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Brohan · 10/05/2012, 08:32 pm

Who actually killed them/ let them live? And why?

I killed Danny because he is a sick fuck. thinking Lee's group will eat him after he is killed, and I killed Andy because she pulled Clementine's hair, & like in the trailer Lee said "... is gonna end up dead."

thestalkinghead · 10/05/2012, 08:37 pm

well this has been discussed but, in my definition killing either was just plain murder and i don't want to be a part of murder, so i didn't personally kill them

Phoenix VII · 10/05/2012, 08:38 pm

I killed both of them...their fates were sealed when I saw my bro Mark crawling on the ground without his legs. Poor Mark.

Rock114 · 10/05/2012, 08:47 pm

Well, I killed Danny after he gave me that very convincing speech, with the whole "I know, you can do it! I seen you do it in the woods! Strike me down, give in to your hatred!". I also killed Jolene, and helped kill Larry in the meat locker. When I beat Andy and saw the whole group looking at me, I felt like a murderer actually. Shot Jolene as soon as I could, helped with Larry, pitchforked Danny, drove Brenda into a walker's arms. I might have killed him if not for shooting Jolene, and Clem seeing me kill Danny after he said I was just like him or wahtever in the barn. As it was, I felt I had spilled more than enough blood and elected to leave him to whatever fate seemed best to him. I knew he probably wouldn't come back.

Kiel555 · 10/05/2012, 08:57 pm

I killed both brothers. Reason was because they murdered a friend of mine (Mark) and served him up for chow. I think the punishment fit the crime.

KMatt · 10/05/2012, 10:58 pm

Left them both for the walkers. No need to bloody my hands when the walkers can do it for me.

FoxxyFox · 10/06/2012, 12:12 am

Left them for the walkers and zombie-mummy Brenda

LadyJ · 10/06/2012, 01:15 am

I killed them both. Thought about leaving them for the walkers but decided to eliminate the possibility of 2 additional walkers instead.

TomaO2 · 10/06/2012, 02:15 am

I left them alive. There is a difference between killing those people out of anger and punishing them after they had been beaten. That said, I was extremely disappointed that karma killed them off. Their fate should have been decided by a group decision instead.

Leaving them on their own was not an option, in my mind. If we had just walked off and nothing further had happened I would have rewound my game to kill them off because there was no way I was going to let murderers like that keep the farm, the fence, the weapons and let the remaining two brothers keep on finding victims to kill off. They had to be stopped

If we had decided to destroy their fence and set off some additional noise so the walkers would come, however, that would have been an okay punishment. I also would have voted to execute them, had it come to that. In the absence of the courts, having my group judge and sentence him is as close to a fair trial as they would get. Not that they weren't completely guilty but it's the spirit of the thing. There is a right way and a wrong way to kill these people.

Plus, doing it this way would have given another moral decision. After all, making them prisoners wasn't a real option. The game should have had teh courage to tackle the question of what to do when you have captured unrepentant serial killers instead of letting the players "keep their hands clean" and letting karma do the dirty work. It's kind of a cop-out for a seriously minded game that deals with choice, like this one.

Natalie1213 · 10/06/2012, 06:30 am

I left them alive. Killing Danny would have made me just as bad as him/them, so I didn't do it. I didn't shoot Jolene either, and left Andy to be taken care of by the walkers. I figured that's a bigger punishment than killing them myself.

Zeruis · 10/06/2012, 08:20 am

I didn't kill them. There had already been enough bloodshed in the meat locker. As for Andy, he wanted to die, so I just left him there.

Bananapatcher · 10/06/2012, 08:24 am

I didn't kill Danny because he wasn't a threat anymore. I killed Andy because he still was.

KMatt · 10/06/2012, 08:39 am

On my original playthrough I didn't kill either. But on my second and third playthrough I did. Both of Andy's death scenes are pretty awesome (in a epic-movie-death-scene sort of way). Which ones have you seen and which one did you think was better? Lee kicking Andy into the fence or grabbing the gun and executing him?

Zeruis · 10/06/2012, 09:06 am

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Originally Posted by KMatt

On my original playthrough I didn't kill either. But on my second and third playthrough I did. Both of Andy's death scenes are pretty awesome (in a epic-movie-death-scene sort of way). Which ones have you seen and which one did you think was better? Lee kicking Andy into the fence or grabbing the gun and executing him?

I tried this too in my other save file. I like the idea of him dying by his own creation. I also love the look Lilly gives you if you kill Andy.

KMatt · 10/06/2012, 09:17 am

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Originally Posted by Zeruis

I tried this too in my other save file. I like the idea of him dying by his own creation. I also love the look Lilly gives you if you kill Andy.

Yeah and if you'd just helped Kenny kill her father too, that makes you feel all kinds of bad.

Rock114 · 10/06/2012, 09:40 am

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Originally Posted by KMatt

Yeah and if you'd just helped Kenny kill her father too, that makes you feel all kinds of bad.

Which is why I'm glad I decided to spare Andy at the very end. And I think shooting him is the better one, because Lee yells one final time as he steadies the rifle: "IT'S OVER!"

KMatt · 10/06/2012, 09:46 am

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Which is why I'm glad I decided to spare Andy at the very end. And I think shooting him is the better one, because Lee yells one final time as he steadies the rifle: "IT'S OVER!"

Yeah that is pretty awesome. I havn't enjoyed a game as much as I'm enjoying this game in a very long time. The writers are top-notch and the voice acting is perfect.

Really looking forward to the next episode.

RedKoolLoops · 10/06/2012, 09:54 am

I left them both alive.

After what just went down in that meat locker, I was still feeling pretty disturbed so I couldn't bring myself to off Danny in cold blood. Like Lee says, 'That's not how the world works now.'

The same went for Andy, although I did beat him to a pulp (because at that point my shock had turned to anger, but I still was never going to kill him). The moment that music started playing though and Andy had resigned to his fate actually made me sad.
I never thought I'd feel sad for the bad guys in a game like this.

thestalkinghead · 10/06/2012, 10:10 am

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Originally Posted by RedKoolLoops

I left them both alive.

After what just went down in that meat locker, I was still feeling pretty disturbed so I couldn't bring myself to off Danny in cold blood. Like Lee says, 'That's not how the world works now.'

The same went for Andy, although I did beat him to a pulp (because at that point my shock had turned to anger, but I still was never going to kill him). The moment that music started playing though and Andy had resigned to his fate actually made me sad.
I never thought I'd feel sad for the bad guys in a game like this.

it is pretty disturbing hearing someone that hates you ask you to kill them, i first noticed that in system shock 2

actually they both wanted to die, maybe they were deep down appalled at what they had become and just wanted it to end

Viner16 · 10/06/2012, 10:30 am

Well I killed Danny, but I left Andy alive to suffer with the knowledge that his entire family was dead in one night.

FOR MARK!

10/05/2012, 08:32 pm	#1
Brohan Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 87	So... about the St. John's Brothers Who actually killed them/ let them live? And why? I killed Danny because he is a sick fuck. thinking Lee's group will eat him after he is killed, and I killed Andy because she pulled Clementine's hair, & like in the trailer Lee said "... is gonna end up dead."

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10/05/2012, 08:37 pm	#2
thestalkinghead stay safe Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,945	well this has been discussed but, in my definition killing either was just plain murder and i don't want to be a part of murder, so i didn't personally kill them

10/05/2012, 08:38 pm	#3
Phoenix VII Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 255	I killed both of them...their fates were sealed when I saw my bro Mark crawling on the ground without his legs. Poor Mark.

10/05/2012, 08:47 pm	#4
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,780	Well, I killed Danny after he gave me that very convincing speech, with the whole "I know, you can do it! I seen you do it in the woods! Strike me down, give in to your hatred!". I also killed Jolene, and helped kill Larry in the meat locker. When I beat Andy and saw the whole group looking at me, I felt like a murderer actually. Shot Jolene as soon as I could, helped with Larry, pitchforked Danny, drove Brenda into a walker's arms. I might have killed him if not for shooting Jolene, and Clem seeing me kill Danny after he said I was just like him or wahtever in the barn. As it was, I felt I had spilled more than enough blood and elected to leave him to whatever fate seemed best to him. I knew he probably wouldn't come back.

10/05/2012, 08:57 pm	#5
Kiel555 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bay area, California Posts: 581	I killed both brothers. Reason was because they murdered a friend of mine (Mark) and served him up for chow. I think the punishment fit the crime.

10/05/2012, 10:58 pm	#6
KMatt Walkie-Talkie-Stalkie-Man Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 118	Left them both for the walkers. No need to bloody my hands when the walkers can do it for me.

10/06/2012, 12:12 am	#7
FoxxyFox 100% Foxxyfied Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 209	Left them for the walkers and zombie-mummy Brenda

10/06/2012, 01:15 am	#8
LadyJ Resident Pragmatist Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 187	I killed them both. Thought about leaving them for the walkers but decided to eliminate the possibility of 2 additional walkers instead.

10/06/2012, 02:15 am	#9
TomaO2 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 33	I left them alive. There is a difference between killing those people out of anger and punishing them after they had been beaten. That said, I was extremely disappointed that karma killed them off. Their fate should have been decided by a group decision instead. Leaving them on their own was not an option, in my mind. If we had just walked off and nothing further had happened I would have rewound my game to kill them off because there was no way I was going to let murderers like that keep the farm, the fence, the weapons and let the remaining two brothers keep on finding victims to kill off. They had to be stopped If we had decided to destroy their fence and set off some additional noise so the walkers would come, however, that would have been an okay punishment. I also would have voted to execute them, had it come to that. In the absence of the courts, having my group judge and sentence him is as close to a fair trial as they would get. Not that they weren't completely guilty but it's the spirit of the thing. There is a right way and a wrong way to kill these people. Plus, doing it this way would have given another moral decision. After all, making them prisoners wasn't a real option. The game should have had teh courage to tackle the question of what to do when you have captured unrepentant serial killers instead of letting the players "keep their hands clean" and letting karma do the dirty work. It's kind of a cop-out for a seriously minded game that deals with choice, like this one.

10/06/2012, 06:30 am	#10
Natalie1213 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 60	I left them alive. Killing Danny would have made me just as bad as him/them, so I didn't do it. I didn't shoot Jolene either, and left Andy to be taken care of by the walkers. I figured that's a bigger punishment than killing them myself.

10/06/2012, 08:20 am	#11
Zeruis Mundy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,980	I didn't kill them. There had already been enough bloodshed in the meat locker. As for Andy, he wanted to die, so I just left him there.

10/06/2012, 08:24 am	#12
Bananapatcher Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 21	I didn't kill Danny because he wasn't a threat anymore. I killed Andy because he still was.

10/06/2012, 08:39 am	#13
KMatt Walkie-Talkie-Stalkie-Man Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 118	On my original playthrough I didn't kill either. But on my second and third playthrough I did. Both of Andy's death scenes are pretty awesome (in a epic-movie-death-scene sort of way). Which ones have you seen and which one did you think was better? Lee kicking Andy into the fence or grabbing the gun and executing him?

10/06/2012, 09:54 am	#18
RedKoolLoops Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UK Posts: 138	I left them both alive. After what just went down in that meat locker, I was still feeling pretty disturbed so I couldn't bring myself to off Danny in cold blood. Like Lee says, 'That's not how the world works now.' The same went for Andy, although I did beat him to a pulp (because at that point my shock had turned to anger, but I still was never going to kill him). The moment that music started playing though and Andy had resigned to his fate actually made me sad. I never thought I'd feel sad for the bad guys in a game like this.

10/06/2012, 10:30 am	#20
Viner16 Ezekiel has a tiger... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Ass That Spits Charm Posts: 784	Well I killed Danny, but I left Andy alive to suffer with the knowledge that his entire family was dead in one night. FOR MARK!