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Old 07/12/2012, 07:56 am   #1
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I can not believe no one has posted about this yet. I seriously believe that Jolene was Clementine's mother. Firstly, she had Clementine's hat inside her tent, secondly at the end of episode two she was focusing on filming Clementine. Now, it could be coincidences, but at the camp when lee and the cannibal confronted her, if you choice the "Where did you get this hat?" dialog option, this is what she says.

Lee: "Where did you get this hat?"
Jolene: "The little girl."
Lee: "You STOLE it from her."
Jolene: "So what if I did? You stole her from ME!!!"

You can also check it on video, skip to 7:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NzqPPhCvA

So, the cannibal (can't remember his name :P) actually (if its true) shot Clementine's mother. You still think the bastard deserved to live at the end of episode 2, and do you think my theory is correct?

EDIT: Actually slash what I said, her real mother is named Diana, http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Diana, but this gave me another theory, do you think it was Clementine's mothers sister? Maybe her cousin? That would explain the You stole her from me part. It could also be her babysitter, who says the zombie in episode 1 'was' the baby sitter? She could also have a secret big sister that ran away/moved, and thus was not in the family picture? I know Jolene is related to Clementine in some way. What do you think?

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Old 07/12/2012, 08:00 am   #2
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Ummm.. There was a picture of Clem's mom at Clem's house. She looked nothing like Jolene so I'm gonna say... NOPE!
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That was my first though to. But apparently Jolenes daughter was kidnapped, raped and murdered. And after that she flipped and wanted to "adopt" Clementine.
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Ummm.. There was a picture of Clem's mom at Clem's house. She looked nothing like Jolene so I'm gonna say... NOPE!
Yeah, just found that out before you posted, edited my thread. :P
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Old 07/12/2012, 08:03 am   #5
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That was my first though to. But apparently Jolenes daughter was kidnapped, raped and murdered. And after that she flipped and wanted to "adopt" Clementine.
Well, she could be her mothers sister, that had a kid too, but she lost it, she then went crazy, and wanted to adopt Clementine because of the family relation. Cause, they is also Duck, why not take him? Why exactly Clementine.
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Nah. Clementine's parents were in Savannah when the whole thing happened, remember? Also, compare:



Most likely, Jolene went mad when her own child died, and it probably was taken away by either the bandits or the cannibals. In her confused mind, she started to stalk and adore a child she saw at the motel, wishing for her to be her lost daughter so much that she eventually believed it. She stole Clem's hat as a memento, to be near her.

Clementine has never seen Jolene in her life. Well, maybe at Save Lots.
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Old 07/12/2012, 08:06 am   #7
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I can not believe no one has posted about this yet. I seriously believe that Jolene was Clementine's mother. Firstly, she had Clementine's hat inside her tent, secondly at the end of episode two she was focusing on filming Clementine. Now, it could be coincidences, but at the camp when lee and the cannibal confronted her, if you choice the "Where did you get this hat?" dialog option, this is what she says.

Lee: "Where did you get this hat?"
Jolene: "The little girl."
Lee: "You STOLE it from her."
Jolene: "So what if I did? You stole her from ME!!!"

You can also check it on video, skip to 7:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NzqPPhCvA

So, the cannibal (can't remember his name :P) actually (if its true) shot Clementine's mother. You still think the bastard deserved to live at the end of episode 2, and do you think my theory is correct?

EDIT: Actually slash what I said, her real mother is named Diana, http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Diana, but this game me another theory, do you think it was Clementine's mothers sister? Maybe her cousin? That would explain the You stole her from me part. It could also be her babysitter, who says the zombie in episode 1 'was' the baby sitter? She could also have a secret big sister that ran away/moved, and thus was not in the family picture? I know Jolene is related to Clementine in some way. What do you think?
No, it's made perfectly clear that she's gone crazy due to the Bandits abducting and raping her Real daughter... She's just delusional.
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Old 07/12/2012, 08:07 am   #8
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Most likely, Jolene went mad when her own child died
This is the second time that someone has said that Jolene's daughter was dead. Was this confirmed and I missed it?
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I say "likely". If she was taken by the cannibals, she was eaten; if there was some incident with the bandits, her death is even more likely. Anything BUT her gruesome death would have left Jolene with the slight bit of hope that might have saved her mental state.

Did they really hint at her DAUGHTER being raped? I thought that happened to Jolene herself...
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Old 07/12/2012, 08:15 am   #10
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I say "likely". If she was taken by the cannibals, she was eaten; if there was some incident with the bandits, her death is even more likely. Anything BUT her gruesome death would have left Jolene with the slight bit of hope that might have saved her mental state.

Did they really hint at her DAUGHTER being raped? I thought that happened to Jolene herself...
If you let it play out W/O shooting her, and add what she says to her remarks in the camcorder, it's highly likely... Why would they take her out into the woods, just to kill her? Especially considering Jolene was apart of their group until that moment...
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I say "likely". If she was taken by the cannibals, she was eaten; if there was some incident with the bandits, her death is even more likely. Anything BUT her gruesome death would have left Jolene with the slight bit of hope that might have saved her mental state.

Did they really hint at her DAUGHTER being raped? I thought that happened to Jolene herself...
When Jolene finds Lee and Danny at the camp, she says that "anybody can take a can of beans, supplies, or even a girl, everything's the same." Also, she says that "all men are monsters." I can't seem to find direct quotes from the game that implied that her daughter was raped. I just took it on thought.
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Old 07/12/2012, 09:56 am   #12
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jolene is not related to diana/clem mom at all

imo she was a savelots employee who was camping with her daughter (not clem) in the woods everything was fine till the bandits found her the took her daughter had fun with her (possible rape, she ran away got turned or eaten by the st johns.

she was attacked by the bandits was spying on the st johns and lee's group and she goes crazy clem being a young girl reignites her maternal instinct too which she SOMEHOW steals clems cap...(how the smeg she pull that off?)
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It's pretty evident Jolenes daughter was killed at the camp... Don't you remember the bloodstained bunny and photograph
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Old 07/12/2012, 10:50 am   #14
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Lee: "Where did you get this hat?"
Jolene: "The little girl."
Lee: "You STOLE it from her."
Jolene: "So what if I did? You stole her from ME!!!
How can you think this is in any way? You must have a very short term memory if you ever think of Jolene being related to Clementine.
First off, it is clear that Jolene went crazy and lost her girl. With "YOU" she means all men there in general. That's why she says all man are monsters etc she went crazy.

Second, there is a picture of Jolene+daughter in the tent, it looks nothing like Clementine.

Third, at Clementines house you heard the voicemails. Her mother is called Diana and it has a totally different voice/accent.

Fourth, Clementine told you that her mom is a doctor when you asked about her parents. Jolene is a Savelots-employee (she even wears the uniform as you talk to her).

Sixth, it is obvious that Jolene stalks Clementine because she is a small girl nearly the same age as her lost daughter, as you see on the tape at the end.

Pretty much everything in the game speaks against Jolene knowing Clementine.
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Old 07/12/2012, 10:57 am   #15
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Nah. Clementine's parents were in Savannah when the whole thing happened, remember? Also, compare:

How did you make that screenshot? I can't get such a clean view of the picture myself. That was the best view I could see.
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Nah. Clementine's parents were in Savannah when the whole thing happened, remember? Also, compare:



Most likely, Jolene went mad when her own child died, and it probably was taken away by either the bandits or the cannibals. In her confused mind, she started to stalk and adore a child she saw at the motel, wishing for her to be her lost daughter so much that she eventually believed it. She stole Clem's hat as a memento, to be near her.

Clementine has never seen Jolene in her life. Well, maybe at Save Lots.
That's a Afro family.

Brotha man got him a nice thick light skinned woman. They got they a nice light skinned child that can pass.

They were living the American dream

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How did you make that screenshot? I can't get such a clean view of the picture myself. That was the best view I could see.
Google search "Walking Dead Clementine's parents". That was all.
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Old 07/12/2012, 11:11 am   #18
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Her daddy looks like OJ Simpson Juice baby!!

I don't see her mom being Asian.....She Black Half or less maybe, but how many Asians have Kinky hair
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Her daddy looks like OJ Simpson Juice baby!!

I don't see her mom being Asian.....She Black Half or less maybe, but how many Asians have Kinky hair
That's what I'm saying.

Clem mentions her hair on Hershel's farm, when talking to Kenny's wife
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That's what I'm saying.

Clem mentions her hair on Hershel's farm, when talking to Kenny's wife
I have black friends who say "black people that are not mixed and have light skin pigmentation... They called Red-bone"

But hispanic is also plausible

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