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Old 01/04/2013, 06:34 pm   #1
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Smile Telltale I want to help you with Season 2. *Must Read*

I have read alot of posts and topics on here, which seem to REPEAT themselves over and over.
What I cannot figure out is two major things that need to change, to make this game more EPIC then what it is at the moment.

1. Make the episodes longer. Please dont make us wait months, to only get 2 hours in. would love to be able to get more than an two hours out of a game that i waited months in between for it to be released. If worse comes to worse, release two episodes at a time.


2. Give this game more of a open world feel to it. Nothing is worth then walking around and only being able to do what the game allows you to do or buttons to press. The gamer, wants to be in control, hence why you allow us to pick what we want to say. Want to see an example of a game that was ruined due to lack of open world? Play L.A Noire. Solid storyline and graphics, but game was dry, amd only allowed the gamer to press a button when it promopted you. It was boring, and didn't deliever on the gameplay. You have a game that needs to deliever in season 2 with this major issue. Why cant we pick up or own weapons, or create our own weapons? Why cant I enter the house in episode 2 and really see what I expected from the begining? Rather you stop users from doing their exploring, and force the gamer to do what you want them to do.


Thats all I wanted to add. Would love to know if anyone agrees or disagrees and why?

Dont get me wrong though, I love this game. Just think these things could just make this the complete game. Would love to play this game longer, and more than once.

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Old 01/04/2013, 08:50 pm   #2
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Understandable. I agree with this post.
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Old 01/04/2013, 09:33 pm   #3
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...this is a must read? You complain about how topics seem to repeat themselves over and over, and then repeat a concern that's been voiced in the past.
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Old 01/04/2013, 09:50 pm   #4
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Where? What forums you on?
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Old 01/04/2013, 11:12 pm   #5
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Longer episodes and open world are not new ideas on here by any means.

That doesn't mean I don't agree though. They could make bigger environments with more things, even inconsequential, to do. As for episode length... I think they hit the sweet spot on most of them, episode 5 was kind of short but it's quality and narrative was perfect to me.

If they decided to ditch the decision making aspect (hahaha, ew) then maybe longer episodes could work in S2. It's not something I would want.
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Old 01/04/2013, 11:34 pm   #6
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An open world TWD would be a bit silly. However, more freedom would be nice. Like certain areas where you look for survival tools, allowing you to walk freely in a certain area.
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Old 01/05/2013, 02:09 am   #7
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An open world would destroy the storytelling.
Hopefully, there will be more sneaking puzzles in Season 2.
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Old 01/05/2013, 06:50 am   #8
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I think the only question that is relevant at this time is will it be a new story or will it continue Clems story? Im kinda torn....part of me wants them to leave the Clem story alone cause its so perfect but the other part of me wants fan service.
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Old 01/05/2013, 09:09 am   #9
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You're asking for longer episodes and shorter waiting periods? Really?! TT already have little time to make high quality episodes. Wouldn't you much rather wait a few extra months and have a amazing game than risk making sub-par episodes that don't like up to TT's potential?

And while I would like a little more freedom, having a open world seems unrealistic.
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Old 01/05/2013, 09:16 am   #10
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If it were open world it would require a lot of work to make it important to constantly find new food fuel and it couldn't get away with the classic point and click travelling round the world and no time passing.
Walking dead feels good linear as that is how a zombie outbreak is you cannot go anywhere as if you do you will starve, be bitten or run out of or waste fuel.

All zombie story based games have to be linear to keep the tone and feeling
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Old 01/05/2013, 11:19 am   #11
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Stupid idea, I am going to report you and your message
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Old 01/05/2013, 08:41 pm   #12
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i dont think a more open world would be better, because i think wandering around doing random things would break the immersion of the game to much, and it would become far to obvious that you are in a game world.

but i think bigger decisions about the groups plans may be a good idea eg. choosing long term goals (like the boat) and choosing the priorities of the group (food, guns, survivours, equipment ect.) and choosing more items we keep throughout the game(vehicles, weapons, tools etc.)
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Old 01/05/2013, 08:48 pm   #13
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I'd like it to be similar to the first season, but with more impactful choices. Rather than a slightly longer playtime or a more open world, I'd like to have a different experience each playthrough.
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Old 01/05/2013, 09:00 pm   #14
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save open world for another games like Left 4 dead or the other WD game
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Old 01/05/2013, 10:55 pm   #15
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Personally, open world and longer episodes are two of the least of my concerns...especially if you want a shorter wait between episodes. And "create your own weapons," really? Not this type of game.

Biggest ones for me:

- More branching choice trees. I understand that everything might wind up the same in the end, and I still enjoyed the game, but now that TT is less under the radar, they should be able to afford putting more effort into the choices in the game. Stuff like the Doug/Carley carrying over for bits of Episodes 1-3 were very good and added to my gameplay experience. And we don't need "zomg 38 endingz," but having 3-6 more elaborate climaxes based on choice would be very interesting. For example, I thought the ending to episode 5 would've been made more interesting if it could be multiple different people - Campman if you stole from him, Andy if you left him alive, and Vernon if you made a choice noncompliant with those. Still a loose idea, so it's not the best example, but it'd be interesting to see how everything tied together that way. Could be implemented starting from episode 3, too.

- Like someone else said, sneaking puzzles. That puzzle in episode one where you had to stealthily kill every walker was pretty interesting, though simple. Something like that, but with more options to solving it - some easier, some more difficult - would be interesting. I think more puzzles in general would be a plus. Ones that require thought, not necessarily "retrieve this" or "where's Waldo" puzzles.

- Make sure it's technically sound. Do your best to eliminate the game-breaking glitches and framerate issues BEFORE it comes out. Or at least do it after...even that has been a chore.

Even without all of this, it would still be enjoyable...but everything can be improved.

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Old 01/06/2013, 03:50 am   #16
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What I want:

More impact on choices, less illusion of choice.

More and much much harder puzzles. Currently there aren't any puzzles unless you count 'press the ON button on the radio' or 'put the wheel on the apparatus'.
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Old 01/15/2013, 03:17 pm   #17
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What I want:

More impact on choices, less illusion of choice.

More and much much harder puzzles. Currently there aren't any puzzles unless you count 'press the ON button on the radio' or 'put the wheel on the apparatus'.

100% agree.
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Old 01/15/2013, 03:25 pm   #18
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I don't think either of these will happen.

I think the current episode lengths work well.

And adding an open-world element wouldn't have much of a point.
The entire point of this game is sticking together as a group.
Not much good would come from setting out and exploring the world on your own.
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Old 01/15/2013, 03:36 pm   #19
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the ability to play as a couple different characters would be kinda cool. at different points in the game, perhaps. let you see into other people's minds.
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For example, I thought the ending to episode 5 would've been made more interesting if it could be multiple different people - Campman if you stole from him, Andy if you left him alive, and Vernon if you made a choice noncompliant with those. Still a loose idea, so it's not the best example, but it'd be interesting to see how everything tied together that way. Could be implemented starting from episode 3, too.
Oh, yeah. I started my second playthrough with my main goal being to make it impossible for Campman to complain about me, and most importantly to avoid stealing from his car. Then when Kenny & co. emptied the car out anyway I realized my actions had absolutely zero effect on the reveal, which took away a lot of its weight for me. I was hoping it'd be someone else, or that Campman would have an entirely different reason for taking Clementine.
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