It all was Kenny fault

[DreadMagus]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

yeah, lilly should have shot him as he was a danger to the group

LOL!!!

Nailed it!

[Kiel555]

Originally Posted by zenstrata

Episode 3 tried too hard. It made me stop caring about any of the characters. At this point I will not let myself become invested in the storyline of any of the remaining characters. I may finish the game sometime. But the loss of so many made me lose most of my interest in future games in the series.

I pretty much figured it was Ben as soon as I thought it over. My theory was he got caught by the bandits and they threatened him sometime, and so he caved and promised to get them stuff to leave him alone. That was my theory anyway. Turned out to be spot-on.

Oh, and I still did not care about duck. Even with the dick grayson snippets in there. When he went to the fence to show me the chalk. I just left him hanging there and did some other things for a while. Funny thing, I got an achievement for 'leaving duck hanging'. Was entertaining.

But back to the way this episode made me feel. Telltale killed off way too many characters at once. As I said, I have lost interest in the storyline. The party is gone. They won't be replaced by the new people because I will not become emotionally invested in any of them from here on out. Not even lee or clementine. The group dynamic built up among the earlier episodes is gone and can not be recovered.

I'm doing things differently in my game (trying to rebuild the group with Christa, Omid and Charles - we're a crew/team) but I think you may have the desired effect going into e4. I think you're supposed to not care about anyone or even what happens next going into e4 as new characters are introduced and die off....partially due or completely due to your lack of concern for them.

If what you are saying is "I'm now detatched", and others have said similar things as well, then maybe the next "theme" of the game will be to find yourself in a situation where you don't care about anyone and no cares about you either. Then add some walkers just to keep the tempo up.

Just a theory....

I agree it was all Kenny's fault with an assist from Ben. Kenny's fatal flaw is that he never extended the group concept beyond his immediate family. If other people are just there and you are not going to do what they say and they are not going to do what you say then it's time to part ways. Kenny should have packed up his group and been on his way. Instead, he undermined Lilly's leadership of the group, I did my fair share of this too initially, and remained a loose cannon the whole time. Him and Ben destroyed the group.

[Rock114]

The group could have held together if they left the motel after Ep 2. Yeah Kenny didn't do his part to keep us together, but there was no reason to stay in Macon after Larry died. The pharmacy was picked clean and bandits were attacking. Nobody in the group would need constant medication now, since Larry is gone. Staying in Macon was foolhardy with the lack of supplies and abundance of pissed off people with guns shooting at the group. If they had left after the dairy, there wouldn't have been a deal with the bandits, Duck wouldn't have been bitten, and Carley/Doug would still be alive.

Everyone messed up. Not just Kenny, or Ben, or Lilly, everyone contributed to the fracturing of the group.

[N7.]

She's afraid to leave the motel because Kenny blow up her father's brain in front of her eyes.

Would you traveling with someone that blow up your father's brain ?

Where's your logic ?

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by N7.

She's afraid to leave the motel because Kenny blow up her father's brain in front of her eyes.

Would you traveling with someone that blow up your father's brain ?

Where's your logic ?

by that logic, why is she living with him?

[Rock114]

The logic is that there were far more reasons to leave Macon after the encounter with the St. Johns than to stay. Bandits roamed the woods and took shots at the motel. The town was bursting at the seams with walkers, and there were virtually no supplies left. Staying meant almost certain death, and while leaving is not a guaranteed foolproof plan, there's still a chance of survival out there. A chance of finding supplies, perhaps even another safe haven. Macon was bust. I believe Kenny put it best when he said it was "Hell on Earth".

[YamiRaziel]

You can't know what's out there and being caught up on the road in the middle of the winter... that won't end well.

P.S Any idea how much time has passed since ep. 1?
I just started reading The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor and the book starts 72 hours after dead started coming back. It's referred that it is late September.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

You can't know what's out there and being caught up on the road in the middle of the winter... that won't end well.

P.S Any idea how much time has passed since ep. 1?
I just started reading The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor and the book starts 72 hours after dead started coming back. It's referred that it is late September.

i think it's about 3 months and a week

[YamiRaziel]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

i think it's about 3 months and a week

I think it's more like 2 months. If it is indeed 3 months and a week that would make the events of ep. 3 happen in January and that's already winter. I'm not American so I'm not sure when is snow usually expected to fall

My prediction is that ep.3 should be around early December and that's why Lilly says they can last through the winter with those supplies.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

I think it's more like 2 months. If it is indeed 3 months and a week that would make the events of ep. 3 happen in January and that's already winter. I'm not American so I'm not sure when is snow usually expected to fall

My prediction is that ep.3 should be around early December and that's why Lilly says they can last through the winter with those supplies.

but doesn't it say 3 months later at the beginning of episode 2 and then kenny says in episode 3 that they got the food from the car a week ago

[YamiRaziel]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

but doesn't it say 3 months later at the beginning of episode 2 and then kenny says in episode 3 that they got the food from the car a week ago

I'm not sure, that's why I ask Well the zombie outbreak is supposed to have started late September, but maybe they got it a bit wrong dunno.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

I'm not sure, that's why I ask Well the zombie outbreak is supposed to have started late September, but maybe they got it a bit wrong dunno.

i just checked and it does say 3 months later, i cant be bothered to find the kenny part but its at least 3 months

[YamiRaziel]

So it has to be around Christmas!

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

So it has to be around Christmas!

it must be, maybe Clementine will get her parents as a Christmas present

[Rock114]

Yeah, it says "THREE MONTHS LATER" at the start of episode 2, and Kenny states that you take the supplies out of the truck one week before episode 3 starts. It's the part when Lee is pulling the winch cable toward the trailer at the very start. So in the game, it's been Three months and a week since the pharmacy was overrun at the end of Episode 1.

Well, where would Rick's group be at this time? I'm fairly certain that Shane is already dead, right? If we had a general estimation of where Rick and Co. are in relation to Lee and Clem we could make an educated guess.

[DreadMagus]

Ah, I had been wondering how we'd been measuring the elapsed time.

[YamiRaziel]

I don't think Shane is dead yet. My memory is a bit foggy but as far as I can remember there was snow when Shane was killed.
I'm not sure what calendar are Telltale using but I think it's about time it starts snowing!
Maybe ep 4 will be a snowy episode. Episode 3 however feels like autumn... which is a bit unusual for December!
We already know that the wallpapers of the episodes are misleading (Duck being happy and alive at the train). Still the trailer for ep.4 didn't look like December as well.

[Rock114]

Well, Carley was bundled up more than she was last episode. I guess it could be getting colder, but it seems like we'd be given a more obvious sign than one character with an extra layer on.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by N7.

What are you talking about ? when I helped Larry he opened his eyes!!

His mouth moves, not his eyes.

Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

So it has to be around Christmas!

How do you figure? I agree, it's three months between 1 and 2 and another week between 2 and 3. Is September when the ZA started in the comics or is that just when Grimes woke up? From the landscape around Macon it's definitely autumn, it looks like October.