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Old 11/19/2012, 02:18 pm   #421
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Lilly did a good job of keeping the group safe. While she was leader, we went from pretty much having nothing to having food, water and shelter for over three months. Now look at us. We're what 4 days without her and all about to die. Even a bad hunting day and half an apple to eat is better than this. When was the last time Lee had any food? I bet it was 4 days ago.

If you helped Kenny murder Lilly's father then the consequences of driving Lilly over the edge are your fault as well. There is blood on your hands too. Trying to say Lilly snapped for no reason whatsoever is a failed attempt at removing your guilt in helping all this sadness become a reality. If you think Lilly is a monster then she's a monster that you had a part in making.
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Lilly did a good job of keeping the group safe. While she was leader, we went from pretty much having nothing to having food, water and shelter for over three months. Now look at us. We're what 4 days without her and all about to die. Even a bad hunting day and half an apple to eat is better than this. When was the last time Lee had any food? I bet it was 4 days ago.

If you helped Kenny murder Lilly's father then the consequences of driving Lilly over the edge are your fault as well. There is blood on your hands too. Trying to say Lilly snapped for no reason whatsoever is a failed attempt at removing your guilt in helping all this sadness become a reality. If you think Lilly is a monster then she's a monster that you had a part in making.
ummm... have you finished episode 3?
no matter what if you help her or not she still snaps and kills Doug/Carley.

replay episode 3, by that point it's been a week since the St.johns died.
I side with nobody in the Kenny and Lilly leadership, Lee is a better leader
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Old 11/19/2012, 02:29 pm   #423
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...If you helped Kenny murder Lilly's father then the consequences of driving Lilly over the edge are your fault as well. There is blood on your hands too. Trying to say Lilly snapped for no reason whatsoever is a failed attempt at removing your guilt in helping all this sadness become a reality. If you think Lilly is a monster then she's a monster that you had a part in making.
I didn't - sided with Lilly there and screamed at Kenny(screen) for a while for being such an arse. I think people just don't get it. There is no Lilly, or Kenny. There is no bad or good, there is only right and wrong according to the situation you personally face at the moment given. That's why I approved Dukeleto's way of saying that players are different, as they actually feel different about their choices.

I personally know I made a lot of wrong choices looking back, but very few of them actually involved Lilly and Kenny.
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Old 11/19/2012, 02:30 pm   #424
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Lilly did a good job of keeping the group safe. While she was leader, we went from pretty much having nothing to having food, water and shelter for over three months. Now look at us. We're what 4 days without her and all about to die. Even a bad hunting day and half an apple to eat is better than this. When was the last time Lee had any food? I bet it was 4 days ago.

If you helped Kenny murder Lilly's father then the consequences of driving Lilly over the edge are your fault as well. There is blood on your hands too. Trying to say Lilly snapped for no reason whatsoever is a failed attempt at removing your guilt in helping all this sadness become a reality. If you think Lilly is a monster then she's a monster that you had a part in making.
kenny and lee may have had a part to play in the crazy of lilly, but you cant blame lilly's actions on anybody but lilly, not everybody would murder someone because they are depressed, and killing larry doesn't cause anything directly apart from killing larry that's is just how things work, blaming kenny/lee for lillys actions is just an excuse not the cause of her acions
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Old 11/19/2012, 02:48 pm   #425
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ummm... have you finished episode 3?
no matter what if you help her or not she still snaps and kills Doug/Carley.

replay episode 3, by that point it's been a week since the St.johns died.
I side with nobody in the Kenny and Lilly leadership, Lee is a better leader
Her father was still murdered right in front of her. The only thing that may be affected is how much blood is on your hands. What was your role and how much of the blame is rightfully yours along with Kenny?

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I didn't - sided with Lilly there and screamed at Kenny(screen) for a while for being such an arse. I think people just don't get it. There is no Lilly, or Kenny. There is no bad or good, there is only right and wrong according to the situation you personally face at the moment given. That's why I approved Dukeleto's way of saying that players are different, as they actually feel different about their choices.

I personally know I made a lot of wrong choices looking back, but very few of them actually involved Lilly and Kenny.
Very true. I recognize that when Lilly snapped some of that blood was on my hands too. I initially sided with Kenny and helped undermine Lilly's leadership of the group. My hands are not clean either. But I stopped and tried to help Lilly as best I could early in e2. I too have made some choices that I'd like to change but rewind=lame to me.

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kenny and lee may have had a part to play in the crazy of lilly, but you cant blame lilly's actions on anybody but lilly, not everybody would murder someone because they are depressed, and killing larry doesn't cause anything directly apart from killing larry that's is just how things work, blaming kenny/lee for lillys actions is just an excuse not the cause of her acions

I can see how this would appeal to someone who helped murder Larry. Putting all the blame on Lilly does not remove any of the blood on your hands if you helped murder her father.
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Her father was still murdered right in front of her. The only thing that may be affected is how much blood is on your hands. What was your role and how much of the blame is rightfully yours along with Kenny?
sorry I misread your reply

Larry was a total asshole,whatever comes out his charming ass... It still looks like shieet, I don't care if that caused Lilly to become paranoid and kill without hesitation, nor kenny's annoying complaints about anything.

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Old 11/19/2012, 10:00 pm   #427
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I can see how this would appeal to someone who helped murder Larry. Putting all the blame on Lilly does not remove any of the blood on your hands if you helped murder her father.
just because you want to blame everyone but lilly for killing doug and carley it doesn't mean it's true, she killed them nobody else did, i take responsibility for finishing larry of with kenny, so yes blaming the actual person that did it appeals to me, because it is the truth
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Old 11/19/2012, 10:35 pm   #428
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just because you want to blame everyone but lilly for killing doug and carley it doesn't mean it's true, she killed them nobody else did, i take responsibility for finishing larry of with kenny, so yes blaming the actual person that did it appeals to me, because it is the truth
Yes, it is the truth as better as all big holes between the group's affiliation have been made in real by one single shot which was actually Kenny's salty action itself.

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Old 11/20/2012, 05:30 am   #429
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Team Kenny AND Lilly! And we don't need the Lilly fans angering every Kenny fan in this community. Just keep your Kenny hatred to yourself.
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Old 11/20/2012, 05:32 am   #430
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Team Kenny AND Lilly! And we don't need the Lilly fans angering every Kenny fan in this community. Just keep your Kenny hatred to yourself.
Who says so?

I'm asking because you sound like you were giving an order. I generally do like to know people who says what I have to do or not.

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Old 11/20/2012, 05:43 am   #431
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Who says so?

I'm asking because you sound like you were giving an order. I generally do like to know people who says what I have to do or not.
I wasn't giving you an order, I was suggesting it. What the post meant is, that you and a couple of other Lilly fans go on threads, and the second somebody mentions Kenny, you (or another person) make a post that mostly goes like this:

"Hurp derp Kenn'y a fucking asshole I hope he dies by anything, mostly lee, I wish Lilly would come back, she's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo great, Kenny's a fucking spawn of evil, why did you make him telltale?

P.S. Kenny sucks"
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I wasn't giving you an order, I was suggesting it. What the post meant is, that you and a couple of other Lilly fans go on threads, and the second somebody mentions Kenny, you (or another person) make a post that mostly goes like this:

"Hurp derp Kenn'y a fucking asshole I hope he dies by anything, mostly lee, I wish Lilly would come back, she's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo great, Kenny's a fucking spawn of evil, why did you make him telltale?

P.S. Kenny sucks"
I don't agree.
We all already know it is ridicilous to argue after two or three epoisodes passed. At least I am aware of that. This game is about to end tomorrow, yeah yeah we knew it.

On my part, I like discussing and knowing others's opinions about characters and the thing is I don't think I was so harsh on people's feelings.

And I deliberately am not talking about some more important manners like newsworthy threads entitled "Who will survive?" or "What is about Season 2" etc. because I don't want to see any spoilers(I didn't watch the latest trailer). To be honest, I don't know if someone is curious about my idea. Probably I'll be discussing those after my game is finished.
Meanwhile I'm watching threads like this for fun and for not wasting time with possibly "will never happen" predictions. (Besides I already attended many of them, too)
I am not sure if Kenny&Lilly kinda threads are much worse than the ones which entitled on MAIN PAGE as "who will kill who and what will happen to boat" kinda threads.

Please don't think that people are talking here because they are dying for Lilly or Kenny, or they are unaware of where the story goes. Carley is dead or Lilly is dead, bla bla bla, everyone knows everything. We are talking here because we are having fun with hearing others'.
If you don't like to see this thread, you can just simply ignore it. Click on another title my friend; if I may give you a SUGGESTION myself.

All the Best with the final episode.
P.S: Kenny sucks (see, no harm done)

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Old 11/20/2012, 09:14 am   #433
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just because you want to blame everyone but lilly for killing doug and carley it doesn't mean it's true, she killed them nobody else did, i take responsibility for finishing larry of with kenny, so yes blaming the actual person that did it appeals to me, because it is the truth
All I'm suggesting is that maybe just maybe your actions along with Kenny in murdering Lilly's father right in front of her may have contributed to Lilly being somewhat irrational later on in the story. That's all.

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Team Kenny AND Lilly! And we don't need the Lilly fans angering every Kenny fan in this community. Just keep your Kenny hatred to yourself.
This is the Lilly appreciation thead where we for the most part like to say nice things about Lilly. What you're looking for is the fuck Kenny thread. That's where I post all my Kenny hate by the buckets.

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I wasn't giving you an order, I was suggesting it. What the post meant is, that you and a couple of other Lilly fans go on threads, and the second somebody mentions Kenny, you (or another person) make a post that mostly goes like this:

"Hurp derp Kenn'y a fucking asshole I hope he dies by anything, mostly lee, I wish Lilly would come back, she's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo great, Kenny's a fucking spawn of evil, why did you make him telltale?

P.S. Kenny sucks"
I do like to mention the time I got to tell Kenny to go fuck himself at the end of e4 (that was a great moment in gaming for me ) but I've only seen Kenny bashing in the context of an on-topic reply. It's not like a Carley thread where someone mentions how much they miss Carley and someone else chimes in for the sole purpose of bashing Carley and mentioing Doug. Happens every single time.
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Old 11/20/2012, 10:16 am   #434
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Team Kenny AND Lilly! And we don't need the Lilly fans angering every Kenny fan in this community. Just keep your Kenny hatred to yourself.
Why should I? First of all, this is the Lilly appreciation thread, so if anyone should have to stop, it's Kenny fans trashing on Lilly here. However, we (most Lilly fans) appreciate good discussion so we don't mind them.
I hate Kenny mostly in the Fuck Kenny thread, which is once again aimed exactly at what I am doing.
I don't go and look for Kenny fan threads and post negative things about him there. I (we) don't also post thousands of "Bring Carley back" threads as Carley fans do, so actually I would say we are one of the most peaceful and organized group of fans.


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just because you want to blame everyone but lilly for killing doug and carley it doesn't mean it's true, she killed them nobody else did, i take responsibility for finishing larry of with kenny, so yes blaming the actual person that did it appeals to me, because it is the truth
So, if my Lee killed Duck in cold blood, or even because of the circumstances and Kenny decided to kill me, Clem or anybody else in return, it is entirely on his hands and I don't have anything to do with it? Wow...
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Old 11/21/2012, 10:33 am   #435
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Looks like Lilly was right! She said not to steal from that station wagon, so did Clem and Lee (in my game). But that Kenny..... okay I'll save my comments on Kenny for the Fuck Kenny thread.
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Old 11/26/2012, 01:50 pm   #436
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When that creep guy was questioning me, he knew a lot about what happened. He blamed me for saving Carley, for killing both Andy and Danny and for stealing the food (which I did, yeah).
I do wonder however, if you helped kill Larry, would he blame you for that too?

Do you think that those are actually the things Clem blames Lee for?

P.S I was kinda mad when I heard Kenny mentioning Lilly and Larry.
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blames Lee for......?

Wow, I never thought to look at it that way... hmmm.
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Well, I don't know. It was just a suggestion, cause I've seen only my ep.5
I mean, it makes sense that at the time Clem might have felt upset with my Lee killing both St. Johns. That's probably the reason why she told the stranger.
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I liked Lily until she shot Carley in the head. That pissed me off. But until that scene, I liked her.
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Well, I don't know. It was just a suggestion, cause I've seen only my ep.5
I mean, it makes sense that at the time Clem might have felt upset with my Lee killing both St. Johns. That's probably the reason why she told the stranger.
No, you've given me something to think about, something I hadn't even considered.

I mean, in a way, Crazydude's been Clem's "go-to" person when things get bad and she just needed someone to talk to.

At least before she realized how crazy he was. You might be onto something.
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