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Old 08/14/2012, 08:18 pm   #1
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Default Does Clem Influence Your Moral Decisions?

As Lilly was crying over Larry, screaming for help, Kenny was reasoning why we should kill Larry, I looked at Lilly and felt a deep sympathy for her. But I knew Kenny was right.

Being trapped in a room with a 6'4", 300 pound walker was too life threatening to ignore. Larry had to be stopped before he turned.

I just couldn't let Larry rise, as bad as I felt for Lilly. It was a gut wrenching decision but I did what I thought was right.

I tried to help Lilly revive Larry.

As much as my mind was telling me to help Kenny destroy Larry's brain, I didn't want Clem to grow up seeing how low humanity had come. I wanted her to know that there were still morals and hope, even in despair and desperation.

If Clem wasn't present, and I wasn't in charge of her, I'm not sure I would have made the same decision.

What about you? Does Clem influence your gameplay?
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Old 08/14/2012, 08:35 pm   #2
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I still would of sided with Kenny on this one, since Larry almost killed me and I saved his life in the first episode and that I had the decided to kill Larry I didn't even blink. In on other save I sided with Lilly just to see how the story plays out if I side with Kenny or Lilly. However Clem would of not changed my way I thought of it. Same went with the St John Brothers killed both as well.
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Old 08/14/2012, 08:44 pm   #3
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As Lilly was crying over Larry, screaming for help, Kenny was reasoning why we should kill Larry, I looked at Lilly and felt a deep sympathy for her. But I knew Kenny was right.

Being trapped in a room with a 6'4", 300 pound walker was too life threatening to ignore. Larry had to be stopped before he turned.

I just couldn't let Larry rise, as bad as I felt for Lilly. It was a gut wrenching decision but I did what I thought was right.

I tried to help Lilly revive Larry.

As much as my mind was telling me to help Kenny destroy Larry's brain, I didn't want Clem to grow up seeing how low humanity had come. I wanted her to know that there were still morals and hope, even in despair and desperation.

If Clem wasn't present, and I wasn't in charge of her, I'm not sure I would have made the same decision.

What about you? Does Clem influence your gameplay?
No Clem does not influence my game play.

I'm stuck on how you could side with Kenny on anything

Mr. Chow has thought us that when you do blow sometimes your heart stops then starts back up again. Point is even know the heart stops that he is not dead.

All kidding aside I can't see killing someone who is not dead. Yes Larry was having some medical issues, but to kill him? Besides Lilly, Lee, and the self proclaimed bad ass himself Kenny could have taken Larry had he turned to a Zombie.
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Old 08/14/2012, 09:33 pm   #4
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In some situations yes, but in others, no. Clem was not the reason I tried to help Lilly or not loot the car. But it was because of her that I did not kill the St. John brothers.
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Old 08/14/2012, 09:34 pm   #5
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don't worry about clem you can tell her this
clem:is it over?
lee:yes or....
lee:He was already dead--I promise
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Old 08/14/2012, 09:37 pm   #6
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don't worry about clem you can tell her this
clem:is it over?
lee:yes or....
lee:He was already dead--I promise
Of course, but I think that Clem will keep that in her mind that you helped to kill Larry. I wouldn't be surprised if in the upcoming episodes she goes like "Lee, he/she turned into a zombie! Kill him/her!"
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:05 am   #7
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clem remembers some things but not too much in ep2 she remembers what you say in the barn, so in a familiar scenario she probably will remind lee or others about the past events..

so i say look after her regardless..
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:07 am   #8
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Oddly, I thought Clem was supposed to influence the way you play so I always play to that end.

The car I didn't loot because Clem wasn't feeling it.

The Larry thing I did just to get in with Lilly. (And my dislike of Kenny)

But other than that when I play as Lee I try to be straight arrow and not do things that would be a bad role model to the girl.
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:18 am   #9
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Clem's expression after hearing about spiders and hugging her after Larry headbash. Yep, the kid doesn't deserve bad childhood.
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:24 am   #10
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Clem's expression after hearing about spiders and hugging her after Larry headbash. Yep, the kid doesn't deserve bad childhood.
Too late.

You remember that "death room" she had to go into in order to open the freezer door the group was trapped in.

Been meaning to make a thread talking about that little experience and any impact it could potentially have on Clem if she appears in season 2.

but my friends wouldn't like that
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:26 am   #11
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Too late.

You remember that "death room" she had to go into in order to open the freezer door the group was trapped in.

Been meaning to make a thread talking about that little experience and any impact it could potentially have on Clem if she appears in season 2.

but my friends wouldn't like that
you can discuss clem stuff in a clem thread like this one

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/...ad.php?t=29661
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:31 am   #12
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Ah cool, I'll get around to it.

Thank-you.
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Old 08/15/2012, 05:53 am   #13
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What death room ? There were no bodies, just blood and bottles easily mistaken for animal intestines. Lee smashed her babysitters head in (or not, if you chose calmer way out), or how about burning all those bodies in the motor in.
Her sadness does make me want to reload saves sometimes ;_; Even though I try to stick with my decisions.
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Old 08/15/2012, 06:00 am   #14
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What death room ? There were no bodies, just blood and bottles easily mistaken for animal intestines. Lee smashed her babysitters head in (or not, if you chose calmer way out), or how about burning all those bodies in the motor in.
Her sadness does make me want to reload saves sometimes ;_; Even though I try to stick with my decisions.
You didn't have to kill the baby sitter? Whoa..I had no idea.

Well I call it death room cause of the amount of blood and all the tools. It's debatable. of course, but it struck me as a death room. If not that then at least extreme dismemberment.

Oh, and also, I don't think Clem would mistake them for animal parts after having the fall out with eating Mark.
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Old 08/15/2012, 06:07 am   #15
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She was technically dead already, but you can hit her four times without smashing the head in on the fifth.. it was a nice touch.
Mark was probably cut in the main house. Plus she was more afraid of seeing Danny that anything else.
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Old 08/15/2012, 06:09 am   #16
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I'm kind of mixed on this. I killed the brothers because I felt like they were too dangerous to live. But I didn't take anything from the car because of Clem.
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Old 08/15/2012, 06:18 am   #17
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She was technically dead already, but you can hit her four times without smashing the head in on the fifth.. it was a nice touch.
Mark was probably cut in the main house. Plus she was more afraid of seeing Danny that anything else.
Oh oh..okay yeah I made that choice myself. I only hit the baby sitter the amount of times needed for her to stop moving. I was thinking of the kid and the effect it would have on her. So I know what you are talking about, was confused for a moment.

Mark was cut in the house, I think there was blood in the tub and what not. But there is no doubt that they usually did the bulk of their "meat cutting" in that back room.
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Old 08/15/2012, 06:58 am   #18
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Yes,she has a good idea on how to survive for a young girl,and knew Lee was in trouble in the dining room.Thats why she gave him the hammer.The hammer was in the tree house.You need a hammer to build a tree house or in my day it was called a fort.
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Old 08/15/2012, 08:29 am   #19
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I don't get why this discussion is still going on!!!! -.-'

It is impossible to revive a person who have died from an hearth attack with CPR alone! you need a defibrillator to kick start the heart, without it you can't revive a person who have had an heart attack, it's a scientific fact for crying out loud! -.-'

So with that fact in mind, here are the options you have:

(Larry dies of an heart attack)

You either take out Larry before he reanimate and becomes a mortal threat to the group.

You wait till he turns "just to be sure" and then try and take him out with a huge risk to the group (being stuck in a small space with a very big fresh zombie)

or you wait for him to turn and kill you all.

that's literately your options....
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Old 08/15/2012, 09:36 am   #20
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Larry was as good as dead. Tough decision to take him out? Sure.... Well not for me.. I sided with Kenny as soon as the option appeared.

If Clem is going to survive then she needs to learn that tough decisions will have to be made to make that happen. No room for chances like that in the situation that we were in.

So, I'd say no Clem does not influence my moral decisions. My decisions are the decisions made that I feel give us the best chance at survival.

I killed the brothers
Killed Larry
I would have killed Jolene if she would have went any further but I didn't have to.
And I took the food from the car.

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