Why would people bring Clem to Crawford?

[Acadias]

My reason, she needs to learn these things now. It's the best time for her to learn these things when shes being protected by all the adults. Shes in danger everywhere, might as well be in danger with me watching over.

[Rommel49]

To paraphrase Chuck in Ep. 3 "you have to treat her as a living person - girl, boy, young, old... doesn't matter anymore. You're either alive or you're not".

I also had doubts about leaving her alone; even when she was with a small group of adults, she still slipped out of the house to come find me. Leaving her with basically no adult supervision? Oh, hell no.

Both options sucked (in my view) and I struggled with it. I went with the devil I thought I knew over the devil I didn't. She wanted to come along, and I figured if I left her alone she would've followed anyway - she hasn't exactly been listening to Lee lately. Atleast with having her along for the trip, she was within sight of the entire group.

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by FollowLilly

for the first question, that has clearly failed to work the past few times you tried, half the reason for bringing her is that she doesnt wander off on her own

the other half is, theres some creepy guy that knows where you live, so u cant leave here there alone

With leaving her you have to be sure she won't leave and she didn't. I trusted Clem to get the message that going out alone was bad.

And to those who say you weren't sure if she could shoot the mystery guy because he was alive, what's she meant to do at Crawford. All it takes in Crawford is for one asshole to line up his sights at Clem and fire. Or she could get hit in crossfire. Just seems that Clem getting killed in Crawford seems a lot more likely than her not being able to hide from/kill maybe Omid and maybe mystery guy.

[RafaelBrasileiro]

I would not leave she alone in a house with Omid dying in a world full of zombies and the guy's walkie talkie could kidnap her, she would be useful in crawford, she can shoot.
or just think about the following:
If Ben went to Crawford, why she could not go too?

[chaz99]

Clem had already proved her worth on at least three occasions. The meatlocker, and twice in the train station. We (were) a team. So she came along.

[Dewin50]

I really didin't want to take her with me since we were gonna face Armed guys in their territory. But the thing that got me to do it was the thought of that Walkie-Talkie guy who seems obsesst with Clementine (Maybe just so he can get to Lee and the group) but that dosent manner, he's out there watching. Omid cant do nothing either if that would happend.

[LadyJ]

I think it's pretty obvious that leaving Clem alone in a house with a sick damn near dying guy who could turn at any second was not the best solution. He couldn't defend her or even promise to stay awake or alive.

Secondly, what if the group didn't make it back or were unable to get back to the house and she's just stranded there? Remember the kid in the attic?

No, it wasn't great that she had to go but really what choice was there?

[CapnJay]

I don't trust Omid to not turn while we're gone. I don't trust Clem to not follow me to Crawford and get kidnapped. At least if she's with me I can keep an eye on her. She even followed me when Ben was supposed to be watching her. Of course in the Vote to leave Ben or not she guilted me into keeping Ben. Dammit Clem I love ya. But why are you so protective of Ben?

[cormoran]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

I honestly don't understand people who take Clem on the mission. They plan to sneak into a base at night filled with people with guns who have probably been trained and are pretty twisted people. If you leave her at least you can give her a gun and tell her to hide?

Anyone care to explain taking Clem on the mission with them?

The man on the walkie-talkie.

I figured if I left her there with only a semi conscious/possibly dieing Omid to protect her I'd return to find her dead or missing.

Remember with walkie talkie guy it isn't a question of if she could shoot him, but a question of if she would shoot him. By the time she realises she probably should it'd likely be too late for her. Atleast in Crawford she knows to shoot first (which she did).

It's mainly down to a lack of options though. I'd have left Clem behind if someone more able-bodied like Christa stayed behind too.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

With leaving her you have to be sure she won't leave and she didn't. I trusted Clem to get the message that going out alone was bad.

I didn't. Sure, she might be safer at the house, but only if she actually stayed there. God forbid she tried following me alone again, except this time at night.

Besides, I figured if things went sideways at Crawford, their people would probably direct their attention on the group of armed adults, not the kid.

[CQ76]

Because taking her was safer than leaving her alone with Omid, who could have very easily died & turned. And leaving her with Ben was a worse option. They last time she was left with someone she walked alone to the waterfront. Good, bad or ugly...her safest place was with Lee.

[Sox&Rocks22]

Ok, so I brought her along because I was 90% certain Omid was a dead man and even if he didnt die, Clem would be on her own. The trek into Crawford was a stealth mission, so the plan was to get in and out without being seen, (element of suprise, nobody sees us, minimal danger)but mostly I figured Clem would be safer with the group. I didnt want to get back just to find her zombified or kidnapped.....oh wait.

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

I honestly don't understand people who take Clem on the mission. They plan to sneak into a base at night filled with people with guns who have probably been trained and are pretty twisted people. If you leave her at least you can give her a gun and tell her to hide?

Anyone care to explain taking Clem on the mission with them?

Omid looked like he was about 20 minutes away from buying the farm. Since Clem wasn't able to pull the trigger on a zombie that she didn't know, would she really be able to do it to Omid?

[Donut Funn]

Taking her to Crawford: She's by your side with the rest of the group. You know she's safe and she is always by your side.

Leaving her at the house: Leave her alone with only a bed-ridden one-trip-away-from-death guy, also knowing that there's some stalker out there watching her.

Yeeeeahhh... Crawford all the way.

And I was NOT going to let her down and go back on my word AGAIN (about how we always need to stick together, we're a team, etc).\

Plus, not taking Clem also makes the chance of Molly dying 100x greater, so that was another pro to taking her.

[Red Panda]

Originally Posted by LadyJ

I think it's pretty obvious that leaving Clem alone in a house with a sick damn near dying guy who could turn at any second was not the best solution. He couldn't defend her or even promise to stay awake or alive.

Secondly, what if the group didn't make it back or were unable to get back to the house and she's just stranded there? Remember the kid in the attic?

No, it wasn't great that she had to go but really what choice was there?

I didn't think about her getting stranded. That's a good point.

[NeonBlade]

Its a clear example of why some people are unfit to raise children. No matter how doe eyed Clem got, I was not bringing her on that mission. I had no idea it would have been over run by Zombies, which is still horrible, but not as bad as I imagined dealing with Militant Darwinists that clearly hold no regard for life. It is pure irresponsibility to bring Clem to Crawford.

You have to know when to tell children, NO!

She was in a gated, well fortified house, with an attic, she could have secured herself in. The only real danger was Omid, although the game pulled a plot contrivance on me by somehow a lone walker managed to stumble into the house which Clem locked in a closet.

[Degenerate10]

Omid was sick and possibly going to turn into a zombie. At that time in the game she hasn't proven she could kill a zombie yet. The guy on the walkie-talkie could still be out there. A herd could storm the house. She was safer with a group of armed people regardless.

[Rock114]

Originally Posted by Degenerate10

Omid was sick and possibly going to turn into a zombie. At that time in the game she hasn't proven she could kill a zombie yet. The guy on the walkie-talkie could still be out there. A herd could storm the house. She was safer with a group of armed people regardless.

A group of armed people, who were very well likely to be shot at by a much bigger group of much more heavily armed people?

[NeonBlade]

Originally Posted by Degenerate10

Omid was sick and possibly going to turn into a zombie. At that time in the game she hasn't proven she could kill a zombie yet. The guy on the walkie-talkie could still be out there. A herd could storm the house. She was safer with a group of armed people regardless.

Good grief. Have we humans become so sedentary we can't even prioritise threats even in a fictional world? This is the worst logic I have ever heard....

[TomaO2]

I told her she and I were a team. I told her I was willing to leave the group and go out with her alone. If that ever happened. The option to leave her behind no longer exists. It was a stated goal of the writers that having Clem tied you to having a bigger group. That was why I stayed with Kenny, Lilly and the rest even though it might have made more sense for me to go out on my own (or with just Carley, she rules) but I would stay with the group because it could keep her safe.

I can't rely on anyone else. She needs to toughen up. WE need to be able to go out on our own at any time. So keeping her safe from dangers, no matter how much we may want to do so, is counterproductive.

The goal is to make Clem as tough as possible, not hide her away safely, so she comes.