Mistakes, plot holes and comic canon violations in the game (spoilers)

[WARP10CK]

Originally Posted by tobar

Ooops missed that one didn´t you telltale

[PhenomenalOne]

How about the fact that when Lee was being transported, there seemed to be no real hint of the outbreak, ie; the world was functioning normally... then he wakes up after the crash, and the outbreak looks like it has been happening for quite some time

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by PhenomenalOne

How about the fact that when Lee was being transported, there seemed to be no real hint of the outbreak, ie; the world was functioning normally... then he wakes up after the crash, and the outbreak looks like it has been happening for quite some time

You saw a bunch of police offers all going off to fight correct? There's that.

Then there is the fact that Lee was unconscious for about 3 days, so the apocolypse had time to start going nuts.

[Ja1862]

I never thought he was out cold for 3 days. I assumed 1 day since you saw the sun going down during one flash.

I assumed that by 3 days the characters meant the outbreak might have first started in places 3 days ago but the crap never hit the fan on a big scale till after Lee's crash.

Maybe Lee just never had any run in with the zombies (much like Night of the living dead it starts 3 days before the actual movie, but the main girl doesn't meet any zombies till the movie starts)

[Vainamoinen]

However quick the zombie apocalypse came, I assume it did not bring everything to a standstill immediately. After all, they still have electricity. Maybe some zombies were out on the streets already the night before or even days before. Maybe the driving police officer already had some reports about some "creeps on the street", but no one knew what to think of them. Lee however - as he was in custody - might never have heard a thing about the outbreak. Much is possible here!

[WabbitTwaks]

I believe it to be at least more than 1 day, if only because of the condition of everything. Clem's neighborhood is in too much of a mess. I think there would have been a lot more live people still around after only a day. The mention of Clem being alone for "days" also points to this.

[Chillforce]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

However quick the zombie apocalypse came, I assume it did not bring everything to a standstill immediately. After all, they still have electricity. Maybe some zombies were out on the streets already the night before or even days before. Maybe the driving police officer already had some reports about some "creeps on the street", but no one knew what to think of them. Lee however - as he was in custody - might never have heard a thing about the outbreak. Much is possible here!

I feel like the cop would have spoke to Lee about it if that were true.

Originally Posted by WabbitTwaks

I believe it to be at least more than 1 day, if only because of the condition of everything. Clem's neighborhood is in too much of a mess. I think there would have been a lot more live people still around after only a day. The mention of Clem being alone for "days" also points to this.

Everyone got infected at around the same time. It hit the cities harder than elsewhere because more populated areas means higher chance for death. Even if the rest of Clem's neighborhood didn't turn bad at the same time, just Sandra turning would be enough for her to sneak out to her treehouse and stay. She might not run to neighbors for help. Some cities or neighborhoods would be hit sooner than others. Stories of riots are often poorly reported and rarely well captured on film.

Lee spent at least a day unconscious after the crash. He was thirsty when he woke up. Unless you become thirsty when you bleed out...

[flava]

Originally Posted by WabbitTwaks

I think it comes down to how his son is involved in the two situations.

When he was trying to protect his son. That warrants shooting. No hesitation. Kill them before they kill Shawn.

Later, in the comic, his son has turned. In Hershel's mind, by some miracle his son is alive again. He thinks, "Maybe everyone else is just sick too?" So now he views anyone with the same "disease" as Shawn, as alive, and possibly curable. He believes, "If they can be cured, you shouldn't be killing them."

Right I get that, but when he's talking to Rick about the zombies in the barn, Rick's all "yeah I killed them because they tried to kill us" and Hershel responds with something like "you murderer, what if they can be cured I don't want their blood on my hands" which seems to be inconsistent with the no questions asked shot to the head in the game, surely he'd be understanding of what Rick did then. It's not really a big deal or anything and doesn't ruin my enjoyment and you could probably get there on a stretch I would've just preferred something like Hershel freezing and Lee shooting the zombies.

[WabbitTwaks]

I just don't see a father freezing in a situation where their child is being killed. Especially when that father has a shotgun in his hand.

[The_Ripper]

Originally Posted by WabbitTwaks

I just don't see a father freezing in a situation where their child is being killed. Especially when that father has a shotgun in his hand.

You are absolutely right.

Hershell, in the comic, speaks about killing the infected to cold blood. He was on his son's defense in the game.

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by The_Ripper

You are absolutely right.

Hershell, in the comic, speaks about killing the infected to cold blood. He was on his son's defense in the game.

Not to mention Hershal died against the Governor. He was fighting/shooting at ACTUAL people to protect his daughter Maggie and their new home.
I have zero clue what all he accompolished thereDid he kill anyone?, but you have to take that in consideration.

[flava]

Originally Posted by WabbitTwaks

I just don't see a father freezing in a situation where their child is being killed. Especially when that father has a shotgun in his hand.

Yeah you're probably right, I still think it's hypocritical and inconsistent of him to call Rick a murderer though and that he doesn't want their blood on his hands.

[WabbitTwaks]

Originally Posted by flava

Yeah you're probably right, I still think it's hypocritical and inconsistent of him to call Rick a murderer though and that he doesn't want their blood on his hands.

I agree completely, but stressful situations can make people behave mighty strangely.

[Milosuperspesh]

also if lee did keep everything his inventory would fill up rather quickly and he'd be weighed down with all the zombie killing tools wow that was a wierd merge...
sorry peeps

[Xirsche]

I agree with WabbitTwaks. Adrenaline, especially in a fight-or-flight situation such as a zombie apocalypse, can cause quite the mental collapse of even the most sharpest and sane of a cast of characters, given the level of escalation and how long it stockpiles. The anime Highschool of the Dead is a prime example of this, with many characters (they were background/extras anyhow, but eh..) would go downright insane within a few minutes to hours within the current ZA.

[Deadguy71]

Originally Posted by WabbitTwaks

Yeah. That certainly would be my reaction. lol

I find it interesting that later, when Herschel and Rick speak about killing walkers, Herschel reacts like killing them is a terrible thing. This is probably due to the emotional affect of Shawn's death though. Fickle damn people. Sure, everything changes when it's your kin on the line. Screw everyone else.

His son might not stay dead.. When/if he revives, Hershel will likely want to "cure him" and/or come to the conclusion that they could be cured. Everyone left the farm pretty quickly, we might not know.

Of course.. the guy is a veterinarian, he should know his son is actually dead.. so if he returns, that might make the cure concept a bit of a stretch... but he's lying to himself, and might suggest that there were signs of life too faint for him to detect.

[gamingafter40]

Originally Posted by Deadguy71

His son might not stay dead.. When/if he revives, Hershel will likely want to "cure him" and/or come to the conclusion that they could be cured. Everyone left the farm pretty quickly, we might not know.

It's established in the comics that Shawn IS one of the zombies Herschel is later keeping corraled in the barn -- in fact, Herschel still hopes for a cure when Rick meets him, and admonishes Shawn later on for attacking his own siblings. We leave pretty immediately after this incident, so maybe Herschel plans to bury him and then thinks better of it. Clearly he is strongly motivated to look for any sign of humanity or life remaining in his dead son.

I suspect that this scene is slightly inconsistent with the comics because it wouldn't "play" well for Lee and company to leave immediately without trying to help, or for Herschel to ignore his son while he tells them in no uncertain terms to go, if Shawn is obviously still alive.

Or Herschel only discovers this after everyone leaves, which would then be entirely consistent with the scene as written. Human beings make bad assumptions all the time, especially under emotional circumstances, and dying a few days later is not necessarily inconsistent with being unconscious and bleeding heavily immediately after the attack.

[ADavidson]

Originally Posted by gamingafter40

It's established in the comics that Shawn IS one of the zombies Herschel is later keeping corraled in the barn -- in fact, Herschel still hopes for a cure when Rick meets him, and admonishes Shawn later on for attacking his own siblings. We leave pretty immediately after this incident, so maybe Herschel plans to bury him and then thinks better of it. Clearly he is strongly motivated to look for any sign of humanity or life remaining in his dead son.

I suspect that this scene is slightly inconsistent with the comics because it wouldn't "play" well for Lee and company to leave immediately without trying to help, or for Herschel to ignore his son while he tells them in no uncertain terms to go, if Shawn is obviously still alive.

Or Herschel only discovers this after everyone leaves, which would then be entirely consistent with the scene as written. Human beings make bad assumptions all the time, especially under emotional circumstances, and dying a few days later is not necessarily inconsistent with being unconscious and bleeding heavily immediately after the attack.

Exactly what happened. Shawn passed out, wakes up 20min later, they take care of him in the house but the poison kills him and then he's put in the barn. Exactly what I was thinking and explains everything

[Barnabas]

One thing that I find surprisng is the fact that Irene's door at the motel is blocked from the outside with a wood plank.

The plank seems to be nailed to both the wall and the door, so that Lee has to break it with the axe before the door can be opened.

So, the first question is Who trapped Irene in the motel room?

and the second question why is Lee asking her to open up if he can see that door is blocked from his side?

Great game BTW

[ADavidson]

Yeah I was wondering that too. Maybe she had someone with her who wasn't bitten nail the door. I'm pretty sure she also had the door locked from the inside tho to answer your 2nd question