreppyJogger/...035264/photo/1

BrakMan2005 · 12/16/2011, 06:49 am

This game looks good to me, and with this cast the art style, it looks better than I thought. Man it's good to see Lennie Brisco again, as well as Jack McCoy and the other cast you chose. Personally, I was kinda hopping for Ed Green & maybe Robert Goren for an episode, (or even John Munch)...well, maybe next season.

As a Law & Order fan, I'm liking what I'm seeing and I'll grab this game when it comes out for PC.

12/12/2011, 08:52 am	#1
Tjibbbe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 564	First trailer and information I figured this deserved its own topic. Props to Gibbeynator for finding the trailer in the first place. Behold: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Law-Order-Game-1040737.aspx My feelings on the trailer (copied from the previous topic): I don't watch Law & Order, but it's pretty cool that they're taking all these different versions of L&O and are throwing them together. Not sure about the graphics though, feels like a bit of a step back from more recent Telltale games. Perhaps because Ipod and Ipad seem to be the main platforms this time around (with PC & Mac coming later? A bit weird if true, as the PC-versions have always been there on day 1). I like that the game has branching storylines based on how you play. Jurassic Park had a little bit of that, which I enjoyed, and Walking Dead seems to have that even more. Very exciting. Oh, and 7 episodes? That's crazy! Maybe they're shorter than what we're used to (which also seems logical if the game is targeted at mobile platforms)? I'm still not sure if this is a game for me, but can some of the fans (or developers!) recommend me some of the best Law & Order episodes? I'm especially interested if it stars one of the characters of the game, I guess. Last edited by Tjibbbe; 12/12/2011 at 08:58 am.

12/12/2011, 03:12 pm	#5
RAnthonyMahan Hyperkinetic Humany Thing Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,624	Huh. Interesting. Here's my thoughts. Before I begin, let me say that I know next to nothing about Law and Order, so this is Telltale's first game where I can't speak as a fan of the franchise. Maybe someone who loves L&O would have a better impression from this than me, maybe they'd have a worse one. I don't know. -The cel-shaded graphics are nice. Telltale still has a way to go when it comes to realistic graphics. Jurassic Park looked good but not great. The cel-shaded look lets the game look realistic and cartoony at the same time. I wouldn't mind if they used that style for The Walking Dead and Fables (it'd make things look...comicky). -Gameplay seems kind of like Phoenix Wright. Which I fucking love. This might even be a decent way for me to fill the void since Capcom seems to have given up on bringing AA to the States. -Seven episodes? That's a lot. Unless these are shorter than your usual episode, that would make this Telltale's biggest game yet. -Branching paths and multiple endings? If they deliver, this is actually getting kind of promising. At the same time, though, I see some bad stuff. -That "You don't have to be a gamer to play" remark. Given how BttF and JP were both ultimately disappointments because of how watered-down they were for the casual crowd, that's a BIG red flag. I guess that remark could apply to adventure games as a whole, though, since they emphasize intellectual challenges over action and don't have any complex controls. If I was trying to introduce someone who's never played a video game before (like an older person...who likes watching cop dramas...) to, say, Monkey Island, I might say the same thing. Nevertheless, that sentence is a huge cause for alarm. -Releasing it for the iThing 4.0 G before the PC (and no mention of consoles at all). Call me biased, but I sort of feel as adventure game developers Telltale should give top priority to the system that's been the genre's home for so long. I get why Telltale's started putting as much as they can on the App Store, but I hope they don't start thinking of themselves as a full-on maker of iGames. I'd rather be associated with the system that gave us Myst and Half-Life than the one that gave us Angry Birds and Fart Button. __________________ None of your damn business, Sam. My new book! My old book! My writing blog!

12/14/2011, 07:28 am	#17
OCKi Adventure-Game Oracle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 274	Looks interesting. Have a question though; Since there are multiple ways to end a case; will your actions in one episode have any consequensces for the upcoming episodes story-wise, or are they pretty much stand-alone episodes with no relations whatsoever? __________________ "Bwahahahahah... With my powerful demonic might, I shall rule the world, frightening little girls by chomping down on their lollypops! Bwahahahaahahaahhah... Oh, who am I kidding... I'm bored out of my skull..." - Murray, the invincible demonic talking skull.

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12/12/2011, 09:45 am	#3
RyanKaufman Telltale Team Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 18	Hey everyone! Thanks for waiting so patiently about news for Law & Order.. I'm Ryan Kaufman, the senior designer and writer on Law & Order: Legacies. I haven't been around the forums much, but I hope to change that and get more involved. I'm starting a Twitter account to post news and trivia as we finish up the game, so you can see it happen real-time. (Sorta.) https://twitter.com/PreppyJogger Thanks for hanging in there! I'm really excited about the game and I hope you will be too.

12/12/2011, 04:09 pm	#6
mjc0961 YOU'RE a pie chart. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49	I agree that it's disappointing to hear that it's coming out on iStuff first and PC later. But hey, it's just waiting a little longer. Won't be that big of a deal as long as I can avoid spoilers.

12/12/2011, 09:54 pm	#7
Tjibbbe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 564	The website is available as well: http://www.telltalegames.com/lawandorder/ It has the trailer, some screenshots, information on the first 2 episodes and on the characters. The site also confirms that there will be 7 episodes.

12/13/2011, 02:23 am	#8
DanDud88 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1	The plots for the first 2 episodes sound like the Rupert Murdoch Phone Hacking Scandal and the Michael Jackson/Conrad Murry case.

12/13/2011, 11:17 am	#11
The Gentleman My Opinions Are Wrong Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 925	I dislike the artstyle direction. Otherwise, looks pretty good.

12/13/2011, 05:07 pm	#14
Mike Moderator Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,224	http://www.gamesradar.com/law-order-...-victims-unit/ Gamesradar posted up a preview earlier today that you guys might find interesting.

12/15/2011, 08:26 am	#19
RyanKaufman Telltale Team Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 18	As you may or may not know, we work pretty fast on the Law & Order episodes. Right now I'm working on the last episode of the season, wrapping everything up. Thought I'd Tweet a teaser of a scene... https://twitter.com/#!/PreppyJogger/...035264/photo/1

12/16/2011, 06:49 am	#20
BrakMan2005 All Hail Brak Join Date: May 2010 Location: The U.S. of A. Posts: 177	This game looks good to me, and with this cast the art style, it looks better than I thought. Man it's good to see Lennie Brisco again, as well as Jack McCoy and the other cast you chose. Personally, I was kinda hopping for Ed Green & maybe Robert Goren for an episode, (or even John Munch)...well, maybe next season. As a Law & Order fan, I'm liking what I'm seeing and I'll grab this game when it comes out for PC.