Saving carley will tell us more about lee's crime

[Dr Lance VanBoobenHousen]

I look forward to that

[WowMutt]

Originally Posted by Dr Lance VanBoobenHousen

I look forward to that

I personally would be very interested to see that!

[Dr Lance VanBoobenHousen]

so it would seem.

[NeonBlade]

Why would we as players care about Lees crime. What's done is done, and is in the past, now in a world where all of the ugliness is amplified. Lees past is pebble in the ocean. I'm more interested in his future.

[Milosuperspesh]

already been talked about before in a lee thread..

and by me

[NessaT]

I think Carly is dead useful. She was probably the only one who acknowledges Lee as the leader. Would be interesting to see how that pans out considering that Kenny and Lilly are always fighting each other.

[Bones420]

I really like Carley, shes my favorite character besides Clementine..

I thought it was funny how Lee picked on her a little bit about the batterys at the end of EP2..

"your never gonna let me live that down are ya"? lol..

[nborg]

I like Carley too. I'm glad I saved her.

[jangjangchang]

But that information is useless now...

[NeonBlade]

Originally Posted by jangjangchang

But that information is useless now...

Just like Carley.

The only reason Carley could feasibly and logically be around is because she's a woman, and if you're heterosexual, that means sex, which is why players hope to "hook up" with her, but to me, otherwise she has proven to be useless.

There are ample guns. Someone always comes to your aid in some fashion, just not with a gun that causes noise, and is useless when out of ammo.

I watched a few Lets plays of EP2 with Carley and she seems so out of place to the narrative. However that is how most males were raised; to protect women, and since most gamers age and mindset haven't elevated out of a juvenile stance, that is why Carley was chosen the most.

Its deep rooted genetics TellTale tapped into and manipulated, save the woman or the male, male players will usually always save the female, since the early days we have been programmed to do so, and female players will also save Carley since women carry same gender preference.

The few brave and bold that saved Doug ( such as myself ) realised he had value as an individual, and not based on his gender, or looks, as obese people are looked at as useless and grotesque.

Carley giving me insights about Lees crime is the very definition, of useless. Her use stretches to how many bullets she has in the clip, or if you want to be a cynic, the fact that she can procreate.

[Koolkass]

Originally Posted by NeonBlade

Just like Carley.

The only reason Carley could feasibly and logically be around is because she's a woman, and if you're heterosexual, that means sex, which is why players hope to "hook up" with her, but to me, otherwise she has proven to be useless.

There are ample guns. Someone always comes to your aid in some fashion, just not with a gun that causes noise, and is useless when out of ammo.

I watched a few Lets plays of EP2 with Carley and she seems so out of place to the narrative. However that is how most males were raised; to protect women, and since most gamers age and mindset haven't elevated out of a juvenile stance, that is why Carley was chosen the most.

Its deep rooted genetics TellTale tapped into and manipulated, save the woman or the male, male players will usually always save the female, since the early days we have been programmed to do so, and female players will also save Carley since women carry same gender preference.

The few brave and bold that saved Doug ( such as myself ) realised he had value as an individual, and not based on his gender, or looks, as obese people are looked at as useless and grotesque.

Carley giving me insights about Lees crime is the very definition, of useless. Her use stretches to how many bullets she has in the clip, or if you want to be a cynic, the fact that she can procreate.

I totally agree with you, which is why I chose to save Doug (also, I'm a female, and I find Doug attractive. It's not the reason I saved him, though). I saw Carly as pretty useless when compared to a guy who proved his intelligence and skill of improvising. Meanwhile, Carly couldn't understand how to fit batteries into a radio.

Also, I saw Carly as a threat. She might slip or intentionaly talk about Lee's crime, which will cause trouble between us and the rest of the group.

[United 23]

I don't regret saving Carley. She seems to be more rational than almost everyone apart from Lee. She also isn't an asshole about your past like Larry was. She also sees some sense by saying that Lee would be the best leader for the group which is also right. Kenny would cause the death of anyone to protect Duck and Lilly found it tough to deal with hard decisions before her dad's death (rations) so I can only think her mental attitude to making decisions has deteriorated even more after losing the only thing she had left.

[Milosuperspesh]

https://www.facebook.com/SaveCarley

will be posting stuff when we get it in game

[Thugnasty28]

you know what else i noticed... certain things you say/do will unlock more secrets of Lee's... for instance, in the first scene, when your in the back of the police car talking to the old guy, if you choose silence over talking to him... he will eventually say "not a lot of words for someone who just murdered a senator"...does he say that every time??? my jaw dropped when he said it, i do NOT remember him mentioning what Lee did the first 2 times i went thru it, responding instead of taking silence. LOVE IT!

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by NeonBlade

Just like Carley.

The only reason Carley could feasibly and logically be around is because she's a woman, and if you're heterosexual, that means sex, which is why players hope to "hook up" with her, but to me, otherwise she has proven to be useless.

There are ample guns. Someone always comes to your aid in some fashion, just not with a gun that causes noise, and is useless when out of ammo.

I watched a few Lets plays of EP2 with Carley and she seems so out of place to the narrative. However that is how most males were raised; to protect women, and since most gamers age and mindset haven't elevated out of a juvenile stance, that is why Carley was chosen the most.

Its deep rooted genetics TellTale tapped into and manipulated, save the woman or the male, male players will usually always save the female, since the early days we have been programmed to do so, and female players will also save Carley since women carry same gender preference.

The few brave and bold that saved Doug ( such as myself ) realised he had value as an individual, and not based on his gender, or looks, as obese people are looked at as useless and grotesque.

Carley giving me insights about Lees crime is the very definition, of useless. Her use stretches to how many bullets she has in the clip, or if you want to be a cynic, the fact that she can procreate.

While your interpretation is interesting, you're assuming that she is female and is good with a gun are the only reasons why we might have saved her. I think people were more likely to save her simply because they got to know her a lot better than they got to know Doug. In episode 1, just about the only interaction you have with Doug prior to the choice, is that he manages to program the tv remote to turn on the televisions across the street, and has a few lines of dialogue. Carley confronts you about being a murderer, yet trusts you to not be harmful to the group. She also goes on the rescue mission with you to save Glen. She saves you/Clementine from the zombie in the restroom. She also helps to serve as a stabilizing force in the group against Kenny and Lily. But ya know, Doug did manage to turn the tv's on.

I think it's pretty funny that you mentioned that most gamers' mindsets are rather juvenile. It seems like all you've managed to do is make generalizations rather than make an actual point. It'd probably serve you better in the future to not assume that you know what other people are thinking when they make a choice.

[Kiel555]

Originally Posted by NeonBlade

Just like Carley.

The only reason Carley could feasibly and logically be around is because she's a woman, and if you're heterosexual, that means sex, which is why players hope to "hook up" with her, but to me, otherwise she has proven to be useless.

There are ample guns. Someone always comes to your aid in some fashion, just not with a gun that causes noise, and is useless when out of ammo.

I watched a few Lets plays of EP2 with Carley and she seems so out of place to the narrative. However that is how most males were raised; to protect women, and since most gamers age and mindset haven't elevated out of a juvenile stance, that is why Carley was chosen the most.

Its deep rooted genetics TellTale tapped into and manipulated, save the woman or the male, male players will usually always save the female, since the early days we have been programmed to do so, and female players will also save Carley since women carry same gender preference.

The few brave and bold that saved Doug ( such as myself ) realised he had value as an individual, and not based on his gender, or looks, as obese people are looked at as useless and grotesque.

Carley giving me insights about Lees crime is the very definition, of useless. Her use stretches to how many bullets she has in the clip, or if you want to be a cynic, the fact that she can procreate.

Well...that's partially true. Carley being an attractive female and possible future romance is more of an added bonus than the main reason. The main reason is that Carley saved Lee and Clem from being happy meals multiple times. When it came time to save her or not I opted to save her. In fact, after episode 2, I'd have to save her life at least three more times just to even things up. I'm/we are in her debt.

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by NeonBlade

Just like Carley.

The only reason Carley could feasibly and logically be around is because she's a woman, and if you're heterosexual, that means sex, which is why players hope to "hook up" with her, but to me, otherwise she has proven to be useless.

There are ample guns. Someone always comes to your aid in some fashion, just not with a gun that causes noise, and is useless when out of ammo.

I watched a few Lets plays of EP2 with Carley and she seems so out of place to the narrative. However that is how most males were raised; to protect women, and since most gamers age and mindset haven't elevated out of a juvenile stance, that is why Carley was chosen the most.

Its deep rooted genetics TellTale tapped into and manipulated, save the woman or the male, male players will usually always save the female, since the early days we have been programmed to do so, and female players will also save Carley since women carry same gender preference.

The few brave and bold that saved Doug ( such as myself ) realised he had value as an individual, and not based on his gender, or looks, as obese people are looked at as useless and grotesque.

Carley giving me insights about Lees crime is the very definition, of useless. Her use stretches to how many bullets she has in the clip, or if you want to be a cynic, the fact that she can procreate.

Okay, I'll bite. As Skeptic said, you'd do well not to claim the only reason most people would pick Carley is because she's a chick with a gun. That's bull. Only a fool would choose who they like SOLELY based on appearance. It takes more than just appearance to prove just how great a character would be, it takes skill and personality as well. And you claim that juvenile minds and women would choose Carley for that foolish reason and some sort of feminine bond or something, but that's generalization. I understand this is only your opinion, but you're also assuming something of other people.

I'm a girl myself, and I say I didn't save Carley because we're both female, I saved her because she proved herself. She killed the undead to save the group, she went with Lee and eventually Glenn to at least try and help that poor woman in the motor inn, she's supportive of Lee, and while she may know his secret, her dedication to him shows. She even says that what happened in the past before all the shit that happens started doesn't necessarily matter and that it doesn't have to be a bad person. And what "brave and bold" are you referring to that would save Doug? Do you have to be so biased? People like Doug will save Doug, people who like Carley will save Carley. Actually, I do like both of them.

For the last bit, my $.02 is that Carley knowing Lee's past and secret isn't useless at all. It could cause detriment to the group, as Carley said, but it could also be possibly grounds for events in the later episodes. It could play a part in how a certain situation goes down, and how characters reply towards him. That coupled with Carley supporting Lee as a leader could lead to some rather delicious but hard drama in the game.

Originally Posted by Thugnasty28

you know what else i noticed... certain things you say/do will unlock more secrets of Lee's... for instance, in the first scene, when your in the back of the police car talking to the old guy, if you choose silence over talking to him... he will eventually say "not a lot of words for someone who just murdered a senator"...does he say that every time??? my jaw dropped when he said it, i do NOT remember him mentioning what Lee did the first 2 times i went thru it, responding instead of taking silence. LOVE IT!

Yeah, he says that all the time if you go with that particular choice, either not pushing a button or clicking the "..." choice. And I wouldn't take him murdering a Senator to heart, as it could've been some other way around. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Milosuperspesh]

thing is there are people who want the chick to live just soley cos she is chick...

being a guy, i felt carley and lee bonded well and the chick with gun thang didn't hurt either..

ttg imo 'messed' up doug because of the limited almost stunted interactions with him.... based purely on the face value of 'skills' carley wins..

yes doug may prove to be more use later on but we have to wait and see

bottom line save both of em in different save slots .....savelots ? hmmm sounds similar lol

[godzilla999666]

I di dn't choose doug cause he was a huge pain about opening the lock to go get the keys. I missed the photo and was stuck searching for something for about two hours till i stumbled across the stupid photo. Also i figured i could save Carly and she could shoot the walkers and save doug.

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Milosuperspesh

thing is there are people who want the chick to live just soley cos she is chick...

being a guy, i felt carley and lee bonded well and the chick with gun thang didn't hurt either..

ttg imo 'messed' up doug because of the limited almost stunted interactions with him.... based purely on the face value of 'skills' carley wins..

yes doug may prove to be more use later on but we have to wait and see

bottom line save both of em in different save slots .....savelots ? hmmm sounds similar lol

I don't think anyone is debating whether some people may have picked Carley because she is a chick with a gun. What I'm saying is: don't lump all the people who saved Carley into the same boat. Just because we chose to save Carley, does not mean we did so for juvenile reasons.