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zgamer · 09/02/2012, 08:50 am

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Chuck at all. I like having someone who is generally optimistic and easy going. After all the stuff that happened in this episode, it's a welcomed attribute to have. Having a hobo is a nice change of character types in this story too. And he's voiced by the Bastion narrator? Awesome!

My problem with Chuck, however, is how his character integrated into the plot and his character growth. It feels like he was kind of forced in just to be the "magical mystical" character. You know what I mean. The "comes in and convenient solves problems" kind of guy. Movies have used the "magical mystical gay guy/old man/Morgan Freeman/etc" for years so I think we can recognize them. It's not a bad character, but sometimes a too convenient character.

Here's some things that bugged me about it:

- Somehow he manges to talk to everybody in the minute Lee walked to the boxcar and became everyone's best friend by giving them candy

- Raises no qualms about stealing his house, supplies or anything. I didn't expect a fight or anything, but maybe a bit more concern on his part.

- Has to have a pointed moment where he speaks the voice of reason and fixes all the problems immediately facing Clementine

- Mostly speaks in cryptic thoughtful dialogue. It's good dialogue, but it doesn't reveal much about his character

- No real character progression to speak of. Pretty much unchanged by the events around him. Yes he wasn't in it a lot but he was present for some big moments. Even Ben had character growth for his small role.

I'd be fine having him around, but I really hope they give him more of a personality and traits to make him a developed character instead of a convenient plot device. There's great potential for him. It just needs to be realized.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?

clutch rooster · 09/02/2012, 09:10 am

He's keeping his past a secret says he hasn't seen his family in 14 years but when you first enter the train cab there's a pic of chuck his wife and 2 kids above the savannah map but after you meet chuck its gone

Cornson · 09/02/2012, 09:15 am

I just find it slightly depressing that we lost Doug/carly, katja, duck and lilly and (and in the episode before that we lost mark and larry) and all we got from this was Chuck, Omar and what's her face? 0_o?

JabbaDaHuttX7 · 09/02/2012, 09:15 am

Eh, I like Chuck better than all the other new characters, but he didn't seem to 'solve' anything (yet). He just gave Lee some rational advice and seems like a pretty cool guy.

JabbaDaHuttX7 · 09/02/2012, 09:16 am

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Originally Posted by Cornson

I just find it slightly depressing that we lost Doug/carly, katja, duck and lilly and (and in the episode before that we lost mark and larry) and all we got from this was Chuck, Omar and what's her face? 0_o?

Chuck has the chance to be the ultimate bro to Lee. I already trust him more than I ever did Kenny.

Zeruis · 09/02/2012, 09:17 am

He just seems to be the laid-back type of person. It seems that no kind of conversation fazes him.

Kiel555 · 09/02/2012, 09:28 am

I think meeting a homeless man who is taking shelter in an abandoned train is somewhat plausible. Candy is probably one of the few calorie sources that has yet to spoil and he was probably observing the group for awhile before deciding that we were okay to approach...keep in mind Charles is alone, unarmed and not used to being around people.

I mean....if a fellow survivor approaches you, says "hi", is holding a guitar when you have a gun, and offers you some of what little food he has...is he unfriendly and not to be trusted or even liked?

dubesor · 09/02/2012, 09:34 am

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Originally Posted by clutch rooster

there's a pic of chuck his wife and 2 kids above the savannah map but after you meet chuck its gone

I was sure the picture was from the train conductor with the smashed head.
Wouldn't make sense for Charles to climb over the conductor, place a picture on the wall, climb over again without moving him... His pictures would be at his place in the boxcar.

So yea, that picture isn't chucks

Cyreen · 09/02/2012, 09:35 am

I'm with Clem and Lee - open eyes and mind, judgment pending.

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Originally Posted by clutch rooster

...there's a pic of chuck his wife and 2 kids above the savannah map but after you meet chuck its gone

That was the train conductor's family and the photo only disappeared after Kenny lost Katjaa and Duck. It's reasonable to assume he took down the happy family picture, as he's the one sitting there.

QuarterPounderVlad · 09/02/2012, 10:45 am

....I like chuck.
I think he's a really good man, But I think he has something that he didn't tell us. He acts ... Weird.
When he was approached Lee In the wagon I really thought he'd pull out a knife and Stab him in the heart. But I like him. He's a drunk, Yes, But He's nice. He acts nice, And wants the best for everyone. But, Now about the thing he's keeping hid. I think he has a dark secret yet to be revealed... What If he is a murderer, Ready to kill the group? What if, More people came that way, And decided to reside in the wagon, But he killed them.
I really think there's something dark about him. Let's see what telltale has In for us...
No haters please.

Wrighty · 09/02/2012, 10:47 am

Yeah, there does seem something wrong with him... Maybe I'm just paranoid.

There are theories that he's the St Johns Dad but not confirmed.

DreadMagus · 09/02/2012, 10:47 am

I think there's more to him than meets the eye.

It's also possible he's the guy on the radio.... That radio can't have a long range.

QuarterPounderVlad · 09/02/2012, 10:50 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreadMagus

I think there's more to him than meets the eye.

It's also possible he's the guy on the radio.... That radio can't have a long range.

Yeah, There can be that. Maybe he has a dual personality?
Telltale makes us think..

QuarterPounderVlad · 09/02/2012, 10:55 am

He must have a dark secret. He just looks like the type of person who kills.
I don't really have thoughts about him. He's nice so far..

dubesor · 09/02/2012, 10:59 am

there was blood in the boxcar

rachellouise85 · 09/02/2012, 11:00 am

He makes me uneasy. Don't know why. Maybe it's because he couldn't have been living in the train all the time, he would have slplooshed or something like the driver. So where was he? Has he really survived by himself? etc. He gives advice and talks about us, rather than talk about himself. etc.

Hopefully we don't go to sleep, and wake to find him and one of the group missing or something.

Cyreen · 09/02/2012, 11:01 am

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Originally Posted by dubesor

there was blood in the boxcar

That was Duck's blood.

DreadMagus · 09/02/2012, 11:02 am

Or your legs, if he really is one of the St. Johns....

dubesor · 09/02/2012, 11:11 am

Ah lol. true. Forgot about Duck.

QuarterPounderVlad · 09/02/2012, 11:42 am

It wouldn't surprise me at all If he went rebel on the group, and maybe kill someone. But yeah, Maybe He is a St. John, He reminds me of Danny A LITTLE.

Just a little.

09/02/2012, 08:50 am	#1
zgamer J-Z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eagle, Idaho Posts: 265	[SPOILER]Chuck/Charles - character/predictions Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Chuck at all. I like having someone who is generally optimistic and easy going. After all the stuff that happened in this episode, it's a welcomed attribute to have. Having a hobo is a nice change of character types in this story too. And he's voiced by the Bastion narrator? Awesome! My problem with Chuck, however, is how his character integrated into the plot and his character growth. It feels like he was kind of forced in just to be the "magical mystical" character. You know what I mean. The "comes in and convenient solves problems" kind of guy. Movies have used the "magical mystical gay guy/old man/Morgan Freeman/etc" for years so I think we can recognize them. It's not a bad character, but sometimes a too convenient character. Here's some things that bugged me about it: - Somehow he manges to talk to everybody in the minute Lee walked to the boxcar and became everyone's best friend by giving them candy - Raises no qualms about stealing his house, supplies or anything. I didn't expect a fight or anything, but maybe a bit more concern on his part. - Has to have a pointed moment where he speaks the voice of reason and fixes all the problems immediately facing Clementine - Mostly speaks in cryptic thoughtful dialogue. It's good dialogue, but it doesn't reveal much about his character - No real character progression to speak of. Pretty much unchanged by the events around him. Yes he wasn't in it a lot but he was present for some big moments. Even Ben had character growth for his small role. I'd be fine having him around, but I really hope they give him more of a personality and traits to make him a developed character instead of a convenient plot device. There's great potential for him. It just needs to be realized. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?

09/02/2012, 10:45 am	#10
QuarterPounderVlad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 586	Chuck/Charles... Thoughts. ....I like chuck. I think he's a really good man, But I think he has something that he didn't tell us. He acts ... Weird. When he was approached Lee In the wagon I really thought he'd pull out a knife and Stab him in the heart. But I like him. He's a drunk, Yes, But He's nice. He acts nice, And wants the best for everyone. But, Now about the thing he's keeping hid. I think he has a dark secret yet to be revealed... What If he is a murderer, Ready to kill the group? What if, More people came that way, And decided to reside in the wagon, But he killed them. I really think there's something dark about him. Let's see what telltale has In for us... No haters please.

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09/02/2012, 09:10 am	#2
clutch rooster Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5	He's keeping his past a secret says he hasn't seen his family in 14 years but when you first enter the train cab there's a pic of chuck his wife and 2 kids above the savannah map but after you meet chuck its gone

09/02/2012, 09:15 am	#3
Cornson Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Vejle, Denmark Posts: 79	I just find it slightly depressing that we lost Doug/carly, katja, duck and lilly and (and in the episode before that we lost mark and larry) and all we got from this was Chuck, Omar and what's her face? 0_o?

09/02/2012, 09:15 am	#4
JabbaDaHuttX7 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 309	Eh, I like Chuck better than all the other new characters, but he didn't seem to 'solve' anything (yet). He just gave Lee some rational advice and seems like a pretty cool guy.

09/02/2012, 09:17 am	#6
Zeruis Mundy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,944	He just seems to be the laid-back type of person. It seems that no kind of conversation fazes him.

09/02/2012, 09:28 am	#7
Kiel555 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bay area, California Posts: 575	I think meeting a homeless man who is taking shelter in an abandoned train is somewhat plausible. Candy is probably one of the few calorie sources that has yet to spoil and he was probably observing the group for awhile before deciding that we were okay to approach...keep in mind Charles is alone, unarmed and not used to being around people. I mean....if a fellow survivor approaches you, says "hi", is holding a guitar when you have a gun, and offers you some of what little food he has...is he unfriendly and not to be trusted or even liked?

09/02/2012, 10:47 am	#11
Wrighty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 431	Yeah, there does seem something wrong with him... Maybe I'm just paranoid. There are theories that he's the St Johns Dad but not confirmed.

09/02/2012, 10:47 am	#12
DreadMagus Arrgh! Thar Be Zombies! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: The space between worlds. Posts: 2,089	I think there's more to him than meets the eye. It's also possible he's the guy on the radio.... That radio can't have a long range.

09/02/2012, 10:55 am	#14
QuarterPounderVlad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 586	He must have a dark secret. He just looks like the type of person who kills. I don't really have thoughts about him. He's nice so far..

09/02/2012, 10:59 am	#15
dubesor Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 718	there was blood in the boxcar

09/02/2012, 11:00 am	#16
rachellouise85 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: England Posts: 334	He makes me uneasy. Don't know why. Maybe it's because he couldn't have been living in the train all the time, he would have slplooshed or something like the driver. So where was he? Has he really survived by himself? etc. He gives advice and talks about us, rather than talk about himself. etc. Hopefully we don't go to sleep, and wake to find him and one of the group missing or something.

09/02/2012, 11:02 am	#18
DreadMagus Arrgh! Thar Be Zombies! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: The space between worlds. Posts: 2,089	Or your legs, if he really is one of the St. Johns....

09/02/2012, 11:11 am	#19
dubesor Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 718	Ah lol. true. Forgot about Duck.

09/02/2012, 11:42 am	#20
QuarterPounderVlad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 586	It wouldn't surprise me at all If he went rebel on the group, and maybe kill someone. But yeah, Maybe He is a St. John, He reminds me of Danny A LITTLE. Just a little.