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ss33094 · 11/23/2012, 05:14 pm

After the end of episode 4 and all throughout episode 5 to after the credits, it seems that Lee's role in the story isn't what it originally seemed to be prior to that point. Lee and Clementine are the main characters, but Lee, being the playable character, seemed to be the MAIN character. However. These last two episodes proved otherwise, showing that Clementine is indeed the true main character, which puts Lee in an interesting position in terms of story telling. Instead of playing as the true main character of the story, we play as the guardian, the character who would ultimately make Clementine who she will become after season one. There is a season two confirmed, but it is highly unlikely that it will end there, as so much could happen in Clem's story, paired with the actual success of the game. I just find it interesting that we play as the "enabler" per se, the character who would influence Clementine, molding her into the person she would inevitably become as she grows older. Lee is gone, and he left his mark on Clem, as evidenced all the way until the very end where, just before Lee dies, you have a choice of a last piece of advice to give her, which the game says "she will remember". I told her to keep her hair short, as an example, therefore, I'm assuming that through season two and forward, I will have a short haired Clem because Lee's advice stuck with her, etc. I apologize for this long post, I just thought that Lee's position in the story is such an interesting one, as he, in retrospect, is such a small part of a potentially huge story.

Anyway, thank you Telltale for creating this masterpiece of a game, I've never felt such emotion towards characters and situations in any other video game, or any other medium for that matter. I cried at those last few minutes, as I'm sure 95% of others have. This is my pick for game of the year without a doubt, and one of my favorite games, and stories, of all time.

short_stack · 11/23/2012, 05:15 pm

im pretty sure, TT planed the end scene with Lee dying for max emotions right from the start. and it worked.

Pride · 11/23/2012, 05:26 pm

He was Clem's savior,who will in a VERY distant future team up with Carl Grimes, and find the cure for the ZA.
So in a sense , he saved the world. Really.
*wishful thinking*

george1120 · 11/23/2012, 05:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Pride

He was Clem's savior,who will in a VERY distant future team up with Carl Grimes, and find the cure for the ZA.
So in a sense , he saved the world. Really.
*wishful thinking*

you mean clementine?

Pride · 11/23/2012, 05:39 pm

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Originally Posted by george1120

you mean clementine?

No, I mean Clementina, Clementine's long long twin sister.

trd84 · 11/23/2012, 05:41 pm

Lee was the main character the game ends when he dies.

Pride · 11/23/2012, 05:43 pm

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Originally Posted by trd84

Lee was the main character the game ends when he dies.

Clementine is the main character.
Lee was just the enabler.

cfergs · 11/23/2012, 06:04 pm

Lee's role in the first season is the same as it was before the zombie apocalypse: a teacher.
Sure, the season was almost always shown from his perspective, but that doesn't necessarily make him the only main character.

PeaceSellsButWhosBuyin? · 11/23/2012, 06:11 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride

He was Clem's savior,who will in a VERY distant future team up with Carl Grimes, and find the cure for the ZA.
So in a sense , he saved the world. Really.
*wishful thinking*

That would be a dream come true.

george1120 · 11/23/2012, 06:13 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride

No, I mean Clementina, Clementine's long long twin sister.

Huh? I didn't know she had a long lost sister.

PeaceSellsButWhosBuyin? · 11/23/2012, 06:15 pm

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Originally Posted by george1120

Huh? I didn't know she had a long lost sister.

*Whoosh* swing and a miss...

Master of Aeons · 11/23/2012, 09:30 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride

Clementine is the main character.
Lee was just the enabler.

There's a difference between protagonist and main character. The protagonist is the one who makes the decisions that propel the story forward. The main character is the one with the most focus. Clem is the core of the story. Lee makes the choices, but it's all about shaping Clem.

DatDude · 11/23/2012, 09:46 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride

Clementine is the main character.
Lee was just the enabler.

this.

Viden · 11/23/2012, 11:06 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfergs

Lee's role in the first season is the same as it was before the zombie apocalypse: a teacher.
Sure, the season was almost always shown from his perspective, but that doesn't necessarily make him the only main character.

This comment reminds me of when in Episode 4 Lee told Clem he'd set up a classroom for her and be her teacher. And then he dies. It's the little things like this that cut the deepest...

plaqueconspiracy · 11/24/2012, 02:47 am

Plot twist.

Lily is the main character.

ForgottenKnight · 11/24/2012, 03:26 am

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Originally Posted by plaqueconspiracy

Plot twist.

Lily is the main character.

No way, the main character was Maybelle, the cow.

Doctanian · 11/24/2012, 08:55 am

Clem's not the main character. Lee is. Or was. Lee's the protagonist. Kenny's a deuteragonist (second protagonist) and Clem is a tritagonist (third protagonist). The main roles ended in episode 5 for both Lee and Kenny and now it's been passed to Clementine. Who is now the protagonist.

11/23/2012, 05:14 pm	#1
ss33094 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1	Lee Everett's Role in TWD After the end of episode 4 and all throughout episode 5 to after the credits, it seems that Lee's role in the story isn't what it originally seemed to be prior to that point. Lee and Clementine are the main characters, but Lee, being the playable character, seemed to be the MAIN character. However. These last two episodes proved otherwise, showing that Clementine is indeed the true main character, which puts Lee in an interesting position in terms of story telling. Instead of playing as the true main character of the story, we play as the guardian, the character who would ultimately make Clementine who she will become after season one. There is a season two confirmed, but it is highly unlikely that it will end there, as so much could happen in Clem's story, paired with the actual success of the game. I just find it interesting that we play as the "enabler" per se, the character who would influence Clementine, molding her into the person she would inevitably become as she grows older. Lee is gone, and he left his mark on Clem, as evidenced all the way until the very end where, just before Lee dies, you have a choice of a last piece of advice to give her, which the game says "she will remember". I told her to keep her hair short, as an example, therefore, I'm assuming that through season two and forward, I will have a short haired Clem because Lee's advice stuck with her, etc. I apologize for this long post, I just thought that Lee's position in the story is such an interesting one, as he, in retrospect, is such a small part of a potentially huge story. Anyway, thank you Telltale for creating this masterpiece of a game, I've never felt such emotion towards characters and situations in any other video game, or any other medium for that matter. I cried at those last few minutes, as I'm sure 95% of others have. This is my pick for game of the year without a doubt, and one of my favorite games, and stories, of all time.

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11/23/2012, 05:15 pm	#2
short_stack Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 151	im pretty sure, TT planed the end scene with Lee dying for max emotions right from the start. and it worked.

11/23/2012, 05:26 pm	#3
Pride Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 69	He was Clem's savior,who will in a VERY distant future team up with Carl Grimes, and find the cure for the ZA. So in a sense , he saved the world. Really. wishful thinking

11/23/2012, 05:41 pm	#6
trd84 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 368	Lee was the main character the game ends when he dies.

11/23/2012, 06:04 pm	#8
cfergs Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 15	Lee's role in the first season is the same as it was before the zombie apocalypse: a teacher. Sure, the season was almost always shown from his perspective, but that doesn't necessarily make him the only main character.

11/24/2012, 02:47 am	#15
plaqueconspiracy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 277	Plot twist. Lily is the main character.

11/24/2012, 08:55 am	#17
Doctanian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 271	Clem's not the main character. Lee is. Or was. Lee's the protagonist. Kenny's a deuteragonist (second protagonist) and Clem is a tritagonist (third protagonist). The main roles ended in episode 5 for both Lee and Kenny and now it's been passed to Clementine. Who is now the protagonist.