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Old 09/12/2012, 03:26 pm   #801
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Since Lilly started killing people, i'd say neither character is well liked anymore. I mean, didn't most people leave her on the road?
No, actually, I think most people took her with them. It wasn't much of a majority though; maybe 55 or 60%.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:27 pm   #802
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Also what evidence is there for Katjaa not liking Kenny anymore? Caus I couldn't find any.
It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.

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No, actually, I think most people took her with them. It wasn't much of a majority though; maybe 55 or 60%.
There are a few polls on the forum that seem to indicate otherwise. Wait for the episode statistics prior to the next release.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:30 pm   #803
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It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.
It's a combination of her facial expressions, comments and attitude as a whole. She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:32 pm   #804
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She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
Of course not, but she's not happy about having to carry a gun or sewing up people or what her son has been exposed to either. She very definitely doesn't think her husband is some sort of monster.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:35 pm   #805
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I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:39 pm   #806
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I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
When I told her what happened in the meat locker she had a very sad/disappointed look about her and let out a gasp in shock. Then slowly turned and walked away that's when she said everything is changing so fast.

I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:42 pm   #807
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I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
Ya Im thinking something about 'killing her only child' is more the reason
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Old 09/12/2012, 03:55 pm   #808
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My philosophy with Kenny was that I'd rather be with someone you think is a bitch than become your little bitch. Before episode 3 I had hoped Lee would get the chance to knock him out but fate gave him a bigger and crueler blow than any my Lee could of landed, so I talked him down. I'm more apathetic towards him now. If he wants to leave I wont stop him but I wont let him die either. You don't need to be best buds with someone to save their life Kenny.
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I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.
She didn't like what any of them were becoming.

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She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
That had nothing to do with being able to cope. That was a mother loving her son more than life and making the choice to leave with him.
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Her son is not the only reason. Morgan loses his son, as well as many other people, but they don't all commit suicide.

She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.
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She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.
Because of her son.

It's not a cookie cutter universe, not every character is going to react the same way with the same motivations. While there are always mitigating circumstances, tainting Katjaa's affection for Kenny is presumptuous.
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Old 09/12/2012, 04:18 pm   #812
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How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny. I'm not saying she doesn't love him, but that doesn't mean she likes what he's turning into.
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Her son is not the only reason. Morgan loses his son, as well as many other people, but they don't all commit suicide.

She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.
Kenny and Kat had a strong, healthy marriage eh?

'My son's dead...all I have left is (looks over at Kenny)...*blam*
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How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny.
I already agreed that she didn't like what any of them were turning into, herself included. If anyone put distance in their relationship it was Kenny for not telling her himself, but even that is my presumption. There is no indication that Katjaa killed herself because of Kenny or what he had done, because that would only hold true so long as you told her what happened in the meat locker and not everyone did.
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Old 09/12/2012, 04:31 pm   #815
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Playing through my 'Asshole Lee' save I noticed a pattern seemed to be emerging with the decisions I was making being some way related to ol' Kenster. A fair few of the bad or negative choices usually either agree with Kenny or benefit him somehow.

And the strangest part was I actually liked him a lot more.

It's a shame that with Kenny you're either his best friend or his worst enemy. His relationship seems to be too black and white with no middle ground. I'm sure (and I hope) that it will change after the incidents in Episode 3, because I have to admit I've really warmed to the fella.
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Old 09/12/2012, 04:33 pm   #816
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Kenny and Kat had a strong, healthy marriage eh?

'My son's dead...all I have left is (looks over at Kenny)...*blam*
LOL

"Hey, Lee. Kat didn't kill herself because I was all she had left right? C'mon Lee, you gotta back me up on this one"!
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Kenny totally lost me in the second episode. At the moment I'm reading Rise of the Governor and the Governor himself is a more likable guy.
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Kenny totally lost me in the second episode. At the moment I'm reading Rise of the Governor and the Governor himself is a more likable guy.
I agree with the second episode bit there.

I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.

I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.
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Old 09/12/2012, 04:40 pm   #819
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I agree with the second episode bit there.

I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.

I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.
I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
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Almost rewound on that part during my canon save, but I decided from the start I'd stick with my choices no matter what. The part where she breaks free and hugs her father is still kind of painful to see.
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