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Old 07/11/2012, 02:18 pm   #21
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There's so many of these acts in the work, it's very had to keep giving a crap.
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Old 07/11/2012, 04:49 pm   #22
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Fortune Magazine just published (today) an article on Kim Dotcom and copyrights that I think summarizes the situation pretty well. It doesn't mention ACTA or any other treaties, as it's written from a mostly-U.S. viewpoint, though you can extrapolate from that. It's a feature article, so it's a bit long, but interesting.

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Old 07/11/2012, 07:44 pm   #23
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The problem with having laws like this is that government from other countries can use them against the people from your country.

This is true. The thing is, you would have to be breaking these laws in such an extreme that it would be worth their time and money to deal with you. If you are(general statement), watch your ass.

Edit: I decided to address the first reply as well. Okay, no, I was not trying to come of as defensive or angry. I re-read it and yeah, it does read that way. I was just rambling the various thoughts on the matter before heading out to work. The stereotyping was on purpose(narrowed down to a specific ignorant demographic, which exist in every country throughout the first world where media is readily available) and I hope was clearly done so, I'm not that big of an asshole. Some people are raised on TV. Bad parenting isn't isolated to any region of the world. I hope that part is cleared up. I do see what you're saying and I'm not disagreeing with the principle. It is opening doors for all types of new legislation, power and action.

My point, which I could have been more clear about, is that people, generally, tend to use past experience as a variable in decision making. Most Canadians have not had any bad experiences in regards to copyright law, nor is it even prominent in our media. While I do not agree with this legislation and would do what I could to stop it, most people wouldn't see how anything new in this regard would affect them as nothing has so far. They could prove me wrong, but I just don't see any of this causing as big of an outcry here as in other countries because of this.

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I believe that this is what they're counting on. If we don't fight each attempt, one of them will slip by and then they'll have us.
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I don't disagree with anything you have said, except for your statement that I was speaking in generalizations. I was was trying to say that any individual is susceptible to it, regardless of where they are from.
Okay, in that case, I misconstrued your point and we are apparently in complete agreement.

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I believe that this is what they're counting on. If we don't fight each attempt, one of them will slip by and then they'll have us.
Yeah, I was about to post this. I'm counting on organizations like Avaaz to keep a watchful eye out for anything that threatens to give too much power to people who can't handle it though.

...and if all else fails, I'll just flee to Antarctica.
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