Get your shit together TTG!!! - open letter to TTG -

[NoHobo!]

As a paying customer I'm starting to get really pissed at you guys of TTG.

Don't get me wrong, I know that bugs are part of games, but what you are delivering here is just beyond my understanding.

- Corrupt savegames
- even after a full replay and re-Install savegames not as they are suppossed to work
- buggy ingame menu's (resolution goes back to 1024x768 after completion of an episode, ie Ep. 2, sound settings not as I set them before)
- entirely bugged game decision overview (see image below)


I mean wtf TTG?! Can't you even handle the simple task of creating proper savegame files?!

Protip: get rid of your "Testers" and hire players to do the job. They seem to do more than your playtesting staff, who probably just klick through the game like zombies and don't bother to deviate from that and thus don't figure out the bugs that most players encounter (probably mostly because real players at some point regret a decision they make, hit Escape on their keyboard and abort to main menu to load from the last checkpoint to do it again - but hey, guess what - that's not even possible because the menu then says ALL EPISODES are "COMING SOON", so they have to shut your #&§%&# game down and restart it to be able to do so..)

In other words: GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER TTG!! Or disappear from the gaming industry once and for all. Jeez...

ps: hey, don't get me wrong, I like your game but this sh!tty programming has to go. pardon my french but naturally I'm pissed to have to play though this sh!t over and over again... am I right or what?! [looking at other players]

EDIT: just found another bug. see images below.

[8Bit_System]

Your image doesn't load for me. Was that on purpose? *cough*

[Milosuperspesh]

it's a stat screen with the default 50% and bugged choice text with 'decision1 etc'

maybe if the op was tech savvy his computer wouldn't be a p.o.s

i reckon it's all down to fragmentation and old drivers and probably needs replacement parts..

[NoHobo!]

Originally Posted by 8Bit_System

Your image doesn't load for me. Was that on purpose? *cough*

The error must be on your end. Works fine for me, both preview picture and the link.

[Viden]

I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing a lot of these problems. There are plenty of potential fixes on the site you can try. I'll admit, none of them worked for me, but you'll never know until you try.

However, your demeanor is a little uncalled for. Yes, it's true these are issues that need to be fixed. Yelling or insulting won't win you any favors. I know your pain. I've ran through the gave two full times only to lose my progress each time. Just take it in stride. I've simply deleted the game in the hopes that the next release will fix some of these issues. When the final episode is out and these issues still remain, then I may not be so understanding. But for now, just sit back and wait. It's all we can do.

[Cyreen]

The self-censoring always amuses me.

[DreadMagus]

Constructive criticism goes a lot further....

[NoHobo!]

Originally Posted by Cyreen

The self-censuring always amuses me.

Not to sound like a grammar-nazi but it's "censoring", from censorship.

And I do it because I don't want to give any admin the excuse to delete my post while at the same time I can express my pain with this game...

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by NoHobo!

Not to sound like a grammar-nazi but it's "censoring", from censorship.

And I do it because I don't want to give any admin the excuse to delete my post while at the same time I can express my pain with this game...

"Telltale get your act together" didn't sound good then?

[8Bit_System]

Originally Posted by 8Bit_System

Your image doesn't load for me. Was that on purpose? *cough*

And there we go, don't we?

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by NoHobo!

Not to sound like a grammar-nazi but it's "censoring", from censorship.

And I do it because I don't want to give any admin the excuse to delete my post while at the same time I can express my pain with this game...

Actually you're right, that is what I meant. Roll around in it and enjoy it, it doesn't happen very often.

Self-Censuring would have been correct only if you were prepared to admit some of the error was yours, censure meaning judgment or condemnation.

[Icedhope]

Originally Posted by NoHobo!

Not to sound like a grammar-nazi but it's "censoring", from censorship.

And I do it because I don't want to give any admin the excuse to delete my post while at the same time I can express my pain with this game...

You can swear, just don't direct it towards anybody and use it in a demeaning manor.

Also.

Bugs are a normal part of games. You also have to realize that Telltale doesn't have a huge QA department like Bethesda, TreyArch, Ubisoft and the such so not all the bugs are caught..so a lot of the times some bugs still get through and another thing to factor is they have to try and launch these games quickly and in an episodic format.

[Viden]

Originally Posted by 8Bit_System

And there we go, don't we?

I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a chuckle out of this.

[Motordead]

"I'm angry! you can't reach a reasonable release date! I Hate Telltale!"
or...
"I'm angry! your game has bugs! I'm entitled to no bugs! I Hate Telltale!"

either way Telltale loses.

I for one welcome our new overlords. Telltale has made a great product, and while knowing it takes time to make something good, in the end there may still be a few small bugs under certain circumstances. I think this game is awesome, haters gonna hate.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by Motordead

"I'm angry! you can't reach a reasonable release date! I Hate Telltale!"
or...
"I'm angry! your game has bugs! I'm entitled to no bugs! I Hate Telltale!"

Wait, you forgot the "I'm angry! You killed my favorite character! I Hate Telltale!"

[Motordead]

Originally Posted by Cyreen

Wait, you forgot the "I'm angry! You killed my favorite character! I Hate Telltale!"

Lol forgot that one :P

[holeydonut]

IMO, the corrupt savegame issue is much more severe than just a QA group that isn't testing thoroughly. The ones who developed the save module have a severe weakness in their code.

Almost every game with a save feature prompts you with a warning message at the start of the game that if you see some icon or symbol, then the game is writing save data. At this point, it instructs you to never turn off or reset your console if you see that icon or you may corrupt save data.

Beyond that time, there should be no action taken by game code to corrupt save game data. In contemporary games, gamers trust that their progress won't be wiped by unexpected bad code. I know some people will say that game developers don't owe gamers anything, but I feel Telltale is violating an implied trust.

And things are made worse by holier than thou forum members who seem to push the idea of "shit happens deal with it and quit whining."

I think this is deplorable for TTG to refuse patches on key game flaws. Any other game developer with these bugs would be hung out to dry. Imagine if your Diablo III data, Borderlands 2 (soon to be released), or Mass Effect save states would be corrupt just because "shit happens."

It is unacceptable for Telltale to use their small studio size to skirt around making a game that can save user data... especially a title that relies so heavily on save states and decisions. If they can't code their save state feature properly, then they shouldn't be in the business of making games since gamers trust that TTG delivered a quality game.

Plain and simple, their game saving module has bad code in it. Their code should create shadow copies in the event a primary save is rendered useless due to whatever bad programming is causing corrupt saves. This has been an issue since Episode 1 - and the success of their game should have afforded them the resources to assign someone the task of fixing this serious issue.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by holeydonut

And things are made worse by holier than thou forum members who seem to push the idea of "shit happens deal with it and quit whining."

I'm very definitely holier than thou, so I'll take this.

First, your post falls under the category of "constructive criticism", minus the part I quoted. You are very entitled to voice your opinion. The part that's a bit annoying to the forum members you are so quick to criticize is that there is an actual "Open Discussion" thread or an "Episode 3 Review" thread (whichever is more applicable) both stuck to the top of the forum, to which these can be posted, because that's generally where they get moved to anyway.

[Eric Northman]

Originally Posted by NoHobo!

As a paying customer I'm starting to get really pissed at you guys of TTG.

Don't get me wrong, I know that bugs are part of games, but what you are delivering here is just beyond my understanding.

- Corrupt savegames
- even after a full replay and re-Install savegames not as they are suppossed to work
- buggy ingame menu's (resolution goes back to 1024x768 after completion of an episode, ie Ep. 2, sound settings not as I set them before)
- entirely bugged game decision overview (see image below)


I mean wtf TTG?! Can't you even handle the simple task of creating proper savegame files?!

Protip: get rid of your "Testers" and hire players to do the job. They seem to do more than your playtesting staff, who probably just klick through the game like zombies and don't bother to deviate from that and thus don't figure out the bugs that most players encounter (probably mostly because real players at some point regret a decision they make, hit Escape on their keyboard and abort to main menu to load from the last checkpoint to do it again - but hey, guess what - that's not even possible because the menu then says ALL EPISODES are "COMING SOON", so they have to shut your #&§%&# game down and restart it to be able to do so..)

In other words: GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER TTG!! Or disappear from the gaming industry once and for all. Jeez...

ps: hey, don't get me wrong, I like your game but this sh!tty programming has to go. pardon my french but naturally I'm pissed to have to play though this sh!t over and over again... am I right or what?! [looking at other players]

EDIT: just found another bug. see images below.

Had a similar problem on Uncharted 3 with my PS vita, this invisible lady had a conversation with me while holding a medallion (she had already exited the building in the back of a truck) I thought it was hilarious, and it didn't bother me in the least. I didn't have any such problem with TWD (I've never had any problem with TWD actually) even if you did, it's not that big of a deal.

[Viner16]

Had the InvisiDuck glitch, fall thru train glitch, and standing Chuck thru guitar glitch XD