[SPOILERS] CARLEY [Ep 3 discussion]

[Marleysativa]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

My intention was not to belittle you, and if I did, then I'm truly sorry. I feel like we're on similar ground, both believe that she is dead and not coming back. I just don't feel like trying to convince some people that she is not coming back is a worthwhile effort. Why even bother calling them delusional? They are free to choose to believe what they want. Who are we to stand in their way or belittle them for that?

No way, I'm not offended, nor do I feel belittled. You didn't like the tone of my post, I can understand that. I'm just getting a bit annoyed when people choose to call the writing/story of this game sloppy or lazy because an event transpired that they didn't like. It's what prompted me to post in this thread in first place.

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Marleysativa

No way, I'm not offended, nor do I feel belittled. You didn't like the tone of my post, I can understand that. I'm just getting a bit annoyed when people choose to call the writing/story of this game sloppy or lazy because an event transpired that they didn't like. It's what prompted me to post in this thread in first place.

See that is the thing. I absolutely love the story. I was shocked as hell and a bit angry initially about Carley, but I think everybody knew what they were signing up for with this series.

[Zombies are Awesome!]

Face it, it was a cheap way to off Carley/Doug (that way they wouldn't have to work on 2 separate characters anymore) and so Lilly could leave .

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Zombies are Awesome!

Face it, it was a cheap way to off Carley/Doug (that way they wouldn't have to work on 2 separate characters anymore) and so Lilly could leave .

I don't think they had to kill Carley in order for Lily to leave. They just as easily could have left her at the Motor Inn. I'd be fascinated to hear what Telltale's thinking is behind killing off 3 main characters in all of about 5 minutes though.

[Zombies are Awesome!]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

I don't think they had to kill Carley in order for Lily to leave. They just as easily could have left her at the Motor Inn.

But why kill both Carley and Doug? why not just kill one of them?

[Marleysativa]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

See that is the thing. I absolutely love the story. I was shocked as hell and a bit angry initially about Carley, but I think everybody knew what they were signing up for with this series.

I actually yelled "No, no, no. What the fuck, Lilly!" as it happened. It was loud enough that I scared the better half and prompted some laughter.

Originally Posted by Zombies are Awesome!

Face it, it was a cheap way to off Carley/Doug (that way they wouldn't have to work on 2 separate characters anymore) and so Lilly could leave .

Or it could be that it showed significant character development in Lilly. How the events from the past two episodes reached a boiling point and made her snap. Although I'm sure you have much more insight into the development of this game than the rest of us. Lilly had to leave, but it was in no way cheap or lazy.

But why kill both Carley and Doug? why not just kill one of them?

Can you imagine the outcry from fans if they did that? Doug already got the short end of the stick with some of the dialogue, in my opinion (sharing Lee's past).

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Marleysativa

I actually yelled "No, no, no. What the fuck, Lilly!" as it happened. It was loud enough that I scared the better half and prompted some laughter.

I'm going to be honest, canon or not, I was looking to put a bullet right between her eyes in that moment.

[Xarne]

Staff!!!

[Maugly]

I think with all those threads lying around at this forum, 'Carley dies' will become just as much of a spoiler as 'L dies', 'Aerith dies', etc

[Wilder41]

Yeah, Its sad but there is no way she is alive. If she were it would have to be those one in a Million gun shot wounds to the head where the victim survives. Even then, Even if she survived that she would still die of blood loss. There would need to another group of survivors with a doctor that heard the gun shot come see see what it was. Then see Carly and the Doc would need to work fast. So yeah..that is not happening. Either that, or the Bullet grazed the side of her head, rending her unconscious. I mean we did not see the wound or a pool of blood for that matter unLike Katjaa when she took a bullet to the head. But that is unlikely.

[Maugly]

By the way, I don't believe she's alive, but if you check out on the internet, there's quite a few stories how people survive point blank headshot for one or the other reason.

[Xarne]

Originally Posted by staff

No i dont get banned why ask this?

someone posted the exact thing like you, verbatim and in bold.
their one and only post. banned.
found it odd seeing the same post up again later in the day

[SideKickin]

I was shot in the face by Chandler from Friends and left to die in the middle of the desert in a post-apocalyptic America. And I still managed to pick myself up, dust myself off, and take control of New Vegas over the course of seventy hours.

Having said that, now the thought of Carley coming back doesn't sound far-fetched, huh?

[Redundant]

Let it go guys. She's gone. Dead. Take solace in the fact that she isn't going to be turned into a walker because of the bullet to the head. It was quick and painless. Don't get me wrong. I was close to kick Lily's ass and there was no way in hell she was getting back in the RV.

Tbh this thread just shows how good TTG writing has been. That people love a character like Carley and are so determined to try and get her back. Even though she took a bullet right between the eyes.

I was so emotionally drained after Episode 3 (like many have said) that I was at the point where I didn't care about anyone apart from Clem anymore. Perfect example is me not wasting time for Omid to jump. I don't have time for any timid bs anymore. I pushed that guy. He'll thank me later... surely :P

Again just shows how good the writing truly is.

[Sarah The Great]

No offense, But you are getting way too attached to one character
And she got shot point blank in the head...she is...DEAD

[Sarah The Great]

These treads are getting out of control

[Churchgonewild]

Yeah, I had a similar reaction, honestly all the major deaths in this episode were pretty forced and no one had appropriate reactions to them in the game.

I agree, but they kind of muffed the whole Doug thing because he was very obviously shot in the back of the head, but there is a possibility of Carley coming back, because of your aforementioned points. Also I've read up a bit, both Carl & Daryl (from the show/novel) survived head shots, so... here's to hope and more choices in the future?

[laurahughes]

Originally Posted by ZombieGoBoom

1/ Then lets call it dumb luck if you like.
2/ If the back of Carley's head exploded then a lot of this discussion would be over. If Lee or someone actually checked her but it seemed everyone assumed Carley was dead.
3/ Give it up. I think a lot of us in the Carley camp would like to give the girl a chance, regardless how slim. The only ones who has the final say in this debate is TTG and I will willingly accept it either way.

If you like to know, in another thread I might a point which is against her possible return... at least to the group. If Carley somehow survived she is going to be PI**ED to no end that she was left for dead, making any reunion nearly impossible.

i play without the story things, so i play it as every decision counts.
but people are saying that a tooltip pops up saying carley will remember this.
Possible reason?

[donmike84]

oh well there goes the lee/carley romance everyone wanted

[bakajin]

LOL at Aerith. But either way, the whole point of the character was for Lee to lose someone he was close too without it being Clem. Too bad, because it's kind of a cliche. It would have been more of a test for Lee to have Carley as the thief but Ben gets blamed for it. Then he'd have a real issue to deal with going forward.