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View Poll Results: do you feel bad for him?
I feel bad for him 30 56.60%
after all his mistakes I don't even have a tiny bit of sympathy 2 3.77%
IDK 0 0%
hard to say 5 9.43%
hell no 2 3.77%
I feel bad for everything he's done, he never knew it would've cost so much trouble 14 26.42%
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:25 pm   #1
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Default who feels bad for Ben?

if you saved ben back in crawford you get to the house and it gets kinda intense:



Kenny says that "Lee should have left your ass back in crawford, we have enough problems".
Ben replies: "FUCK YOU KENNY"
"I am so,so,SO sorry about katjaa and duck, I AM. and I know i fucked up, BUT stop pushing me around and STOP wishing I was dead.

"NO!,you know how they died, you've said GOODBYE, I never got to see my family, my little sister...do you get that?your family is gone but at least you had them to lose."

"I never made it home. They could be alive or dead or walkers or WORSE and I don't know. SO GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!"
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that's just sad, I feel bad for him.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:26 pm   #2
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Yeah, I felt bad for him. And even cheered inside when he verbally curbstomped Kenny.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:27 pm   #3
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He was an important character. I was happy that in the end, he was able to make it right with Kenny.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:29 pm   #4
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Ben sucks. He almost got Clementine eaten, and he never even got to prove himself, which makes me saving him feel worthless.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:30 pm   #5
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Nope, he is the reason that Kenny's family is dead. Kenny wouldn't had to say goodbye to his family if he wasn't such an idiot. He also almost got Clementine killed.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:32 pm   #6
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Yeah, I felt bad for him. And even cheered inside when he verbally curbstomped Kenny.
I was glad he did that too, even though I like Kenny.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:32 pm   #7
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I feel bad because he was so young. That's about it.

He screwed up way too many times. Last straw was not protecting Clementine for me. We all know had Clem been armed at that point (not sure if she knew how to shoot yet,) she would have tried to protect Ben. She thought highly of him.

Went downhill from there. Felt like punching him myself when he said he was responsible for the whole bandit thing and what happened to Duck and Katjaa.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:32 pm   #8
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That was a really powerful line, I started to respect Ben a little more afterwords.

I feel terrible for Ben, especially after the "For Whom the Bell Tolls" scene. I think the reason why Ben wanted Lee to drop him was so he wouldn't hurt anyone else with his actions. I mean, he's indirectly killed pretty much everyone in the group that actually cared about him. Doug and Carley were actually his friends and it's likely Katjaa was motherly towards him. Overall he indirectly caused five deaths, six if you include Molly and maybe even seven if you include Larry (he is the one who told the group that zombies come back no matter how they die). He also nearly got Clementine killed.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:49 pm   #9
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Overall he indirectly caused five deaths, six if you include Molly and maybe even seven if you include Larry (he is the one who told the group that zombies come back no matter how they die)
Alright now we're just pointing fingers!
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:52 pm   #10
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Alright now we're just pointing fingers!
Oh don't even get me started, I could twist it so Ben is the reason why Lee is dead too.
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Old 11/28/2012, 05:53 pm   #11
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Oh don't even get me started, I could twist it so Ben is the reason why Lee is dead too.
actually Chuck is the reason Lee is dead
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Old 11/28/2012, 06:00 pm   #12
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Yes, I felt immensely bad for him because he never intended for anyone to get hurt. I got annoyed at him a lot, but I never thought he was a bad kid or that he deserved to die. His inclusion in the game was also a vital plot point in that not everyone can be a a badass hero or useful during this time.

Some people are just not cut out for horrible circumstances and do the best they can with what they have. Ben kept his humanity and was a good guy overall and his story is definitely a sad one in that he never even saw his family again. I'm just really glad he finally got his chance to speak his mind and finally allowed others to see him for who he really was and get off his back.
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Old 11/28/2012, 06:08 pm   #13
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actually Chuck is the reason Lee is dead
  1. Ben was the reason for the bandits raid.
  2. The result of the raid was the crew leaving the motor inn.
  3. The crew then seeked refuge in Savannah.
  4. Lee then got bit in Savannah.
  • Or you could blame Ben's teacher for he's the reason why Ben joined the group in the first place.
  • Or you could actually blame Glenn because he's the one that knew about the motor inn in the first place.
  • Or maybe you could actually blame Duck because he's the reason why you left Hershel's farm and going to Macon which would then result in you going to the motor inn where you will meet Ben.
  • Or you could actually blame Shawn for he's the one that drove you to Hershel's farm which would result in you meeting Kenny and his family, with whom you would catch a ride to Macon.
  • Or you could actually blame the police officer 'cause he drove you to an area close to Clementine's house.
  • Or you could blame Lee because he's the one who got in trouble, leading him to get arrested and then get the ride with the police officer.
  • Or actually you could blame the state senator for his actions led to Lee murdering him, making him a criminal.
  • Or maybe you could blame Lee's wife because she consented to sleeping with the state senator.
Basically Lee's ex-wife caused Lee's death.
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  1. Ben was the reason for the bandits raid.
  2. The result of the raid was the crew leaving the motor inn.
  3. The crew then seeked refuge in Savannah.
  4. Lee then got bit in Savannah.
  • Or you could blame Ben's teacher for he's the reason why Ben joined the group in the first place.
  • Or you could actually blame Glenn because he's the one that knew about the motor inn in the first place.
  • Or maybe you could actually blame Duck because he's the reason why you left Hershel's farm and going to Macon which would then result in you going to the motor inn where you will meet Ben.
  • Or you could actually blame Shawn for he's the one that drove you to Hershel's farm which would result in you meeting Kenny and his family, with whom you would catch a ride to Macon.
  • Or you could actually blame the police officer 'cause he drove you to an area close to Clementine's house.
  • Or you could blame Lee because he's the one who got in trouble, leading him to get arrested and then get the ride with the police officer.
  • Or actually you could blame the state senator for his actions led to Lee murdering him, making him a criminal.
  • Or maybe you could blame Lee's wife because she consented to sleeping with the state senator.
Basically Lee's ex-wife caused Lee's death.
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Old 11/28/2012, 06:49 pm   #15
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i felt bad for him, but not when he took the pick out of the door to let the zombies enter crawford. did he not see the zombies or use his imagination as to why it would be there in the first place?
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Old 11/28/2012, 06:50 pm   #16
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Oddly enough i dont. I saved him at crawford because my playthrough had him being super good morale and i wasnt gonna kill anyone or let them die. Even at the end i just felt that ben was that character who came in to tell everyone else the truth about the infection and then be killed off later knowing his purpose had been done. If anything id be more sad that we didnt see molly again or that lily left the episode before.
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  1. Ben was the reason for the bandits raid.
  2. The result of the raid was the crew leaving the motor inn.
  3. The crew then seeked refuge in Savannah.
  4. Lee then got bit in Savannah.
  • Or you could blame Ben's teacher for he's the reason why Ben joined the group in the first place.
  • Or you could actually blame Glenn because he's the one that knew about the motor inn in the first place.
  • Or maybe you could actually blame Duck because he's the reason why you left Hershel's farm and going to Macon which would then result in you going to the motor inn where you will meet Ben.
  • Or you could actually blame Shawn for he's the one that drove you to Hershel's farm which would result in you meeting Kenny and his family, with whom you would catch a ride to Macon.
  • Or you could actually blame the police officer 'cause he drove you to an area close to Clementine's house.
  • Or you could blame Lee because he's the one who got in trouble, leading him to get arrested and then get the ride with the police officer.
  • Or actually you could blame the state senator for his actions led to Lee murdering him, making him a criminal.
  • Or maybe you could blame Lee's wife because she consented to sleeping with the state senator.
Basically Lee's ex-wife caused Lee's death.
we should blame clementine because she caused the deaths of Lee, Kenny, and Ben.
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Old 11/28/2012, 07:01 pm   #18
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Everyone loves to point fingers at ben. Acidents happen.
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Old 11/28/2012, 07:40 pm   #19
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Everyone loves to point fingers at ben. Accidents happen.
That's what ben's father said.
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That's what ben's father said.
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