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Rock114 · 11/03/2012, 11:31 pm

The Episode 5 group I'd want is Lee, Ben and Kenny. Ben and Kenny both have some serious atonement to do, but Christa and Omid don't deserve to go off on a suicide mission and die. Which kind of sucks, considering that I showed the bite in my first playthrough. But after I beat it with my main save, I'll go though 5 on the secondary save I have set up where it IS just me, Ben, and Kenny.

lilTomTom · 11/04/2012, 08:27 am

I could never really kill Ben or anything. I was really disappointed with him with his decisions. But those decisions were things he thought would help the group... He is the type of guy who means well but kinda messes things up. You can't blame him for that. I'm still waiting for Ben to do something extraordinary. These type of people usually do in due time if given the chance!

aaron1290 · 11/04/2012, 12:38 pm

Ben will Save himself taking the boat and killing lee in the fight with radio man.
THE END

aperose · 11/04/2012, 02:15 pm

I dropped Ben because I believe that morality has to change as the situation does and this is a completely different world than the pre-ZA one. Ben, not once, not twice but multiple times screws up. And the problem is that he just doesn't LISTEN. Ben is not a team player. He has enjoyed the protection from the group but done nothing to earn his stay at all. Let's count just a few of the things he has done wrong:

- deal with the bandits without consulting the group (he had no right to take our supplies and give them to the bandits and with proper warning we would've been much more prepared to take them on).

- not admitting that it was him and then admitting it at the worst possible time. Once again, ruining the team dynamic and jeopardizing LIVES!

- not protecting Clementine - not just in the street - but also not keeping an eye on her and letting her get out of the house. He is completely reckless.

- removing the hatchet from the door. Granted, the zombies may not have been there at the moment and maybe Lee or even Kenny would've been smarter to mention why there was a weapon in the door to Ben. BUT how dumb can you be??

It may have been wrong to let him die that way but I do feel that realistically, if you pulled him up, there should have been worse consequences for wasting your time while zombies are approaching. The ZA has been going on for over 3 months now so I don't think there is really an excuse for Ben to be as clueless as he is. You can say oh the group will vote but even if they voted to kick him out, how much better is that? You're basically condemning him to die anyway. Why waste resources and energy on someone worthless. Even Clem knows how to shoot and be a team member.

People will think dropping Ben is no different than agreeing with the ways of Crawford but that is not true. They were in a relatively safe location with a large number of people who could have afforded the handicap of sick or young people. We are a small group and every member needs to pull their weight.

KingOfTheDead · 11/04/2012, 02:27 pm

Lol big ben

HiggsBoson2142 · 11/04/2012, 04:30 pm

I hate the idea of doing things over again. I only replayed the game in a different slot so I could get Kenny to come with me in Ep. 5. My rule, unless you start from the beginning, don't change your choices. The most annoying thing, I was one of the few people who respected Ben all the time, even after getting three killed, one abandoned, and one shot (Molly).

Ninnuendo · 11/04/2012, 04:56 pm

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Originally Posted by HiggsBoson2142

I hate the idea of doing things over again. I only replayed the game in a different slot so I could get Kenny to come with me in Ep. 5. My rule, unless you start from the beginning, don't change your choices

I agree completely, I kind of wish there hadn't been multiple save slots released until Season 1 was finished. I played through naturally, made some mistakes and was happy with that, then Telltale fucked me with their game wiping bug.

TheBlackDeathOfFinland · 11/05/2012, 08:27 am

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Originally Posted by TheNNerdGamer

Ben... I'd say people that let him go can go smell a rat's ass.
I mean you regret it, but I honestly when he said:"LET GO DAMMIT!" My heart changed from hating Ben to regretting it so i pulled him up, he wuz willing his life to save others.
only men with balls of steel would do that

He was a complete fuck up! He even knew it himself... So I let him fall down...
His fuck up cost at least 3 lifes... and almost killed the rest of the group in Ep 4. I'm just happy that he is gone!

Ninnuendo · 11/05/2012, 09:14 am

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Originally Posted by aperose

I dropped Ben because I believe that morality has to change as the situation does and this is a completely different world than the pre-ZA one. Ben, not once, not twice but multiple times screws up. And the problem is that he just doesn't LISTEN. Ben is not a team player. He has enjoyed the protection from the group but done nothing to earn his stay at all. Let's count just a few of the things he has done wrong:

- deal with the bandits without consulting the group (he had no right to take our supplies and give them to the bandits and with proper warning we would've been much more prepared to take them on).

- not admitting that it was him and then admitting it at the worst possible time. Once again, ruining the team dynamic and jeopardizing LIVES!

- not protecting Clementine - not just in the street - but also not keeping an eye on her and letting her get out of the house. He is completely reckless.

- removing the hatchet from the door. Granted, the zombies may not have been there at the moment and maybe Lee or even Kenny would've been smarter to mention why there was a weapon in the door to Ben. BUT how dumb can you be??

All true more or less but does making mistakes justify killing him? As I've said already, what's in the past is done. If you drop him, you're doing it on the assumption that he'll fuck up again. That's a rather big ethical choice and is exactly what Crawford was about, ending a life because it MIGHT be a threat.

ChainedTruth · 11/05/2012, 09:43 am

It's just like you said. Ben pushed all my buttons and gave me all the reasons to leave him for dead. Instead, when the scene came up and I had an option to keep him alive, I kept him alive. I looked back and thought of Duck and Katjaa, Larry, Doug. Lily, even. I didn't wanna lose anybody else. The world has gone to shit. It's no use at all to keep killing friends.

If he screws things up in EP 5, my conscience is clear. I've been the better man. I only wish he can make up for all his mistakes, for the sake of Clem.

11/04/2012, 02:27 pm	#25
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11/03/2012, 11:31 pm	#21
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,712	The Episode 5 group I'd want is Lee, Ben and Kenny. Ben and Kenny both have some serious atonement to do, but Christa and Omid don't deserve to go off on a suicide mission and die. Which kind of sucks, considering that I showed the bite in my first playthrough. But after I beat it with my main save, I'll go though 5 on the secondary save I have set up where it IS just me, Ben, and Kenny.

11/04/2012, 08:27 am	#22
lilTomTom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 103	I could never really kill Ben or anything. I was really disappointed with him with his decisions. But those decisions were things he thought would help the group... He is the type of guy who means well but kinda messes things up. You can't blame him for that. I'm still waiting for Ben to do something extraordinary. These type of people usually do in due time if given the chance!

11/04/2012, 12:38 pm	#23
aaron1290 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 401	Ben will Save himself taking the boat and killing lee in the fight with radio man. THE END

11/04/2012, 02:15 pm	#24
aperose Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 105	I dropped Ben because I believe that morality has to change as the situation does and this is a completely different world than the pre-ZA one. Ben, not once, not twice but multiple times screws up. And the problem is that he just doesn't LISTEN. Ben is not a team player. He has enjoyed the protection from the group but done nothing to earn his stay at all. Let's count just a few of the things he has done wrong: - deal with the bandits without consulting the group (he had no right to take our supplies and give them to the bandits and with proper warning we would've been much more prepared to take them on). - not admitting that it was him and then admitting it at the worst possible time. Once again, ruining the team dynamic and jeopardizing LIVES! - not protecting Clementine - not just in the street - but also not keeping an eye on her and letting her get out of the house. He is completely reckless. - removing the hatchet from the door. Granted, the zombies may not have been there at the moment and maybe Lee or even Kenny would've been smarter to mention why there was a weapon in the door to Ben. BUT how dumb can you be?? It may have been wrong to let him die that way but I do feel that realistically, if you pulled him up, there should have been worse consequences for wasting your time while zombies are approaching. The ZA has been going on for over 3 months now so I don't think there is really an excuse for Ben to be as clueless as he is. You can say oh the group will vote but even if they voted to kick him out, how much better is that? You're basically condemning him to die anyway. Why waste resources and energy on someone worthless. Even Clem knows how to shoot and be a team member. People will think dropping Ben is no different than agreeing with the ways of Crawford but that is not true. They were in a relatively safe location with a large number of people who could have afforded the handicap of sick or young people. We are a small group and every member needs to pull their weight.

11/04/2012, 04:30 pm	#26
HiggsBoson2142 That's right. I'm pro-Ben Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Wherever you're not looking... Posts: 564	I hate the idea of doing things over again. I only replayed the game in a different slot so I could get Kenny to come with me in Ep. 5. My rule, unless you start from the beginning, don't change your choices. The most annoying thing, I was one of the few people who respected Ben all the time, even after getting three killed, one abandoned, and one shot (Molly).

11/05/2012, 09:43 am	#30
ChainedTruth Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2	It's just like you said. Ben pushed all my buttons and gave me all the reasons to leave him for dead. Instead, when the scene came up and I had an option to keep him alive, I kept him alive. I looked back and thought of Duck and Katjaa, Larry, Doug. Lily, even. I didn't wanna lose anybody else. The world has gone to shit. It's no use at all to keep killing friends. If he screws things up in EP 5, my conscience is clear. I've been the better man. I only wish he can make up for all his mistakes, for the sake of Clem.