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Old 12/24/2012, 07:53 pm   #1
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Arrow If Clem is the Protagonist I will not buy season 2 and heres why!

Plain & Simple









-I can not handle anymore of clem.
-Clem as a protagonist would ruin season 2.
-Season 1 I wanted to focus on survival not be a dad.
-Clem got very annoying towards the end and there was no choice in not
includeing her in every possible situation.


Season 2


1. Bring in a new group of survivors.

2. Leave old baggage behind and have it stay there (leave clem story alone start fresh)

3. Improve some gameplay mechanics like adding in some more gunplay vs horde without being in a cuttscene ( but keep relative structure from season 1 as a base)

4. Add in more group survival dynamics (Like the end of mass effect 2)

5. Keep same storywriters but like I said above, introduce new group of survivors.






Just my opinion. Agree or disagree but as always don't get butthurt.

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Old 12/24/2012, 08:18 pm   #2
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Plain & Simple3. Improve some gameplay mechanics like adding in some more gunplay vs horde without being in a cuttscene ( but keep relative structure from season 1 as a base)

This was meant to be a point-and-click adventure game, so being in a "cutscene" is just how it's going to work. It was always going to be about the emotional aspects, and approaching gameplay in an alternative fashion. I mean it's fine if you didn't like Clementine, but for me she is what made the storyline stand out from other video game stories, and gave me a reason to actually survive in a horrible world.

I think AMC's The Walking Dead Survival Instincts will have you covered on the FPS/action department. So, I'd like to see Telltale Games continue as they are, because there's enough stagnation as it stands in the gaming marketplace. Using more action is what killed Resident Evil and Survival Horror in the first place, so yeah, let's not go in that direction.
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Old 12/24/2012, 08:22 pm   #3
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Nice insight however I didn't mean make it an FPS..... I meant more gunplay like the house breach in episode 4 or the Bandit Raid.


( but keep relative structure from season 1 as a base)
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Old 12/24/2012, 08:46 pm   #4
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I wouldn't mind a little more of those situations, but too much gunplay, and it would be closer to an On-Rails shooter, which is the kind of gameplay I'm not too fond of in a solo experience. I'd rather have a straight up FPS at that point, and for people who haven't heard about it yet, Survival Instincts sounds fun, but I really haven't seen any actual footage to really impress me or show that they are going to deliver on their promises.

Nice Daryl macro BTW.
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Old 12/24/2012, 08:46 pm   #5
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Nice insight however I didn't mean make it an FPS..... I meant more gunplay like the house breach in episode 4 or the Bandit Raid.


( but keep relative structure from season 1 as a base)
That simply isn't how this game was envisioned, i think. It's not about killing zombies at all, if you want more of that, you should try the "Survival Instincts" game coming out.

As for not wanting Clementine, well it seems she was one of the main focus points for the entirety of season 1.

I haven't watched the TV show at all, but from what i can gather that dude in the picture(Merle?) is a popular character with the audience. I'm sure there are a few people out there who wanted/continue to want him dead or out of the picture somehow, but the majority seems to enjoy having him around. The same with Clementine.
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Old 12/24/2012, 08:49 pm   #6
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I haven't watched the TV show at all, but from what i can gather that dude in the picture(Merle?) is a popular character with the audience. I'm sure there are a few people out there who wanted/continue to want him dead or out of the picture somehow, but the majority seems to enjoy having him around. The same with Clementine.
It's Daryl, Norman Reedus's character. Merle is his brother.
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Old 12/24/2012, 10:39 pm   #7
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I fully endorse these ideas.

I can find no flaws to them.
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Old 12/24/2012, 11:09 pm   #8
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I wouldn't mind seeing Clem at some point in season 2, but you're right she shouldn't be in the spotlight like in S1. S1 was cool as a dad simulator, but hopefully season 2 will contain all new types of feels.
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Old 12/25/2012, 01:18 am   #9
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Screw gunplay. I'd rather have harder puzzles and more branching decisions, if they were to improve upon anything - and the studio got a lot of exposure with this game, so with a bigger team, they can easily make that a reality.

I mean, TWD was my game of the year...if they took that and made decisions branch out better, reduced some of the framerate issues, and made puzzles more difficult (or at least more in depth and stimulating), the game might be my favorite EVER.
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Old 12/25/2012, 03:31 am   #10
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heres my reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOcV4...1pSg&index=159

now shut up.
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Old 12/25/2012, 03:43 am   #11
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Can the term "butthurt" die a slow death now, preferably buried next to "this"?

Also, huge sigh to this post.
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Old 12/25/2012, 03:46 am   #12
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The FPS game has already stolen Daryl muthafuckin Dixon and Merle, so we wont be getting them.
I would like to play as some new characters. But the old characters need to appear too.
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Old 12/25/2012, 07:04 am   #13
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You want to shoot people all the time buy COD. Stick to story telling..Thats the unique part but I cant understand not wanting Clem. Shes a unique and great charecter and you just want to throw that away... what a waste that would be. You need someone to look after. It gave meaning and consequence rather than ill 'Kill him, who cares' its oh crap someone may be watching. Clem should be a big part but... have 2 charecters more important than her. Back in lime light season 3 but keep her about.
Personally Id like Clem to stay... she made this game and not shooting scenes. We have enough shooter games
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Old 12/25/2012, 07:54 am   #14
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I'm fine with not playing as Clem or Omid or Christa, and getting an entirely new group of survivors.

However, regardless of which route Telltale goes I think Clem's story needs to be resolved. Having her disappear entirely from the universe after a cliffhanger, would be more than a little disappointing. Players want to know that Lee saved Clem, not that she got eaten by walkers or met some horrible fate at the hands of bandits shortly afterwards.

If we are playing as a member of a completely new group, at some point in the story we need to come across Clem, and Omid and Christa, and see that they are still surviving.
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Old 12/25/2012, 08:50 am   #15
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This is your opinion...i think your opinion sucks tho...atleast for Season 2.
We need to see how Clem's story ends in Season 2,then they can move on to another group of survivors if they will do more Seasons.
From your post,the only thing i can see is that you should go play shooter survival games like Resident Evil...it's like you don't like half of the game,in that case...the game is just not for you...

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Old 12/25/2012, 08:54 am   #16
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Agreed with most of that... Clementine was a supporting character. Making her the main focus of the game, like episode 5 did, was a bad idea. I just can't bring myself to like episode 5.

You shouldn't need Clem to get players to make tough choices in Season Two.
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Old 12/25/2012, 08:58 am   #17
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This is your opinion...i think your opinion sucks tho...atleast for Season 2.
We need to see how Clem's story ends in Season 2,then they can move on to another group of survivors if they will do more Seasons.
From your post,the only thing i can see is that you should go play shooter survival games like Resident Evil...it's like you don't like half of the game,in that case...the game is just not for you...
The game is about survival (yes, I know it's not a 'survival game'). But if all you want is to be a father figure for Clementine, then I could just as well say that TWD isn't for you either.

I do want her to show up in Season 2; I'm just not sure to what extent.
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Old 12/25/2012, 09:03 am   #18
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The game is about survival (yes, I know it's not a 'survival game'). But if all you want is to be a father figure for Clementine, then I could just as well say that TWD isn't for you either.

I do want her to show up in Season 2; I'm just not sure to what extent.
I play TWD the way i want dude,and i like the game (which automaticly means that the game is for me)...but if you don't like the game,then it isn't for you...it's simple as that...

if i want to play as cold-hearted killer and i like it (the game is for me) if i want to be father figure for clementine and i like it (the game is for me)....

All of the episodes did have some kind of focus on Clementine...you always had to protect her,it's the whole point of the game (along with survival ofc),if you don't like Clementine,then tbh...you won't like the whole game as much. This game is not for everybody...and there is more games out there with only survival and killing,where you don't need to care about a little girl

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And the butthurt creeps into the thread......
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Old 12/25/2012, 10:59 am   #20
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I didn't say make it a FPS............... I said more Gunplay Verse Horde like when you were holding out before going in the attic in episode 5. Last time I will say so you incoherent F%^&s!
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