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Old 07/03/2012, 05:28 am   #1
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I'm reading this forum for several days now and i'm missing one specific topic.
Actually i'm quite surprised no one ever mentioned this before (or i was too blind to see).

Isn't it a bit weird that as long as ur head is still intact, people will turn into a walker anyway??? I mean, getting bitten would be enough reason right?
Why did the author make it look as a 'condition' that everybody (bitten or not) suffers from? like an airborn virus? or what? weird!!! (i think)

I really love the game, but this thing kind of spoiled the story a tiny little bit for me, and i wonder who has an opinion about this theory...

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Old 07/03/2012, 05:30 am   #2
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Welcome to the boards.. This is in the books.. Its also a big part of other zombie franchises as well... You die you rise.
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Old 07/03/2012, 05:35 am   #3
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The comics did the exact same thing and the games go off the comics.

Zombies are a much bigger threat this way because you can never wipe them out this way. Even if somehow every zombie was killed so no one can get bitten, they are still rising and still a threat.
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Old 07/03/2012, 05:42 am   #4
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Hi People!

I'm reading this forum for several days now and i'm missing one specific topic.
Actually i'm quite surprised no one ever mentioned this before (or i was too blind to see).

Isn't it a bit weird that as long as ur head is still intact, people will turn into a walker anyway??? I mean, getting bitten would be enough reason right?
Why did the author make it look as a 'condition' that everybody (bitten or not) suffers from? like an airborn virus? or what? weird!!! (i think)

I really love the game, but this thing kind of spoiled the story a tiny little bit for me, and i wonder who has an opinion about this theory...

Please post ur replies!

The Walking Dead zombies seem to be based from George A Romero's Night of the living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead etc

And in those films however you die you come back, the bite is just like getting bit by any germ filled human, it will kill you but it is not the thing that turns you.
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Old 07/03/2012, 05:52 am   #5
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ah that explains... didn't read the comics yet...

thanks for posting.. i will still enjoy the game of course!!!!
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Old 07/03/2012, 06:11 am   #6
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The zombie bite is supposed to be more like a poison, one that you can't survive (unlike human bites which can be lethal, you can still survive them, possibly get very sick in the process).

But yeah, it's in the books/show/and it's also in a lot of other Zombie Universe's
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Old 07/03/2012, 07:31 am   #7
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Yeah - zombie bites probably infect the wound the way a dog with rabies would make one seriously sick.

I guess this is a little different from the previous zombie films because the infection in this world affects everyone and it lies dormant until they die.
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Old 07/03/2012, 07:52 am   #8
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have you not noticed that everyone is infected in most zombie movies?

go back and watch any old romero film; you don't need to be bitten to turn into a zombie.
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Old 07/03/2012, 07:58 am   #9
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To be fair, those are the most boring zombies ever.

There's no evolution, and you can't get to see people actually becoming living corpses, they just die and then nothing they're just moving shit that get shot in the head.

It would have been more interesting to see them transforming, to see the need for "blood" rise within them, their bodies "melting" (the fly - style), or to have walkers in better shape if they feed regularly, or maybe even get somehow smarter...

I don't know, it's a little too simple and we can only thank the writers for coming up with interesting living characters. I honestly think the "zombie" part is just easy.
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Old 07/03/2012, 08:03 am   #10
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To be fair, those are the most boring zombies ever.

There's no evolution, and you can't get to see people actually becoming living corpses, they just die and then nothing they're just moving shit that get shot in the head.

It would have been more interesting to see them transforming, to see the need for "blood" rise within them, their bodies "melting" (the fly - style), or to have walkers in better shape if they feed regularly, or maybe even get somehow smarter...

I don't know, it's a little too simple and we can only thank the writers for coming up with interesting living characters. I honestly think the "zombie" part is just easy.
so basically, you dont want the game to be about zombies at all.
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Old 07/03/2012, 08:06 am   #11
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alot of people spoiled that since episode one because they read the comics
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Old 07/03/2012, 09:06 am   #12
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alot of people spoiled that since episode one because they read the comics
or watch the TV show. second season was ended when Rick recognizes that everyone already infected.
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Old 07/03/2012, 09:06 am   #13
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Hi People!

I'm reading this forum for several days now and i'm missing one specific topic.
Actually i'm quite surprised no one ever mentioned this before (or i was too blind to see).

Isn't it a bit weird that as long as ur head is still intact, people will turn into a walker anyway??? I mean, getting bitten would be enough reason right?
Why did the author make it look as a 'condition' that everybody (bitten or not) suffers from? like an airborn virus? or what? weird!!! (i think)

I really love the game, but this thing kind of spoiled the story a tiny little bit for me, and i wonder who has an opinion about this theory...

Please post ur replies!
If you grew up before Chicken Pox vaccines were available like I was then you still have the virus inside your body (assuming you got infected).

EDIT: If my understanding of Tuberculosis is correct, most people can live their whole life with Tuberculosis in them without developing the active disease. The World Health Organization estimates 1/3 of the worlds population to have latent (carriers but currently asymptomatic and not transmitting) TB. The whole everyone is infected plot device doesn't seem that far fetched to me.

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Old 07/03/2012, 09:30 am   #14
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To be fair, those are the most boring zombies ever.

There's no evolution, and you can't get to see people actually becoming living corpses, they just die and then nothing they're just moving shit that get shot in the head.

It would have been more interesting to see them transforming, to see the need for "blood" rise within them, their bodies "melting" (the fly - style), or to have walkers in better shape if they feed regularly, or maybe even get somehow smarter...

I don't know, it's a little too simple and we can only thank the writers for coming up with interesting living characters. I honestly think the "zombie" part is just easy.
Actually, that's been done to death too in other zombie formats, and once you see the transformation once it gets old hat, you still end up with the same old zombos walking around going "unngh!" and when you get to the fifth bit person you'll get people just wanting to shoot them there and then to avoid the tedium of another angst-filled zombification.

What would be more interesting is if they played on the zombie need to eat: if instead of just being constantly hungry they are actually hungry because they need to store food for some sort of metamorphosis into some sort of uber-zombie (the zombie itself wouldn't know this, it would just know that it was hungry like any other zombie until it ate enough to cocoon up), or that the zombie just gets more powerful the more it eats, or it's unknowingly feeding some other creature gestating inside it. THAT would be zombie evolution!
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Old 07/03/2012, 09:46 am   #15
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The game is based of the comics, and the disease or virus or plague or whatever you want to call it is "airborne" or whatever you want to call it in the comics. It's "airborne" in a lot of zombie stories/movies, like George A. Romero's classic flicks!

No one knows what causes it yet (in the comics), just that when people die, they come back, whether they were biten or not!

"We ARE the walking dead!" The best quote from The Walking Dead comics! You should really read them!
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honestly the walking dead is less outbreak and more torchwood miracle day [even though it was made first]
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Old 07/03/2012, 11:51 am   #17
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I don't get why the bite turns you. If you are already infected, why do you turn from a non-lethal bite?
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Old 07/03/2012, 12:01 pm   #18
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I don't get why the bite turns you. If you are already infected, why do you turn from a non-lethal bite?
zombie bites ARE 100% lethal. If you get bitten, you die. That's the whole reason why people thought zombie bites were what turned you before finding out that people come back no matter how they die.
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I don't get why the bite turns you. If you are already infected, why do you turn from a non-lethal bite?
All zombie bites are lethal, the bite acts as a poison and kills the victim. Yet everyone is infected already, so even if they commit suicide they will become a zombie.
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I don't get why the bite turns you. If you are already infected, why do you turn from a non-lethal bite?
Yeah, That's also my point, why i started this topic...

Seems like all u guys read the comics (i'm going read them too).
and u just accepted this theory, but somehow i find it difficult to accept.

The walking dead theory/story is so right, and really thought about.
that's why i like it so much... how the world will look like, how people will behave, even the zombie thing is quite 'reaslistic', as far as you can call it 'reaslistic' of course...

But the fact that everybody is already infected, bitten or not, is bugging me still...

why?

airborn virus: ok, you can get sick like a flu or colds, virus goes in ur bloodstream and u get sick turn into zombie... (that's what i'd expect)

Bitten = virus in ur bloodstream, u get sick turn into zombie...

What's the difference? It doesn't make sence.. Why do u have 2 ways to be 'infected'...

let me rephrase my point:

How is it biological possible the same virus you contracted through air, is in a 'slumbering' state, and when it's oral transmitted it's in 'active' state?

unless there are 2 different virusses, but that's just a stupid thought... right???

can someone give me a good explanation, i can live with??? it's really bothering me...
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