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Shadowknight1 · 02/08/2013, 04:11 pm

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Why should C3PO and R2D2 be in the prequels? It was pandering fan service and nothing more. It does nothing to legitimately serve the story or the mythology. It's nonsense.

Okay. Let's be perfectly freaking honest here. THE ENTIRE PREQUEL TRILOGY WAS PANDERING FAN SERVICE. Seriously. They were totally unnecessary to the continuation of the Star Wars name. And for that matter, so are the books, video games, comic books, card games, cartoons, ad nauseum. They're completely unnecessary and each addition has the potential to screw things up, no matter how good they are.

Ribs · 02/08/2013, 07:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Shadowknight1

Okay. Let's be perfectly freaking honest here. THE ENTIRE PREQUEL TRILOGY WAS PANDERING FAN SERVICE. Seriously. They were totally unnecessary to the continuation of the Star Wars name. And for that matter, so are the books, video games, comic books, card games, cartoons, ad nauseum. They're completely unnecessary and each addition has the potential to screw things up, no matter how good they are.

No, they were cash grabs aimed at the general public. Much worse, in my opinion, as this ultimately ended up appealing to no one.

Chyron8472 · 02/09/2013, 08:24 am

Well, I was surprised to find that if a fan editor does a good enough job, that the prequels actually have pretty good movies hiding behind all the whining, anachronisms, and poop jokes.

I've decided I actually like the prequels now. They just have to have been edited properly.

And before people point out that it's "not official" or legally-grey or something, I think it may have been Adywan (faneditor of Star Wars:Revisited) who said that a whole bunch of people at the production company have their fingers in the pot regarding how movies get edited before they are released. His saying so reminded me that there are at least two movies that I can think of right away (Paranormal Activity and The Lawnmower Man) whose "director's cut" I believe to be head and shoulders better than their theatrical releases.

The only real difference is that fan editors can't get paid for their work.

Secret Fawful · 02/09/2013, 08:30 am

It's not fanservice if I can't see Leia's titties.

Chyron8472 · 02/09/2013, 08:33 am

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

It's not fanservice if I can't see Leia's titties.

Ugh. You're making me think of them showing her saggy old lady boobs for Episode VII.

Secret Fawful · 02/09/2013, 09:54 am

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Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Ugh. You're making me think of them showing her saggy old lady boobs for Episode VII.

MusicallyInspired · 02/09/2013, 11:03 am

They have to at least have R2 in at least Revenge of the Sith or something. Because R2 said he used to belong to Obi-Wan Kenobi. Then again, old Ben never recognized R2 or the fact that he used to own a droid period. Maybe R2 just made it up to get them to find Obi Wan to deliver the message.

coolsome · 02/09/2013, 11:13 am

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Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

They have to at least have R2 in at least Revenge of the Sith or something. Because R2 said he used to belong to Obi-Wan Kenobi. Then again, old Ben never recognized R2 or the fact that he used to own a droid period. Maybe R2 just made it up to get them to find Obi Wan to deliver the message.

Obi never liked Droids so maybe he just forgot which one he owned.

MusicallyInspired · 02/09/2013, 11:45 am

Still, the way they presented R2's relationship with Obi-Wan in the prequels, it'd be hard to forget him. Or at the very least, not recollect him.

*Darth Marsden* · 02/09/2013, 12:12 pm

Not to sound racist or whatever, but those droids all look alike to me.

Alcoremortis · 02/09/2013, 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

They have to at least have R2 in at least Revenge of the Sith or something. Because R2 said he used to belong to Obi-Wan Kenobi. Then again, old Ben never recognized R2 or the fact that he used to own a droid period. Maybe R2 just made it up to get them to find Obi Wan to deliver the message.

I really wouldn't put it past R2 to do that. I mean, I'm certain that the reason he talks in bleeps and bloops in the first place is because he's constantly spewing profanities and making nasty comments about everyone and they would have had to bleep it out anyways. And I'm pretty sure he only keeps C3PO around to talk to people who don't speak droid. Lying to a human would probably barely register on his radar.

Rather Dashing · 02/09/2013, 12:44 pm

I...always thought the implication that R2 was making shit up was obvious? And by always, I mean since I started watching these movies when I was five. I mean, he says he used to belong to Ben in the same breath(or at least what would be the same breath if droids had respiratory systems) as when he says the restraining bolt was "messing with the recording".

StrongBrush1 · 02/09/2013, 12:46 pm

This discussion brings up a point about the prequels that's been nagging at me for a bit.

Why did they wipe C-3PO's memory at the end of RotS if they weren't going to bother to wipe R2's memory? R2 was perfectly aware of the situation involving the Skywalkers just as much as C-3PO. Also, it's established in both trilogies that 3PO can understand R2 clearly. Couldn't R2 have just told him what happened before he got his memory wiped? There's only one logical explanation for all of this: R2-D2 is either trying to cover his metaphorical ass, or he's just never needed to bring it up.

coolsome · 02/09/2013, 12:51 pm

R2D2 was stoned off his metal ass though out the series.

Rather Dashing · 02/09/2013, 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by StrongBrush1

Why did they wipe C-3PO's memory at the end of RotS if they weren't going to bother to wipe R2's memory? R2 was perfectly aware of the situation involving the Skywalkers just as much as C-3PO. Also, it's established in both trilogies that 3PO can understand R2 clearly. Couldn't R2 have just told him what happened before he got his memory wiped? There's only one logical explanation for all of this: R2-D2 is either trying to cover his metaphorical ass, or he's just never needed to bring it up.

.....I think this fits perfectly well? C-3P0 needed a wipe because he's chatty and not very observant. R2 is the secret agent of droids and actually gives a shit about the Republic and has awareness of what he's doing. C-3P0's whole joke is that he talks too much and doesn't really get what's going on. Along with sensitive information, that's dangerous. R2's basically coddling the guy throughout the entire trilogy.

*Darth Marsden* · 02/09/2013, 01:59 pm

Also, no-one else can understand him, so what'd be the point?

Alcoremortis · 02/09/2013, 02:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

.....I think this fits perfectly well? C-3P0 needed a wipe because he's chatty and not very observant. R2 is the secret agent of droids and actually gives a shit about the Republic and has awareness of what he's doing. C-3P0's whole joke is that he talks too much and doesn't really get what's going on. Along with sensitive information, that's dangerous. R2's basically coddling the guy throughout the entire trilogy.

I read a this article once, that basically said just this. Chewy and R2 are secret agents and Han and C3P0 are their face men.

*Darth Marsden* · 02/09/2013, 02:53 pm

The original site it was posted on is down, but that article was reposted on this site practically word-for-word.

Secret Fawful · 02/09/2013, 03:18 pm

I never ever ever EVER cared about R2-D2 before I read these last few posts.

Shadowknight1 · 02/09/2013, 04:13 pm

There are good things, some REALLY good things about the prequels. Sadly the boring political drama, crappy acting from idiot kids, a retarded rabbit-frog, and the overly long podrace hurt The Phantom Menace, Anakin and Padme's retarded romance and Lucas's crappy editing hurt Attack of the Clones, and pretty much the same thing in addition to having an overly-rushed pace hurt Revenge of the Sith. And at least Lucas doesn't overly screw with The Clone Wars which has had some really, REALLY good story arcs lately.

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Secret Fawful Fearless Oathbreaker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stuck In This Pose Sexiness: Off The Charts! Posts: 5,225	I never ever ever EVER cared about R2-D2 before I read these last few posts. __________________ You're the greatest. The greatest! - GuruGuru214 You'll go far in this life, Fawful. - That Guy In The Wheelchair Fawful, you sir, are made of win. - mgrant I love the Fawful! - Davies You're like a bad comedian. - monkey_05_06 ** you. - Giant Tope Why do you have to be such an hole? - Avistew You're a miserable little weasel who derives pleasure from being a *. - AllenB Grow up. - Mike Haley Now Playing: ~~Space Quest 0: Replicated~~ - ~~Space Quest I EGA: The Sarien Encounter~~ - ~~Space Quest I VGA: The Sarien Encounter~~ - Space Quest II EGA: Vohaul's Revenge** - Space Quest II VGA: Vohaul's Revenge - Space Quest III: The Pirates of Pestulon - Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers - Space Quest V: The Next Mutation - Space Quest VI: Roger Wilco in the Spinal Frontier - Space Quest: The Lost Chapter

02/09/2013, 04:13 pm	#520
Shadowknight1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,749	There are good things, some REALLY good things about the prequels. Sadly the boring political drama, crappy acting from idiot kids, a retarded rabbit-frog, and the overly long podrace hurt The Phantom Menace, Anakin and Padme's retarded romance and Lucas's crappy editing hurt Attack of the Clones, and pretty much the same thing in addition to having an overly-rushed pace hurt Revenge of the Sith. And at least Lucas doesn't overly screw with The Clone Wars which has had some really, REALLY good story arcs lately. __________________ "Geez, we've been back together for five minutes Doc, and you're already talking about the end of the universe." "Stupid, stupid rat creatures!"

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