Should Flint Paper smoke?

[ATMachine]

Now that we've got Flint in the new season, I think we should get to see him play up the hard-boiled film noir detective role to the hilt. And that includes the occasional cigarette.

C'mon, Telltale crew. Even ScrewUsArts was willing to tread here. Pretty please?

[Harald B]

Does it matter? Traditionally Flint Paper only makes very brief cameo appearances at the start of a storyline, typically while he's busy fighting. Even if he does smoke you wouldn't expect to see him smoke under those circumstances -in fact, if you did, you'd probably conclude that he smokes a lot more than just occasionally.

[Laserschwert]

I think it would add to the atmosphere a lot having him smoke (and maybe have him do some film noir voice-overs at a certain point...), but regarding what's going on in the movie industry right now about movies with people smoking in it, I fear that won't happen - as ridiculous as that is. I remember Lucky Luke getting his cigarette switched for a twig at a certain point in his comics, as if kid's ever felt like smoking just because Lucky Luke did...

[mish]

YES. Simple YES.
If it's gritty and realistic, like smoking which a bunch of people do anyway, put it in the game.

[Maratanos]

The question, though, first should be... does Flint Paper smoke?

Because if he doesn't, you shouldn't put it in the game just because it's "Gritty and realistic."

Character consistency is more important.


PS. "gritty" is such a meaningless buzzword. Learn to use real words, please.

[xChri5x]

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[doom saber]

I can imagine him smokin at the opening. I mean, if Sam and Max doesn't fix that hole in their wall (which I think they won't to make Flint accessable without adding a new screen between the outside streets and S&M's office,) I can picture Flint smoking after beating up a crook as if he enjoys beatin ppl up like sex. I can also see him put out his smokes by rubbing it on some criminal's head.

[doom saber]

Originally Posted by Maratanos

The question, though, first should be... does Flint Paper smoke?

Because if he doesn't, you shouldn't put it in the game just because it's "Gritty and realistic."

Character consistency is more important.


PS. "gritty" is such a meaningless buzzword. Learn to use real words, please.

The ad the original poster posted seems to indicate that he does.

[doom saber]

BTW, is it me or does Flint seems to be drawn differently between the ad of the cancelled S&M game, the comics, and the telltale S&M season 2?

[Mel]

Originally Posted by Maratanos

PS. "gritty" is such a meaningless buzzword. Learn to use real words, please.

I would like to see your vocabulary police badge please.

It's interesting that for all of the hullabaloo about smoking in movies, there's a TV show on AMC (it's a movie channel here in the US) called Mad Men that takes place in the 60's and everyone is smoking on there (many more people smoked then). It's not out of the question but I guess it's a matter of what Flint will be doing, like Harald said.

Although, when I was in vet school, we went down to a slaughterhouse and the guy who was doing the exsanguinations was covered in blood (all over his apron, blood spatters on his face, his gloved hands were all bloody) and he had a lit cigarette dangling from his mouth. So I guess anything is possible.

[Zeek]

Originally Posted by doom saber

BTW, is it me or does Flint seems to be drawn differently between the ad of the cancelled S&M game, the comics, and the telltale S&M season 2?

He was. In the two sketchbooks, you can see his redesigns for both the cancelled games and, surprisingly, season 1.

[Hero1]

I believe he would smoke yeah.. hope we get to see more flint in the future..love the design and voicework

[Kefky]

It amazes how much of a big deal you guys always make about Flint Paper. Soon enough, you'll be asking for his own spin-off adventure gaming series!

[Sir Didymus]

From what I know of Flint, both from this game and the first five minutes of Sam & Max Hit The Road, smoking fits him. It's not out of character.

Would it change my perceptions of him to see him smoke in the next game instead of beating the crap out of some schmuck? No.

Would it change my perceptions of him to see him not smoke in the next game? No.

In the end, he's a character who smokes, even if you don't ever see him do it. Might as well.

And as a note, I'm preturbed by the fact someone threw in realism as an reason he should in regards to a Sam & Max game.

[mish]

Originally Posted by Maratanos

PS. "gritty" is such a meaningless buzzword. Learn to use real words, please.

Something or someone ticked you off today?

Originally Posted by Sir Didymus

And as a note, I'm preturbed by the fact someone threw in realism as an reason he should in regards to a Sam & Max game.

Well, that's why the games are so funny in the first place, because it's altered reality. What I always loved about Sam & Max was that it was set in New York, but it had a lot more entertaining rats, the main characters were not human at all and the sarcasm that was pretty consistent throughout Sam & Max's merchandising was relatable. I mean, it's not like it's a completely made-up world, with all the political and pop culture referrences. Right?

I just like seeing stuff like dirt, holes in the walls with Paper Flint in them, peeled-off wallpapers, trash and rats running around in the series. It very much sets the tone of what I consider to be Sam & Max.

EDIT: And smoking does seem like something Paper Flint would do.

[Dedlok]

Originally Posted by doom saber

if Sam and Max doesn't fix that hole in their wall

What do you mean "if". They never bothered to cover up the bullet holes from the 1st episode of season one. Do you they they would fix a hole in their wall? Especially since it allows them to seee their beloved Flint Paper more often?

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Kefky

It amazes how much of a big deal you guys always make about Flint Paper. Soon enough, you'll be asking for his own spin-off adventure gaming series!

That's a good idea Max gets a lot of love and Flint is crazier than him, so why shouldn't he be a revered character in the Sam & Max universe?

[doom saber]

Originally Posted by Dedlok

What do you mean "if". They never bothered to cover up the bullet holes from the 1st episode of season one. Do you they they would fix a hole in their wall? Especially since it allows them to seee their beloved Flint Paper more often?

I did say I doubt they will fix it especially it allows the gamers to talk to Flint w/o adding a new scene inside the office, thus preventing more "lag" time between the office and the streets, wiseguy. Well, if you want to argue with the word, "if", if because Sam and Max can easily cover up the wall with a pin up poster or put up a grandfather clock.

[mish]

It wouldn't be half bad if there was a hallway outside the office as a screen you go through to get out. That would make for more excuses to show Flint cleaning out last week's criminals out of his office...

[Jake]

I don't think we'll see a hallway in season two. Doom Saber is right - the hole in the wall is a great way to get a glimpse into Flint's office without having to make people walk down the hall every time they want to get back and forth between the DeSoto and the office (a pretty common trip to take, which people already said took too long in season one).