The infection

[Pellet]

Something thats kinda bugged me since i started getting into the whole zombie genre is Walker blood. If their bite infects you wouldn't getting drenched in their blood be just as bad. Even if it doesn't absorb through your skin, People are usually yelling when they swing a weapon so lets say some of that walker juice gets in your mouth or eyes, are you as good as bit?
Fucked your mind and how you would deal with them didn't I!

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Pellet

Something thats kinda bugged me since i started getting into the whole zombie genre is Walker blood. If their bite infects you wouldn't getting drenched in their blood be just as bad. Even if it doesn't absorb through your skin, People are usually yelling when they swing a weapon so lets say some of that walker juice gets in your mouth or eyes, are you as good as bit?
Fucked your mind and how you would deal with them didn't I!

that would depend on the specific rules the piece of zombie fiction you are seeing has set up, in TWD it doesn't seem to matter if you hack up some zombies then use the same weapon to hack off a limb of a person, so its not the blood.

but in 28 days later (even though it's not considered a true zombie film) it only takes a drop of blood in the eye to make you turn

[Pellet]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

that would depend on the specific rules the piece of zombie fiction you are seeing has set up, in TWD it doesn't seem to matter if you hack up some zombies then use the same weapon to hack off a limb of a person, so its not the blood.

but in 28 days later (even though it's not considered a true zombie film) it only takes a drop of blood in the eye to make you turn

Ok that clears that up, but now im wondering if thats on purpose or just not thought about.

Good to know about 28 days later, i wasnt sure if they were even dead or not

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Pellet

Ok that clears that up, but now im wondering if thats on purpose or just not thought about.

Good to know about 28 days later, i wasnt sure if they were even dead or not

i don't actually think the 28 days later people are dead it's a "rage virus" but the similarities between zombies and the 28 days later "rage infected" are enough to put them in the same area as zombies

[TrueXus]

Originally Posted by Pellet

Something thats kinda bugged me since i started getting into the whole zombie genre is Walker blood. If their bite infects you wouldn't getting drenched in their blood be just as bad. Even if it doesn't absorb through your skin, People are usually yelling when they swing a weapon so lets say some of that walker juice gets in your mouth or eyes, are you as good as bit?
Fucked your mind and how you would deal with them didn't I!

Man, I've been wondering this also, I cringe every time I watch the show and see all of that zombie juice all over them.

[cfergs]

Originally Posted by TrueXus

Man, I've been wondering this also, I cringe every time I watch the show and see all of that zombie juice all over them.

Yeah, same. That being said, I still understand why they don't delve into explaining this. The specific science behind the infection really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

[HiggsBoson2142]

I've heard it's undead saliva that does it, but that still doesn't make up for the fact you can get infected from scratches too.

[Bcroft]

In the first season of the walking dead when they chopped up the one zombie and wiped it on rick and glenn, he mentions not to get it in you eyes or open wounds, but I do agree with your point on how it would get in there mouth when there getting gruesome

[Jokieman]

in TWD, everyone is already infected, this much we know for sure.

Everything else is a grey area. Supposedly a bite from a zombie causes a standard bacterial type of infection and just speeds process along because it is left untreated. What this doesn't explain is why these infections are resistant to antibiotics (perhaps the wrong antibiotics were used?)

Honestly I don't think even Kirkman knows one way or another because it has never been fully explained as to why, if you are bitten, you are automatically a goner. Based on Kirkman's own "rules" if treated with the right antibiotic, the patient should recover with no issues but that doesn't happen.

Perhaps the bite from dead, infected, saliva just "activates" the infection. Perhaps the living are carriers but it doesn't go "active" until the right catalyst is introduced into the system (dead blood/saliva).

From what we've seen, blood may not have anything to do with it. It may be the Saliva that it is rooted in. How else to explain the fact that eventually a TWD Zombie is going to dry up, but will still walk.

[Pellet]

Lost who i was supposed to quote, but i know getting their blood in your system wouldn't turn you, but wouldn't it speed up your death? like a bite/scratch.
I think we got this as clear as we can make it but i'm still curious lol.

[HiggsBoson2142]

In Kirkman's world, you come back no matter how you die. A zombie bite/scratch is just 100% lethal.

[Pellet]

Originally Posted by HiggsBoson2142

In Kirkman's world, you come back no matter how you die. A zombie bite/scratch is just 100% lethal.

ummmm somebody doesnt get the conversation. Yes we all know that since episode 2. Im saying wouldnt getting their blood in your system be just as bad as if they bit or scratch you. Like how the bite kills you but isnt responsible for you turning

[Shagittarius]

Glad people are discussing it. As the fiction for this particular zombie universe goes it doesn't make sense. The characters have to be wrong about their assumptions. If its a virus and they are all infected that means a secondary catalyst is acting upon an already existing infection and the secondary catalyst travels like a virus. For it to work you'd have to have a dormant infection activated by a "live" catalyst. That however makes even less sense.

You just have to assume the characters are all wrong about their theories and they are doing what they think is right even though they are delusional.

[TrueXus]

Originally Posted by Shagittarius

Glad people are discussing it. As the fiction for this particular zombie universe goes it doesn't make sense. The characters have to be wrong about their assumptions. If its a virus and they are all infected that means a secondary catalyst is acting upon an already existing infection and the secondary catalyst travels like a virus. For it to work you'd have to have a dormant infection activated by a "live" catalyst. That however makes even less sense.

You just have to assume the characters are all wrong about their theories and they are doing what they think is right even though they are delusional.

Yeah, I've heard others mention a possible dormant human virus or something. I just don't get why all of a sudden this would happen at the time it did. In Ricks world, before he got shot and went into a coma, people died and stayed dead. What changed? I doubt Kirkman will ever tell us but there has to be some explanation... Global Government project gone wrong (I Would LOVE to see parts of the other world and how they are doing in say Britain?), Terrorists, Wiping out the Amazon Rain Forest unearthing an unknown disease, Fallen Meteor, etc.

[HelloCthulhu]

Originally Posted by Shagittarius

Glad people are discussing it. As the fiction for this particular zombie universe goes it doesn't make sense. The characters have to be wrong about their assumptions. If its a virus and they are all infected that means a secondary catalyst is acting upon an already existing infection and the secondary catalyst travels like a virus. For it to work you'd have to have a dormant infection activated by a "live" catalyst. That however makes even less sense.

You just have to assume the characters are all wrong about their theories and they are doing what they think is right even though they are delusional.

AAActually, We see this in nature... Look at Auto-immunity dysfunctions. HIV is a virus that can cause one. If you think about the chemical composition of the walker spit, it could act like a Auto-Immunity blocker, causing the people to die from pretty much all types of diseases that they would usually be immune to.

[Jokieman]

Originally Posted by Shagittarius

Glad people are discussing it. As the fiction for this particular zombie universe goes it doesn't make sense. The characters have to be wrong about their assumptions. If its a virus and they are all infected that means a secondary catalyst is acting upon an already existing infection and the secondary catalyst travels like a virus. For it to work you'd have to have a dormant infection activated by a "live" catalyst. That however makes even less sense.

You just have to assume the characters are all wrong about their theories and they are doing what they think is right even though they are delusional.

We can't rule out "Act of God" either. One of the signs for the apocalypse is the dead rising for judgement day. Only problem with this theory is that none of the other signs have made themselves apparent. If it's an "Act of God" all the signs would pop up. Weather events, rivers of blood. Demons walking the earth, etc.

I still believe Kirkman himself doesn't even know and this is why it has not been explained more in-depth. It wouldn't be the first time. -- Credence is lent to this when you see that the CDC in Atlanta, a completely closed environment only has 1 man left standing by the time they show up. The CDC should have seen a 60% survival rate in a closed environment like this, but Kirkman decided to blow the place up. Why? it'd be a great place to get these answers and now it is gone.

But Kirkman's universe tends to not make a lot of sense. Think about how many Police, Military, Rescue workers, Survivalists, etc. did NOT make it out alive. Common sense tells us more of these people with this training should have survived, but we have seen very few. Why? Because if more had survived then it might make things too easy for them.

Also, what about other closed-government facilities that have been designed to run for YEARS and why there has been no mention about this. So, lots of holes that Kirkman has avoided or not even thought about.

Kirkman wanted two types of people to survive. The Sociopaths and the average Joe trying to do the right thing but who is too moronic to fully understand that team work is the only way to survive now.

[HelloCthulhu]

Originally Posted by Jokieman

We can't rule out "Act of God" either. One of the signs for the apocalypse is the dead rising for judgement day. Only problem with this theory is that none of the other signs have made themselves apparent. If it's an "Act of God" all the signs would pop up. Weather events, rivers of blood. Demons walking the earth, etc.

I still believe Kirkman himself doesn't even know and this is why it has not been explained more in-depth. It wouldn't be the first time. -- Credence is lent to this when you see that the CDC in Atlanta, a completely closed environment only has 1 man left standing by the time they show up. The CDC should have seen a 60% survival rate in a closed environment like this, but Kirkman decided to blow the place up. Why? it'd be a great place to get these answers and now it is gone.

But Kirkman's universe tends to not make a lot of sense. Think about how many Police, Military, Rescue workers, etc. did NOT make it out alive. Common sense tells us more of these people with this training should have survived, but we have seen very few. Why? Because if more had survived then it might make things too easy for them.

You realize the CDC was never in the comics, right? The show writers decided to blow it up because...well they couldn't think of a better way to advance the storyline of the show.

[Jokieman]

Originally Posted by HelloCthulhu

You realize the CDC was never in the comics, right? The show writers decided to blow it up because...well they couldn't think of a better way to advance the storyline of the show.

I've never read the comics, but this just lends even more weight to the Kirkman Himself doesn't know theory.

Write about what you know. Kirkman doesn't know, so he doesn't write about it.

[HelloCthulhu]

Originally Posted by Jokieman

I've never read the comics, but this just lends even more weight to the Kirkman Himself doesn't know theory.

Write about what you know. Kirkman doesn't know, so he doesn't write about it.

Or he just hasn't decided to put it in yet. He has already put characters in that were red herrings to finding out the source of the infection in the comics and it's not above him to purposely mislead people.

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by HelloCthulhu

Or he just hasn't decided to put it in yet. He has already put characters in that were red herrings to finding out the source of the infection in the comics and it's not above him to purposely mislead people.

He's said he already has a few ideas on such topics, but won't use them until the comic sales drop and he decides to end it.