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Devlonir · 12/04/2012, 02:56 am

I see where you come from, though I don't agree with your point that her bond with Lee should be stronger than with her parents just because she hasn't seen them for a bit over 3 months. Her parents were her reason to go on, they were her character motivation. Her seeing them was for her the hardest thing to encounter the entire season for her personally (though not for us as players because we didn't know the people of course). If there was a moment to break down completely in denial, it was then.
Heck, I imagined her doing that really "No Lee, they are just acting like Walkers just like us!" and get them both killed..

But she didn't, she conquered that moment and saved Lee after he fainted. She was long passed the denial response already as it was shown in that decision of hers. For her to then fall into denial a few minutes later when Lee shows he was bitten would have her break already defined character.

I understand your point entirely, though I appreciate it wasn't done by Telltale for those reasons.

Robbingrobin · 12/04/2012, 04:13 am

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Heck, I imagined her doing that really "No Lee, they are just acting like Walkers just like us!" and get them both killed..

Don't be stupid. Clem is a child, not retarded.

Devlonir · 12/04/2012, 05:30 am

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Originally Posted by Robbingrobin

Don't be stupid. Clem is a child, not retarded.

It is probably the most traumatic experience she can have: seeing her parents as Walkers. Don't you think she will have lost all reason over that?

Don't forget: In all of TWD video game, not once is Clem confronted with a zombiefied version of someone she knows besides the babysitter. And she looked a lot worse than her parents did. Her parents looked pretty well preserved besides the eyes.

But yeah, she stayed strong and avoided being lost in emotion and denial. Hence, her being able to do the same with Lee's fate.

bdawgnit1785 · 12/04/2012, 06:53 am

Alot of her ability to cope with her parents death has to stem from the fact that Lee needed her in that moment. He was not going to ever wake up again if she didn't save him and so she did. She choose life. The thing that scared me though is what if she knew Lee was already bit before you left the marsh house. When you passed out would she think you turned and give up....She needed something to fight for, something to get her past that moment.
I have an 8yr old and his mother and grandmother have passed away and for his mom denial was definitely there but with his grandmother there was no denial, no asking to go visit her, just sad acceptance. This game broke me more than it would most people because I could almost see what would happen were I to get bit during the ZA. Makes me check for walkers constantly...cuz fuck that

Robbingrobin · 12/04/2012, 07:16 am

Ed and Diana had both missing chunks of flesh. And I do not think Clem would let Lee just get eaten by a bunch of zombies, even if she would have known he is infected. She even wants to put him out of his misery, after he said that she could leave her.

CarScar · 12/04/2012, 01:36 pm

I don't think normal children psychology applies to a child who's going through a zombie apocalypse. Especially one as strong and mature as Clementine.

JulianAR · 12/08/2012, 10:03 am

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Originally Posted by CarScar

I don't think normal children psychology applies to a child who's going through a zombie apocalypse. Especially one as strong and mature as Clementine.

Unless she's super-child, I think it does.

... but on that note, it certainly is debatable. :P

Doctanian · 12/08/2012, 10:45 am

I see where you're coming from.

She accepting her parent's deaths and Lee's death was a bit too fast. They way she cries whenever you suggest that they're probably dead or when you say you can't look look for them contradicts her behavior in Episode 5.

"I saw my parents. It was horrible." - Clem

That's basically all she says about them after seeing them as zombies. A bit melodramatic down you think?

12/04/2012, 01:36 pm	#26
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12/04/2012, 02:56 am	#21
Devlonir Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 91	I see where you come from, though I don't agree with your point that her bond with Lee should be stronger than with her parents just because she hasn't seen them for a bit over 3 months. Her parents were her reason to go on, they were her character motivation. Her seeing them was for her the hardest thing to encounter the entire season for her personally (though not for us as players because we didn't know the people of course). If there was a moment to break down completely in denial, it was then. Heck, I imagined her doing that really "No Lee, they are just acting like Walkers just like us!" and get them both killed.. But she didn't, she conquered that moment and saved Lee after he fainted. She was long passed the denial response already as it was shown in that decision of hers. For her to then fall into denial a few minutes later when Lee shows he was bitten would have her break already defined character. I understand your point entirely, though I appreciate it wasn't done by Telltale for those reasons.

12/04/2012, 06:53 am	#24
bdawgnit1785 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Walkerville Posts: 355	Alot of her ability to cope with her parents death has to stem from the fact that Lee needed her in that moment. He was not going to ever wake up again if she didn't save him and so she did. She choose life. The thing that scared me though is what if she knew Lee was already bit before you left the marsh house. When you passed out would she think you turned and give up....She needed something to fight for, something to get her past that moment. I have an 8yr old and his mother and grandmother have passed away and for his mom denial was definitely there but with his grandmother there was no denial, no asking to go visit her, just sad acceptance. This game broke me more than it would most people because I could almost see what would happen were I to get bit during the ZA. Makes me check for walkers constantly...cuz fuck that

12/04/2012, 07:16 am	#25
Robbingrobin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Somewhere safe Posts: 433	Ed and Diana had both missing chunks of flesh. And I do not think Clem would let Lee just get eaten by a bunch of zombies, even if she would have known he is infected. She even wants to put him out of his misery, after he said that she could leave her.

12/08/2012, 10:45 am	#28
Doctanian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 271	I see where you're coming from. She accepting her parent's deaths and Lee's death was a bit too fast. They way she cries whenever you suggest that they're probably dead or when you say you can't look look for them contradicts her behavior in Episode 5. "I saw my parents. It was horrible." - Clem That's basically all she says about them after seeing them as zombies. A bit melodramatic down you think?