Cannibalism. Another way to survive.

[Lars80]

Perhaps the 2 brothers were smart and better at surviving than others. How long are you going to starve, before you start eating other people?

[Death689God]

I never blamed them for deals with Bandits or Cannibalism... But harming MY People, that was going too far in my book. But my Lee has a new Rule of "No killing your Own" now, so it'd have to be someone else... But MOST people view Cannibalism as the 2nd worse crime.
(1rst being Sex Crimes: Like child molesting and rape)

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by Death689God

I never blamed them for deals with Bandits or Cannibalism... But harming MY People, that was going too far in my book. But my Lee has a new Rule of "No killing your Own" now, so it'd have to be someone else... But MOST people view Cannibalism as the 2nd worse crime.
(1rst being Sex Crimes: Like child molesting and rape)

I think hunger leads to cannibalism. It's been proven again and again.
But ya, as long as we are well fed, its not an option.

As for hurting my group. I decided in the meat locker. When i got the chanse, those brothers would get it. And ya, it was the easiest decisions i made in the game so far. Killing both of them.

[RAnthonyMahan]

Eh. I could forgive cannibalism if it was the only way you could survive.

Here's the thing, though. The St. Johns were on a goddamned farm. It was established they had milk, butter, bread, cheese, and vegetables. They clearly weren't in danger of starving, even if they didn't resort to cannibalism.

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by RAnthonyMahan

Eh. I could forgive cannibalism if it was the only way you could survive.

Here's the thing, though. The St. Johns were on a goddamned farm. It was established they had milk, butter, bread, cheese, and vegetables. They clearly weren't in danger of starving, even if they didn't resort to cannibalism.

One cow can only produce so many proteins.
For 2 men and a fat lady it wont be enough.

[Aexra]

I am indifferent to that.
I can understand the need, the desperation that people drive to eat humans.
But I think the most important thing is, even in that situation that we need to keep some humanity in an already F*** up world.

It is different when someone sacrifices himself for the group, and killing people.
That just makes you a murderer.

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by Aexra

I am indifferent to that.
I can understand the need, the desperation that people drive to eat humans.
But I think the most important thing is, even in that situation that we need to keep some humanity in an already F*** up world.

It is different when someone sacrifices himself for the group, and killing people.
That just makes you a murderer.

But what is humanity?
How hungry will you become, before humanity goes out the window?
And in TWD. Where zombies go after every living animal, not just humans..
I just wonder what happens to zombies in sub-zero temperatures.

[trd84]

The only way I could eat a person would probably be a similar situation to the movie Alive, based on the rugby team who's plane crashed. Could never kill another person just to eat them.

[Aexra]

Originally Posted by Lars80

But what is humanity?
How hungry will you become, before humanity goes out the window?
And in TWD. Where zombies go after every living animal, not just humans..
I just wonder what happens to zombies in sub-zero temperatures.

Til I starve, killing other humans to eat them makes you a murderer.
Also in real life survival situations it doesn't happen, unless volunteered.
We are not like that.

[trd84]

Originally Posted by Lars80

But what is humanity?
How hungry will you become, before humanity goes out the window?
And in TWD. Where zombies go after every living animal, not just humans..
I just wonder what happens to zombies in sub-zero temperatures.

Zombies in sub-zero temps freeze and can't move in the Walking dead universe, I think.

[FarmerJoe]

Cannibalism should be the very,very last resort and actively murdering others for food is totally reprehensible.

I can sympathise with the people that the film 'Alive' is based on. Plane crashed into the Andes(I think?) They resorted to feeding on already DEAD passengers to stay alive until rescue arrived but the St. John situation is a totally different scenario.

The St John's actively set bear traps to catch humans and even have the audacity to claim they only eat people who would of died anyway! Mark is very unlikely going to die of an arrow in the shoulder! The farm seemed to have plenty of crops anyhow,turn veggie for gods sake!

[Death689God]

Originally Posted by Aexra

Also in real life survival situations it doesn't happen, unless volunteered.
We are not like that.

That's actually not true. In most cases, they aren't willing at all. Like the case with the Escaped Convicts in Australia, so many lost at sea. (Typically at sea it was the first idiot to drink sea water.).. It's typically Murder, no matter how you slice it.

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by trd84

Zombies in sub-zero temps freeze and can't move in the Walking dead universe, I think.

Then why are they sitting in Georgia?
Head for Canada should be priority number 1.
Better hunting as well.

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by trd84

The only way I could eat a person would probably be a similar situation to the movie Alive, based on the rugby team who's plane crashed. Could never kill another person just to eat them.

Yep. It's hard to imagine killing someone to eat them.
Eating someone who has died. Disturbing. But i wont say i wouldnt have done it in a situation like the one in alive. At the end you have to choose. Die or eat a person. I just hope i never have to make that choice.

[Aexra]

Originally Posted by Death689God

That's actually not true. In most cases, they aren't willing at all. Like the case with the Escaped Convicts in Australia, so many lost at sea. (Typically at sea it was the first idiot to drink sea water.).. It's typically Murder, no matter how you slice it.

Convicts who commit crimes, yeah I'm not surprised, don't think they have high moral standards either.
Bottom line it is not done, there will always be exceptions.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by Aexra

Convicts who commit crimes, yeah I'm not surprised, don't think they have high moral standards either.
Bottom line it is not done, there will always be exceptions.

You can't really say it's "not done", while in the same breath saying there's exceptions. It's either done, or it isn't.

As pointed out, it commonly occurred at sea, particularly during the 1800's and earlier (prior to instant communication and quick, fairly reliable rescue); e.g. Richard Parker was killed and eaten by the surviving crew when they made the assessment he wasn't going to make it anyway (he was one of those idiots who decided to drink seawater). By the time they decided to do the deed, the guy was supposedly unconscious, meaning he not only didn't give consent, but couldn't.

Granted, they were found guilty of murder afterward, but public opinion was actually on their side in this instance - if I recall correctly, their death sentence was ultimately commuted to six months imprisonment.

Regardless, the idea is that it simply isn't done... and it quite clearly is.

[Death689God]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

You can't really say it's "not done", while in the same breath saying there's exceptions. It's either done, or it isn't.

As pointed out, it commonly occurred at sea, particularly during the 1800's and earlier (prior to instant communication and quick, fairly reliable rescue); e.g. Richard Parker was killed and eaten by the surviving crew when they made the assessment he wasn't going to make it anyway (he was one of those idiots who decided to drink seawater). By the time they decided to do the deed, the guy was supposedly unconscious, meaning he not only didn't give consent, but couldn't.

Granted, they were found guilty of murder afterward, but public opinion was actually on their side in this instance - if I recall correctly, their death sentence was ultimately commuted to six months imprisonment.

Regardless, the idea is that it simply isn't done... and it quite clearly is.

This ^^^ Plus, people were so horrified at what the convicts did they said they lied. They didn't get punished for it from what I recall, because no one believed them. Essentially they thought even convicts weren't capable of it.

As someone who's faced the idea of starvation personally, and the things I've done. (Begged neighbors for scraps, eaten out of places I would normally never go to or touch), plus my understanding of the human Psyche, leaves me with no doubt that it's nothing abnormal under those stresses.

[Aexra]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

You can't really say it's "not done", while in the same breath saying there's exceptions. It's either done, or it isn't.

As pointed out, it commonly occurred at sea, particularly during the 1800's and earlier (prior to instant communication and quick, fairly reliable rescue); e.g. Richard Parker was killed and eaten by the surviving crew when they made the assessment he wasn't going to make it anyway (he was one of those idiots who decided to drink seawater). By the time they decided to do the deed, the guy was supposedly unconscious, meaning he not only didn't give consent, but couldn't.

Granted, they were found guilty of murder afterward, but public opinion was actually on their side in this instance - if I recall correctly, their death sentence was ultimately commuted to six months imprisonment.

Regardless, the idea is that it simply isn't done... and it quite clearly is.

you and I got different morals then.
With exceptions I ment that referring to RL survival situations.
That it does happen is an exception and so not common.

[FarmerJoe]

Originally Posted by Death689God

That's actually not true. In most cases, they aren't willing at all. Like the case with the Escaped Convicts in Australia, so many lost at sea. (Typically at sea it was the first idiot to drink sea water.).. It's typically Murder, no matter how you slice it.

I think I remember seeing a history program about the cannibalistic convicts.
Did two of them make a deal to kill the others one by one and eventually when they were the only ones left, one of them killed the other and ate him?

I also remember reading about a captain and some of his crew in the 19th or 18th century being shipwrecked, and while they made their way to land in a small boat decided to kill and eat the poor cabin boy to survive !

[Death689God]

Originally Posted by FarmerJoe

I think I remember seeing a history program about the cannibalistic convicts.
Did two of them make a deal to kill the others one by one and eventually when they were the only ones left, one of them killed the other and ate him?

I also remember reading about a captain and some of his crew in the 19th or 18th century being shipwrecked, and while they made their way to land in a small boat decided to kill and eat the poor cabin boy to survive !

I saw that program as well once.