Why I am dissappointed with the Episode-Model

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Giant Fro for Lee 80 points
Energy Drink to drink regardless of effects 80 points
Lees Senator killer Shirt 80 points
Larry's Military uniform 80 points
Lily Aviator Jacket and Sunglasses 80 points
Glenn ninja/samurai outfit- 80 points
Clementine body armor -80 points
Ducks cowboy outfit- 80 points
Carley Yellow April O'Neill jumpsuit-80 points
Doug Sam and Max tshirt glasses and khakis-80 points

I could go on

Highschool or College Tomboy outfit for Lilly - $9.99
Two-Piece Bikini and Cowgirl Hat for Carly* - $4.99
Weighted Suit of Armor for Clementine** - $9.99
Disco Jacket for Lee - $4.99
Lumberjack outfit for Larry - $4.99
TF2 Scout outfit for Glenn - $4.99
TF2 Engineer outfit for Doug - $4.99
Hershel Disguise mask for Kenny - $4.99

I can just see it. xD

*Oneechanbara FTW!
**Yes, I'm thinking of RE4's Ashley Graham and her knight costume. xD

Originally Posted by eblocksonian

I that's a fair point, but I actually think the model hurt some of Telltale's games. I thought Jurassic Park AND BTTF were very underwhelming. It just didn't fit with the Episodic Model very well.

But the episodic model actually fits with The Walking Dead. Like some others said before in other posts, TWD is an episodic series..we have volumes that come out weekly-monthly for the comics, weekly episodes for the TV show, and now monthly episodes for the game. Fans have to bear the burden of waiting for ALL of these come out just to see what comes out next. So I'm not complaining with this, it even gives the developers room and time to develop and debug.

[puzzlebox]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

But the episodic model actually fits with The Walking Dead.
[...]
I'm not complaining with this, it even gives the developers room and time to develop and debug.

One of the greatest things is that sometimes you actually see fan feedback implemented in later episodes. In Tales of Monkey Island for example, Winslow was originally planned to be a relatively unimportant character, but was given an expanded role after people went nuts for him in the first episode. It's pretty awesome to see players influencing the game in ways like that.

[gamingafter40]

Originally Posted by eblocksonian

I that's a fair point, but I actually think the model hurt some of Telltale's games. I thought Jurassic Park AND BTTF were very underwhelming. It just didn't fit with the Episodic Model very well.

I would agree with you on Jurassic Park (definitely not among the "Almost all" I was thinking of) -- and I wonder if there would have been more exploration and true interactivity in later episodes, had there been opportunity to receive and respond to feedback on the first. Releasing as a one-shot package eliminated many of the advantages of the episodic model. But I think The Walking Dead makes much more appropriate use of the QTE experience gained on JP, so it wasn't a total waste.

I gather I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the BTTF game -- I hadn't seen any of the movies before playing the game, so it's possible I just enjoyed being introduced to the story's universe and didn't mind the straightforward gameplay. (Obviously I was familiar with the concept and characters -- one of those pop-culture things you can't really avoid absorbing, even without exposure to the source!)

[eblocksonian]

Originally Posted by gamingafter40

I would agree with you on Jurassic Park (definitely not among the "Almost all" I was thinking of) -- and I wonder if there would have been more exploration and true interactivity in later episodes, had there been opportunity to receive and respond to feedback on the first. Releasing as a one-shot package eliminated many of the advantages of the episodic model. But I think The Walking Dead makes much more appropriate use of the QTE experience gained on JP, so it wasn't a total waste.

I gather I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the BTTF game -- I hadn't seen any of the movies before playing the game, so it's possible I just enjoyed being introduced to the story's universe and didn't mind the straightforward gameplay. (Obviously I was familiar with the concept and characters -- one of those pop-culture things you can't really avoid absorbing, even without exposure to the source!)

I liked the BTTF game, but I didn't think it didn't reach its full potential, obviously.

Originally Posted by Xirsche

But the episodic model actually fits with The Walking Dead. Like some others said before in other posts, TWD is an episodic series..we have volumes that come out weekly-monthly for the comics, weekly episodes for the TV show, and now monthly episodes for the game. Fans have to bear the burden of waiting for ALL of these come out just to see what comes out next. So I'm not complaining with this, it even gives the developers room and time to develop and debug.

...you didn't read my previous posts, did you? That's what I said. Quoting myself:

Originally Posted by eblocksonian

What are you talking about?

In any case, I will say this: I dislike Episodic Gaming, but not enough to be angry at Telltale Games, but I am annoyed by it. That being said, Walking Dead is MADE for Episodic Gaming... because IT IS ALREADY EPISODIC. I repeat... IT IS ALREADY EPISODIC. TV Shows? EPISODIC. Comic Book Series? EPISODIC.

It FITS. For once it's FEATURE of the series, not just Telltale Games trying to convert it to an Episodic Series.

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

Highschool or College Tomboy outfit for Lilly - $9.99
Two-Piece Bikini and Cowgirl Hat for Carly* - $4.99
Weighted Suit of Armor for Clementine** - $9.99
Disco Jacket for Lee - $4.99
Lumberjack outfit for Larry - $4.99
TF2 Scout outfit for Glenn - $4.99
TF2 Engineer outfit for Doug - $4.99
Hershel Disguise mask for Kenny - $4.99

I can just see it. xD

*Oneechanbara FTW!
**Yes, I'm thinking of RE4's Ashley Graham and her knight costume. xD

Thats exactly what i was thinking when you said armor too. when i said armor i thought about it but then i mentally shifted to zombie proof armor.


Sybil Pandemik Skin for Carley
Flint Paper Skin for Larry
Orange jumpsuit for Lee

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Thats exactly what i was thinking when you said armor too. when i said armor i thought about it but then i mentally shifted to zombie proof armor.


Sybil Pandemik Skin for Carley
Flint Paper Skin for Larry
Orange jumpsuit for Lee

Lol zombie-proof armor is exactly what I mean by that. In RE4, Ashley's armor makes her freakin' invincible to anything! She can't be lifted by the enemy and carried off, or bullets or even explosions work on her..and if a freaking grenade won't do the trick, I sincerely doubt a zombie will hold a dime to it.

BTW, Capn, just for trolling sake, what if there was a doctored picture of Larry and Lee, both in orange prison suits, with Larry looking over Lee's shoulder with a smug grin on his face, and Lee looking back like "Oh HELL naw!"? I'd die laughing my lungs out!

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

Lol zombie-proof armor is exactly what I mean by that. In RE4, Ashley's armor makes her freakin' invincible to anything! She can't be lifted by the enemy and carried off, or bullets or even explosions work on her..and if a freaking grenade won't do the trick, I sincerely doubt a zombie will hold a dime to it.

BTW, Capn, just for trolling sake, what if there was a doctored picture of Larry and Lee, both in orange prison suits, with Larry looking over Lee's shoulder with a smug grin on his face, and Lee looking back like "Oh HELL naw!"? I'd die laughing my lungs out!

Larry: I'm watching you murderer.
Lee: You got yourself thrown in jail just so you could watch me?
Larry makes the im watching you gesture.
Lee: Son of a *Bleep*

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Larry: I'm watching you murderer.
Lee: You got yourself thrown in jail just so you could watch me?
Larry makes the im watching you gesture.
Lee: Son of a *Bleep*

Larry: I'll make sure you don't so much as THINK of my daughter.
Lee: And I'll make sure to throw any keys to any pharmacies we come across out into Walker-land and keep you from recovering!
Larry: You sunuva--
Glenn: You like egg salad? I found it in one of those, er..zombified buffets.
Lee & Larry: ...

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

Larry: I'll make sure you don't so much as THINK of my daughter.
Lee: And I'll make sure to throw any keys to any pharmacies we come across out into Walker-land and keep you from recovering!
Larry: You sunuva--
Glenn: You like egg salad? I found it in one of those, er..zombified buffets.
Lee & Larry: ...

The idea of Glenn just randomly popping in tickles me. I keep imagine him popping into view from impossible angles desperate for a little bit more screen time

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

The idea of Glenn just randomly popping in tickles me. I keep imagine him popping into view from impossible angles desperate for a little bit more screen time

Yeah, that's hilarious. I'd even find it funny if Glenn popped out from behind Larry or, to *BLEEP* Larry off, Lilly's shirt or something..'course if that happened, Maggie would NOT be happy. :P

[jimbow86]

I am 61 ,I never waited 5 Month to play a game . I will never do this again...............

[Vainamoinen]

Good news then. You will probably only have to wait 4 months, and almost three weeks of the first are already over.

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

Yeah, that's hilarious. I'd even find it funny if Glenn popped out from behind Larry or, to *BLEEP* Larry off, Lilly's shirt or something..'course if that happened, Maggie would NOT be happy. :P

Glenn's head just sticking out of Lily's Cleavage
Glenn: Did Somebody call me?

Lee hears a rattling in a rattling in a drier at a laundromat that has power for some reason he opens the door and Glenn sticks his head out
Glenn: Hey Guys!

They break into an abandoned house

Kenny : Lee check the cabinets for anything we can use to bandage Larry's leg
Lee checks the first cabinet
Lee:Nothing in here
Lee checks the second cabinet
Lee: Nothing in here
Lee checks the third cabinet:
Glenn sticks his head out
Glenn: Hey Guys!

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by eblocksonian

I that's a fair point, but I actually think the model hurt some of Telltale's games. I thought Jurassic Park AND BTTF were very underwhelming. It just didn't fit with the Episodic Model very well.

Jurassic Park wasn't episodic, it was released all at once.

And BTTF was poor not because of the episodic model, but because telltale thought it smart to dumb the game down to preschool level for newbies(It wasn't smart at all).

[TheCena2]

Developing video games takes a long time.

[Antioche]

Had you known it was so episodical; with release dates as ephemeral as the tax returns of most 1%ers in the U.S. ?

My answer : Absolutely not.

I have a tendency to be a fan-boy however; & the very HINT of a Walking dead game got me to not only purchase it; but as "head" ( heheh) of the zombie-preparation team in my area; had me purchase SEVERAL copies for friends and the like who I know enjoy the genre as well as the show.

Poorly done Telltale.

From what I read; I suspect you are pulling a "Lost" writers' convention; & actually writing/releasing the episodes according to viewer feedback on the forums.

("We didn't know what the smoke monster really was..we just paid attention to the forums and made sure it was NOT what most people claimed they thought!..")

Would never have bought the game had I known it had a tw-hour playthrough ( with inturrupting phone calls ) & that our releases for further episodes were going to be so long in coming.

Won't make that mistake again with your company.

[Lars80]

Yes i would have.
Hell i would have paid 25$ for each episode to.

Why?
I love zombies. I love The walking dead. And this is a good zombie game. Doesnt happen to often.

But ya, i might wait untill all episodes are released to play further....

[cormoran]

My answer: Yes.

It's funny you say at the very HINT of a zombie game you went out and bought several copies. So much like the beginning of "Shaun of the Dead" you mindlessly zombified your way through the purchase, not caring to do the human thing and actually think.

A cursory examination of telltales site shows that all its games are episodic, if you bought it off steam, its page gives you all the information necessary.

So really, poorly done you.

The mistake you really shouldn't be making again is not doing any research on what you're buying before you buy it.

As for the wait, do you get "the Walking Dead" comics or did you complain about their episodic nature and refuse to 'make that mistake again'?

Sorry for the little rant and all but I think you're being very unfair to telltale in your complaint, blaming them for something you were responsible for. Welcome to the forums!

[John Schutze]

Originally Posted by Lars80

Yes i would have.
Hell i would have paid 25$ for each episode to.

Why?
I love zombies. I love The walking dead. And this is a good zombie game. Doesnt happen to often.

But ya, i might wait untill all episodes are released to play further....

Me too buddy!

Honestly, I'm 100% satisfied with my purchase and the game itself.
Sure, it could have 10000 episodes, and they could be twice in a week....
But I'm happy anyway!

[Antioche]

Oh, I did read the pages provided about the game during it's pre-releae on steam; & tbh it worried me the lack of developer input on the actual timetable of the game's release even then... It didn't stop me from dumping cash on the game prior to it's release however.

I agree with your conclusion; & havn't tried to refute... it was 'my bad'.

I also stand by my impression that it is an unimpressive business model to follow.

Combine this with the most informative thread on the subject being a fan-based poll about the suspected releae date of the next episode....

I & everyone else I personally speak to about it agrees; we won't support such in the future. It's no disrespect; it's a matter of consumer-taste.