[SPOILERS]The Walking Dead Episode 4 REVIEW Thread

[XIM1dg3tIX]

Can someone tell me how you find out about mollies backstory (3rd tape) I would really like to know also I love mollie so upset that she didn't stay she was so badass everytime I saw her I was like she's got to be from Assasins creed !!!!

[Fearthebadgers]

Thank you Garry! Way to go on ep4! FINE continuation in raising the bar - after years of gaming I can say this series as a whole so far has some of the best writing Ive ever experienced in a game. Fantastic Telltale... more! more!

[8Bit_System]

Baffled... again... Telltale, you should really be proud of yourselves! Well done!

[dee23]

Originally Posted by reversingmemories

Yes, I sided with Lilly in the meat locker. Kenny went to help rescue Clem. He said how I sometimes didn't have his back, but he did say that I helped his family all the time, so that made him come along with me.

I guess the game is kind of random then because I did everything for his family. I saved his son, fed him in episode 1 and 2, saved his wife 3 times, saved Kenny in Savannah and only refused to kill Larry and Kenny refused to help me find Clementine. Atmittedly I did kick his arse on the train but surely saving his life should trump that. Kenny has been antagonistic towards me ever since I refused to kill Larry. Even at the end of episode 2 when he said there would be fall out I chose not to respond so he wouldn't be more upset and he said he will do things his way, drawing a line and deciding to stand against me.

Maybe it was still possible to convince Kenny to come but I got so angry when he reacted the way he did and turned his back on Clementine despite me reminding him that Clementine is responsible for the boat and his salvation that I just told him to go and fuck himself. Lee said it with such anger and hatrid that Kenny's ties to the group are completely broken. What was interesting is that the rest of the group agreed with me and left Kenny by himself which reassured me that I was in the right and Kenny was being unreasonable and selfish.

[XicoFelipe]

Btw is it actually possible to save Molly? I've trying to shoot that thing for almost half an hour but I always hit her.

EDIT: Nevermind. I finally did it.

[Pooter214]

Originally Posted by XIM1dg3tIX

Can someone tell me how you find out about mollies backstory (3rd tape) I would really like to know also I love mollie so upset that she didn't stay she was so badass everytime I saw her I was like she's got to be from Assasins creed !!!!

Lee finds a combo on a paper in the zombie doc's pocket when you search him for the tape. Then there is a locker as your walking to the nurses office. The third tape is in there.

I was amazed with this episode. I got everyone to come with me with no problems at all. Kenny had my back right away, just as I have through the whole series. I am just put set that Lee got bit. I have working on being a "father" figure to Clem this whole time, and now she loses a "second" dad. I feel so bad for her. But there is a reason why the people took her, and wanted to take her.. Maybe her blood carries the cure to the out break.. lol.

[ruairi46]

The question is when lee dies who will clem be left with if she lives. I wonder... also
THHHHHHHHATTTT WOMMMMAAANNNN IS PREGNANT foget her name but it's obvs with tape 2 and her puking.

[CocaColin]

By the time I finished, 16% of players got everyone in the group to go with Lee to find Clem. Anyone that did, how did you convince Kenny? Part of me feels like it has to do back in Episode 2, if you helped him kill Larry or not.

[dee23]

Originally Posted by SouthWardRB

WARNING: SPOILERS ARE AHEAD, DO NOT GO FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED EPISODE 4


This episode was the worst (emotionally) episode yet. You thought the last two were bad? I laugh at that.

This whole episode really brought out the fun and sadness into this game. No longer is Lee, Rick in disguise, the unexpected happens.

At the beginning all I saw was the same WD things we see all the time. Zombies everywhere, drama, getting pissed at Ben, the works. I soon saw tha his liaise was far from it. The boy in the attic, he looked like Duck, and that saddend me morally. So from the beggining I was already fucked in the mind. But I soon forgot about that as TWD went Dead Island on us and made us go through a lot of zombies in a sewer.

After some events we found lee and friends at the Crawford school gathering supplies. Oh, btw, the boat plan failed. But brave Clem found a boat that needed parts. Anywho nothing of importance really happend. But when we escaped the place we found the Kick Ass Lee and he killed dozens of undead. It was fun to speculate. But soon after, the moment, that now has little importance, was to save or let Ben die. See he was about to fall. And the classic "leave me; so you can escape" scene happend. I grew fond of Ben, but Kenny was my bro, and Ben wanted to die, so Ben drifted onto the wood floor. Only to soon be eaten by the damned. I wished he died BEFORE the zombies we him; as I felt sorrow and dipair from watching him die. From whom the bell tolls. Now I can't even sing the Metallica song, as the horror doesn't end there. This guy Vernon, who is a doctor; but kinda an ass. See he took Clem at the end, he thought it was best...
But I did not approve of such thing. So Lee went to look for his daughter he never had. Only to slowly grab the fucking walky talky, and get BITTEN.
At that point I was like "SEASON 2 BETTE HAVE CLEM AS A TEENAGER OT SOMEHING, CAUSE THE LEEGACY SHALL NOT PERISH!" Event event event, I decided to look for Clem by myself, I have no idea if lee is gonna turn and possibly bite someone.

Well, this is the walking dead..............

What is special about the walking dead game is that it shares the same time line and universe as the comics. So when Lee is with his group in episode 2, Rick is with his. The story in the game can jump a few months ahead to catch up to what is going on in Rick's story but it can't go years into the future beyond where Rick is currently in the comics. In Rick's story his son Carl is still only 9 in the comics but was 8 at the time of Lee's story. Rick has been in the apocalypse for under 2 years. So I don't think Telltale will take the liberty of taking the game series years into the future. I don't think it will be more than months later when we continue into season 2. Having the game run almost parralel to the comic is what makes the game so authentic. Lee goes to The Green's farm before Rick so we see places and people from the comics.

[Sentient Orange]

Rather than start a big flame war, i'm simply going to say that i wasn't going to actually play this episode at all because of how episode 3 was so dissapointing, but i did end up playing it anyway.
I feel like this episode was better than episode 3, but still not anywhere near as good as what you guys are saying it was. I felt like it was cliche and had bad story writing, it got better in the middle and i actually kind of enjoyed the game in the middle of it but the start and finish of this episode let it down a bit.

[dee23]

Originally Posted by 2-_-DEAD

Has anybody figured out if we can avoid being bitten? I just don't see how this season can end good if we are gonna die lol.

I don't think it will end good for Lee, but he may feel that his mission is accomplished if he gets Clementine to safety. This is a common theme in post apocolyptic movies like in the Road when the man dies after getting the boy to the beach where he meets a family who cares for him and I am Legend when Dr Robert Neville sacrifices his life so Anna and the boy can escape and get to the safe zone.

Clementine is the mission. The game is really seeing this apocalyptic world through Lee's eyes and his drive through out the game has been geared towards getting Clementine to safety. If Christa can stay alive and take over as Clementine's care taker then Lee would have his victory and his redemption. Though i'm sure he would have wanted to survive and live with her it is actually his desire to keep her safe that has kept him going this far.

[Kaydren]

This game man, it fucks with my emotions. When Kenny made his little speech about going with me to find clementine because I've had his back I shed a tear. Makes me upset that Lee didn't even get to say goodbye to Clementine because I made her cry about her parents. I feel like a douche bag. I killed Ben because I couldn't stand him anymore. Even though I hated him for what he did it still was kinda hard to let him go. Sad to see Molly go, she was a badass.

[dee23]

Originally Posted by NeonBlade

I'm surprised so many people have trouble shooting the Zombie off of Molly. I did it on my first try, which is fortunate since I do not ever restart or replay. I'll replay when all 5 eps are here.

I replay certain sequences like when I was fighting Molly. There was no way I was gonna let Lee get beaten by a girl. That would be ridiculous. Since some sequences have to be replayed any way like when you drop to your death when jumping from roof top to roof top if you don't catch Molly's hand in time or when your foot get's stuck on the stairs during the zombie shoot out I don't see anything wrong with replaying sequences to achieve the story you want, what with this game being a tailor made experience an all.

I managed to beat Kenny on the train on my first attempt but if I had failed I would have redone it because I can't stand Kenny and wouldn't want Lee to be going around with the bruise on his face left by Kenny.

[ruairi46]

Clem shot the zombie of molly for me..

[k0pernikus]

Originally Posted by CocaColin

By the time I finished, 16% of players got everyone in the group to go with Lee to find Clem. Anyone that did, how did you convince Kenny? Part of me feels like it has to do back in Episode 2, if you helped him kill Larry or not.

Kenny was pretty antagonistic this whole episode towards me. Yet I appealed to his family values. Something about "Clementine is my family" and he gives in.

[dee23]

Originally Posted by Matrox Yang

Kenny's been my bro all through the game- I even sided with him in the meat locker. So why when I ask him to come with me does he say I wouldn't do the same for him. This has been the first big time where he hasn't treated me like a pal.

I think the game can be kind of random like that. The same thing happened to me when I played episode 2. Even though I mostly sided with him and supported his family through episode 1 he told me I couldn't come with him when he fixed the RV. This pissed me off because he wouldn't even have the RV or the motor inn if Lee didn't kill all the walkers with Carly. When I replayed the episode using the same game save from episode 1 he said I could come with him.

I have lost count of all the times I saved Kenny's family members but I definitely remember saving Kenny in the streets of Savannah since it was only the day before he refused to help me find Clementine. Apparently he wasn't going to help Clementine because i'm selfish and I have never had his back and he wanted me to see how it feels. He's quite the twisted fucker when he's angry. I hope he dies terribly.

[NeonBlade]

Originally Posted by dee23

I replay certain sequences like when I was fighting Molly. There was no way I was gonna let Lee get beaten by a girl. That would be ridiculous. Since some sequences have to be replayed any way like when you drop to your death when jumping from roof top to roof top if you don't catch Molly's hand in time or when your foot get's stuck on the stairs during the zombie shoot out I don't see anything wrong with replaying sequences to achieve the story you want, what with this game being a tailor made experience an all.

I managed to beat Kenny on the train on my first attempt but if I had failed I would have redone it because I can't stand Kenny and wouldn't want Lee to be going around with the bruise on his face left by Kenny.

Obviously replaying mandatory death sequences is a must, but rewinding to gain a desired effect is dishonest. It completely removes the tension of a game like this, because if you simply messed up. You can just go back and replay it.

Not only is it dishonest, it is emotionally self serving and people who rewind like this to me are duplicitous people; because they cannot make a decision, OR , and they are afraid to "fail" and live with the consequences; take it on the chin and move on.

I think that is also another psychological strength to Tell Tales game than choosing who lives and dies.

[AndreewwwF]

I totally agree with you! I ended up hating Lily's guts because she killed Carley, she was my favourite character apart from Clemmy! But in a strange way I miss her, I wonder what she would've done in this ep. Would she have came with me at the end. I think her and Kenny would've killed one another though. If I could have one character back it'd definitely be Carley, I...I loved her man!

[AndreewwwF]

Absolutely loved this ep! Totally gutted about Chuck, didn't really like him at first but when I saw him risk his life for Clemmy and us it made me like him. Ben was pissing me off during this episode but I still ended up saving him, like I (Lee) has said before, 'we're strongest when we're together,' and what Clem said, 'We don't leave friends behind.' CANNOT believe that Lee's bitten, did NOT see that one coming! That's what makes this game so amazing. When Lily shot Carley, I actually gasped! Same when I saw that Lee was bitten and a few other points along the game. I MISS CARLEY SO MUCH! I got everyone except Ben to come with me into the next episode, I panicked and triple dotted when Ben said he'd stay behind and he ended up doing it. Don't mind too much. As long as I get Clem back safely I don't care. Roll on episode five!

[dee23]

Originally Posted by zivi7

This will probably drown in the flood of responses, but after all the praise about the choices I wanted to point out some negative things of the implementation I noticed, mainly in the school.

There seems to be no apparant entry point for the walkers in front of the room with the medical supplies, they seem to just come out of nowhere after you closed the main entrance with the hatchet.

The first time you make it back from the garage only with the help of Molly. When you go back there to get the tape from the Doc suddenly this doesn't matter, there's a just a loading screen and you are back in the school.

After watching the second video Lee tells Christa and Vernon he'd watch the third one while they go ahead. But the game puts you in front of the two old videos. I ended up watching both old tapes again because I couldn't be sure which one was the third one now. It would have been so much better if the next screen would have been Lee at the camcorder with just the third tape as option there. THEN he could have put this third tape next to the others on the desk in case the player wants to watch one of them again.

The floor I noticed was when Lee was talking to Christa after she became emotional in the nurse office. Lee asked if she was o.k and said he noticed she had been different for last few days or something to that effect but he had only known her for a matter of hours. He met her the afternoon after Duck and Kat died. They arrived at Savannah a little while later and had that discussion in the evening. I also thought it was strange that know one asked me if I saw Chuck on my travels and more importantly that Lee didn't mention that he found Chuck dead in the sewers. I still enjoyed the game though.

I would have liked the opportunity to look for Clem's parents though since Lee had promised Clem he would on the train. I think his broken promise is the reason she left. I think she left voluntarily. If she had struggled Lee would have woken up what with him sleeping in the same room. I think she left either with Vernon or by herself to follow the person on the radio because she was upset Lee wasn't going to help her find her parents anymore. When I play again I will lie and tell her we will search for her parents and see if she leaves the same way or if there are signs of a struggle in the house.