World War Z

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dustpuffs

I don't see the problem with changing what is typically seen as a zombie. You are not talking about a creature, such as a lion, suddenly doing something it is incapable of, for example: flying. You are talking about a creature that does not exist: a dead human that is capable of moving around, and has only the desire to eat other living flesh as a motivator. So if the creature doesn't exist, why not have some imagination and fun with it? The dead can't move around anyway, so if they are going to move, why must they shamble? Go at a dead run and work together; it doesn't make any less sense that their brains can perform this function than any other thing you've seen them do in other films. By the way, I haven't read the book, and don't think I'll see the movie till it's free on T.V. in a few years and I'm home sick vegetating one day.

mythology (or what ever the proper word is) is why its important and why there is a problem, look up ghouls and revenant and you will notice that zombies aren't the only mythological creatures that are undead and eat human flesh, if they wanted to create there own monsters they shouldn't have called them zombies, what if they gave them the ability to fly and have laser eyes would they still be zombies to you?

[dustpuffs]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

mythology (or what ever the proper word is) is why its important and why there is a problem, look up ghouls and revenant and you will notice that zombies aren't the only mythological creatures that are undead and eat human flesh, if they wanted to create there own monsters they shouldn't have called them zombies, what if they gave them the ability to fly and have laser eyes would they still be zombies to you?

I wouldn't care if it were about trolls, werewolves, or vampires. If it is about a fantasy creature, do whatever you want to it. Maybe I'll be entertained, maybe I will think it's stupid. But no one is making us watch or read these things. If they want to call them zombies, I don't care.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dustpuffs

I wouldn't care if it were about trolls, werewolves, or vampires. If it is about a fantasy creature, do whatever you want to it. Maybe I'll be entertained, maybe I will think it's stupid. But no one is making us watch or read these things. If they want to call them zombies, I don't care.

yeah that's cool, but i am just explaining why the big changes from a zombie to a "zoombie" are important to some people, what if it had been called World War W (werewolf) and they obviously weren't werewolfs (they were robots or something), are you saying that wouldn't matter at all to you?

[dustpuffs]

I'm just saying I probably wouldn't care and just wouldn't watch it. I've already seen the worst werewolf on film (Professor Lupin from Harry Potter) was horrible in my opinion. I wouldn't watch any other werewolf movie if that's what they were going to look like from now on. So if they had flying zombies with laser eyes, I would just think it sounds dumb and not watch it. I have way too many real life issues to worry about, I just can't get worked up over something that is easily avoidable. If it matters to other people, that's fine. I didn't say they shouldn't care, I just stated why I don't.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dustpuffs

I'm just saying I probably wouldn't care and just wouldn't watch it. I've already seen the worst werewolf on film (Professor Lupin from Harry Potter) was horrible in my opinion. I wouldn't watch any other werewolf movie if that's what they were going to look like from now on. So if they had flying zombies with laser eyes, I would just think it sounds dumb and not watch it. I have way too many real life issues to worry about, I just can't get worked up over something that is easily avoidable. If it matters to other people, that's fine. I didn't say they shouldn't care, I just stated why I don't.

i'm not worked up about it and i wont pay to watch it, i just think it was a waste of an opportunity and money to make a film based on a well know monster and just basically ignore everything that is known about the monster

[dustpuffs]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

i'm not worked up about it and i wont pay to watch it, i just think it was a waste of an opportunity and money to make a film based on a well know monster and just basically ignore everything that is known about the monster

Again, I was only stating my personal feelings. I did not say any people were worked up, or were unwillingly going to pay to see the movie. I respect other people's opinions, and I almost never try to convince them to see things my way. I simply came on this thread to see if people that had read the book would recommend it, or might recommend the movie based on the trailers, which I haven't seen.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dustpuffs

Again, I was only stating my personal feelings. I did not say any people were worked up, or were unwillingly going to pay to see the movie. I respect other people's opinions, and I almost never try to convince them to see things my way. I simply came on this thread to see if people that had read the book would recommend it, or might recommend the movie based on the trailers, which I haven't seen.

i respect your opinion i and was just stating my person opinion as well, sometimes its hard to make the tone of what i am writing match what i am thinking, so if it came across as me trying to convince you that the film is rubbish and you shouldn't watch it even if you want to or something like that i apologise

[childishgambino]

As is the case with most others, I think they could have done way better. Of course, I haven't seen it yet and I'm not sure when it comes out so my comment is a bit premature and based entirely on the trailer and my expectations from the book.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by dustpuffs

I simply came on this thread to see if people that had read the book would recommend it, or might recommend the movie based on the trailers, which I haven't seen.

Whether you watch the movie or not, I definitely recommend reading the book.

[BlankCanvasDJ]

It should be noted that most of us who have taken issue with the trailer aren't really upset by the fact that it has running-jumping-climbing-trees zombies in it. We're upset that the movie seems to have completely abandoned everything that made the book interesting and unique - the documentary style, the multiple stories, the world-wide perspective.

This could be a decent movie, I just wish they hadn't insisted on using the World War Z brand in order to get name recognition (wouldn't Brad Pitt be enough, really?) because now we'll probably never see an actual adaptation of the story. If they had just called it something else...

[crash665]

Originally Posted by DreadMagus

Romero didn't "create" zombies.

You're right, and I should have made it clear in my post. The modern idea of zombies - as well as Robert Kirkman's zombies - did come from Romero, though.

"Zombie" movies have been around since the 30's with White Zombie being one of the first. (Which is where Rob Zombie got the name for his original band, btw.)

The idea of the walking dead - not The Walking Dead - has been around for a long long time. Zombies were not originally considered cannibalistic, though; that came from Romero.

SOOOOOO, in that regards, the idea of fast moving zoombies is something new and is not viewed positively by me and other purists. However, people are allowed to watch whatever they want. More power to them. (They're wrong, of course! (jk))

[Nokando]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

mythology (or what ever the proper word is) is why its important and why there is a problem, look up ghouls and revenant and you will notice that zombies aren't the only mythological creatures that are undead and eat human flesh, if they wanted to create there own monsters they shouldn't have called them zombies, what if they gave them the ability to fly and have laser eyes would they still be zombies to you?

There are no zombies in the Walking Dead remember... they are walkers or biters or whatever people have called them. Imagine a world where the ZA actually happened... there would be no debate about 'hmm, well, strictly speaking these are ghouls, not zombies"... everyone would just call them zombies at the end of the day, no matter how upset Romero purists got about it!

In fact, "ghouls" sums up what we think of as zombies pretty well - the mythological voodoo zombie wasn't flesh-eating. The ghoulie apocalypse doesn't sound as good though - and where I come from means something entirely different!

[Gudmoore]

How about we shut up about "Zombie Lore", and go back to the basics?

Yes, these zombies are idiotically made, but not because of classic zombie stories. It is because this movie is based on the book, the zombies Brooks wrote about were walkers. It was even gone into detail on why they can't run.

For fucks sake, stop talking out of your asses.

I do have to say; if they would release this as another generic zombie movie it just might be watchable. All they are doing right now is using a big name for box office numbers, not following shit from the source material. This is the reason I hate it.

[AceStarr]

Whats next ZOMBIE VAMPIRES LOL

[Gudmoore]

Originally Posted by AceStarr

Whats next ZOMBIE VAMPIRES LOL

A little slow on the uptake buddy.

I Am Legend. (Omega Man was better story-wise).

[crash665]

Whoever asked about World War Z book vs movie? Always go with the book, imo. However, in this case, I think the title is this only thing the two have in common. I just started reading it, and so far there is no running or wall climbing. (Good read, so far.)

The word "zombie" is in Kirkman's comics. Somewhere inside the prison, one of the characters mentions them.

What about Teenage, Sparkly Zombie Vampires in Love? We'd make millions!!!

I checked, but I don't appear to be talking out of my ass. I may need a second opinion, though.

Jeez! Everyone is getting so worked up about this. Calm down, everyone! Come back from the ledge.
There is no such thing as the zombie apocalypse, and - I'm going out on a limb here, but there never will be one. It's fiction. You can do whatever you like.

Points:

1 - Some people - like me - will never appreciate the fast zombies. Deal with it and move on. Doesn't mean the movies are bad. I enjoyed the remake of Dawn of the Dead, for example. It just means that we prefer our zombies slow and lumbering. It's the slow, constant threat of death where you have to constantly be moving that we enjoy.

2 - To anyone who likes zoombies: Enjoy!! You'll probably really like the move WWZ, probably not the book though.

Now, let's all hug and go look for Clementine!

[Digestif]

I'll watch it, but I won't expect anything big.
Really, it's Brad Pitt and a bunch of Kids. It will be "and they lived happily ever after"-style. Nothing like TWD where anybody can and will die.

[Jokieman]