[SPOILERS]Ben's character and deeds

[bazenji]

As far as I'm concerned, Ben bought the team time. If everyone had listened to Kenny, none of this would have happened.

Wow...I can't believe I just said that.

tl;dr, it's all Lilly's fault.

[SteveTheBlocks]

Originally Posted by bazenji

As far as I'm concerned, Ben bought the team time. If everyone had listened to Kenny, none of this would have happened.

Wow...I can't believe I just said that.

tl;dr, it's all Lilly's fault.

Thank you, someone who understands.

[bazenji]

Originally Posted by SteveTheBlocks

Thank you, someone who understands.

Like I said somewhere else, knowing what you know now and playing through Episode 1, it's obvious that Lilly is a nutjob. That video "The Silent Treatment" lets you get a good sense of everyone's personality in that argument and I get the feeling most people, like me, were trying to get on her good side and be diplomatic.

But if you just sit back and let her talk? Holy crap, she's a total monster.

[ProjectPIKA]

Originally Posted by Red Panda

I didn't pick this up before I saw a playthrough, but as soon as they escape the motel, before Lilly says anything, Ben says "I'm sorry."

Yeah. When they were on the RV and Ben said that line, I was like "You little turd!! I wish I had the choice to leave you behind with your other classmates on EP2!"

[SteveTheBlocks]

Originally Posted by bazenji

Like I said somewhere else, knowing what you know now and playing through Episode 1, it's obvious that Lilly is a nutjob. That video "The Silent Treatment" lets you get a good sense of everyone's personality in that argument and I get the feeling most people, like me, were trying to get on her good side and be diplomatic.

But if you just sit back and let her talk? Holy crap, she's a total monster.

Wow, really?
I better check that out.

[LokiHavok]

I suspected him as soon as I asked him about the broken flashlight, back at the motor inn.
Wasn't 100 percent sure. Like 90 percent.
The other 10 was on Carley, cause of her reaction too.

[rachellouise85]

I suspected him, when it was clearly not lilly's paranoia, and someone had been taking and leaving stuff for someone . I could only think of him who had come into contact with the bandits

[Schizodeluxe]

I must be the only one who suspected Kenny of doing it, I never suspected Carly, was no reason for her to do it, Ben I thought was too chicken to do anything like that, so it could really only have been Kenny in my mind so was a surprise when found out it was Ben

[helno]

Actually I didint suspect anyone ,I tought that someone from the outside ,maybe bandits ,was stealing medicine.But when Ben addmited that he was stealing from the camp I was really surprised and realised that from now on anyone can stab a knife in your back.

[Abel]

Well, I couldn't tell, but I knew Carley wouldn't lie to me, still it could have been another person, ie Lilly herself. Its legit though that its Ben, he's just a frightened kid, even Clem is more adult...

[United 23]

I always thought it was either Ben or Lilly. I know Ben is always nervous about stuff but he was getting way too panicky for it not be him. I also had a feeling Lilly might have just been trying to make all of it up so it looked like someone else done it and she was trying to figure out who.

[fanganga]

At first I had a little suspicion of Ben, but thought I was probably unjustified in going straight for the new guy. I had a little bit of a worry that it might have been Carley, mainly because she'd be about the worst person for Lee to have to condemn. I wasn't certain enough of either to name anyone in the RV - I read Ben's "I'm sorry" as a generalised "Oh shit" line rather than an admission of responsibility. It was during the confrontation when I thought I figured it out - see my thread here - I figured Kenny had the most motive, not trusting Lilly's assurances that they could defend the motel and figuring that the only way to protect his family was to go behind her back and pay off the bandits. Guess I was wrong - good thing the game didn't let me follow up on that "It was someone else" line.

[Milosuperspesh]

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/...lts&pollid=868

i wonder how many of you are full of 'swears' here

[TheWildcard]

Umm did everyone miss the X on the wall or something? Says to me that Ben may of been marking a weak point into the camp...As I said I suspect he was setting up the camp for a fall. Most likely being told "Kid we are going to take your camp and women no matter what you do. Best to just help us and we'll let you join us when its done." I mean otherwise why wouldn't he tell the group? Why and when was he meeting up with the bandits in the first place? People are down playing what Ben did....

[Milosuperspesh]

Originally Posted by Zeruis

Did anybody honestly think that Ben was going to confess right before Kenny hit that walker with the RV?

no, note it took ben to be alone with lee, also probably considering his actions and to suicide by train..

i kinda wish lee could of pushed him off the train... a bit like dangling omid over the bridge lol

[StrawberryRainPop]

How can there NOT be an option to kill Ben in Episode 3, i will never know. First chance i get, hes biting it.

I dont care if he has a family, i dont care if its front of clementine, and i dont care even if its during a reunion with someone he knows.

Hes going down.

[Red Panda]

Originally Posted by StrawberryRainPop

How can there NOT be an option to kill Ben in Episode 3, i will never know. First chance i get, hes biting it.

I dont care if he has a family, i dont care if its front of clementine, and i dont care even if its during a reunion with someone he knows.

Hes going down.

He's going to die. It seems almost a sure thing.

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Zeruis

Did anybody honestly think that Ben was going to confess right before Kenny hit that walker with the RV?

I thought he might have if given another minute or so.

[bazenji]

Originally Posted by SteveTheBlocks

Yeah, i know people are over-reacting about Carley's death.
If anything we should blame Lilly, She didn't wanna leave the motel, she knew the bandits were attacking, if we left sooner, no one would've died, Katjaa wouldn't have killed herself, Duck wouldn't have been bitten, Ben wouldn't have been responsible for their deaths, and Doug or Carley wouldn't have died.

We all wanted to kill Duck first, then we just felt bad for him at the end, Then we wanted to kill Larry, most of us decided to save him, and now we want to kill Ben? It's seriously not his fault.

It's because a lot of people had invested in Lilly and were trying to nurture a romance with her, so they're in total battered spouse syndrome right now ignoring that she was always screwed up from the day they met her.

Seriously, she tried to throw Clementine and Duck TO THE ZOMBIES.

Lee: "But they're just kids!"

Lilly: "The zombies out there don't care!"

She always plays the victim then goes right for the throat.

[bazenji]

Ben was on watch and he tried to brush off the broken flashlight with a joke. My first response was, "Why not just admit the flashlight so we can handle Lilly's craziness as soon as possible?" And then I found the meds...