Kenny dead or alive? (massively merged threads)

[marioluigi344]

Okay so i saw a thread a while ago about somebody showing who the people in the fields where (I believe it is this right here-http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41578)

So why don't we do that to the kenny thing to see if he really did run away off-screen in the ben scene, or if he got bit?

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by marioluigi344

Okay so i saw a thread a while ago about somebody showing who the people in the fields where (I believe it is this right here-http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41578)

So why don't we do that to the kenny thing to see if he really did run away off-screen in the ben scene, or if he got bit?

Hmm... I'll find my message from before on this matter:

Originally Posted by Mornai

Since it's always off-screen i don't think they would have made animations of him being eaten. I assume his character model walks out of view then stands there for a while and de-spawns, or however animation works(i have no clue).

Telltale has said that making death scenes for Lee is expensive, so it wouldn't make much sense to make a scene like that for Kenny that players wouldn't even see.

That's my opinion. Even if they made a death scene, they deliberately made the silhouettes generic because they know people can do this, so they'd probably make his death scene generic or some such as well(since it's obvious they want it ambiguous).

[King Cam72]

I think they didn't show it for the reason that they really didn't need to. Originally it seems you would SEE Kenny getting ripped apart and screaming in agony, although it was changed to far more somber tone in the final version. I think Kenny's reason for running off-screen is that it would have genuinely let them get to him quicker. As soon as the camera cuts to Lee's face you can clearly hear Kenny getting pushed down and grunting in pain, and judging from Lee's face it seems he heard him.

[Nuked]

If Ben dies in the bell tower, Kenny sacrifices himself to save Christa in a scene which makes his survival much more plausible.

[Vladisimo]

Anyone have any idea how they got those scenes?

[Scolecite]

TellTale Extractor Tool.

[CactusPresident]

If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

[Nuked]

Originally Posted by CactusPresident

If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

He was saved by the stache.

[aaron1290]

why dont we just extract is like scolecite said? not like i know what that means or anything! but we found out who the figures were why not extract if kenny was pinned down or not?

[Corcline27]

i just finished episode 5.(for the third time). In this one kenny saves Crista and although i love the guy..THEY KILLED KENNY! you zombie bastards!

[Nuked]

IDC if you are sacrificing yourself or not. Getting eaten alive will make you scream. like T-Dog in TV show.

[Crixus]

Ever since the kenny 'death' in episode 5 there has been tons of discussion and lots of threads about whether he died or escaped. I believe that Kenny is neither dead nor alive but in a state of limbo at the moment because thats the way telltale want it to be. I believe that initially telltale had planned that Kenny would always die in episode 5, this would explain why they had Gavin Hammon(Kenny's VO) record screams of pain which would make it obvious Kenny was being eaten alive. But then I believe when telltale realised they would be making a season 2 they weren't able to decide whether they still wanted to kill off Kenny or have him outright survive,i imagine the writers could have been divided on the issue so they decided to come to a comprimise, they would make the 'death' very ambigious so that they would have the option to bring him back in season 2 if they felt it was the right thing to do or they could never bring him back which would leave the player to assume that he did indeed die in EP 5, I think this theory explains why they decided to remove the kenny screams of pain and Gavin Hammon said keep your hopes up for Kenny is season 2. Your thoughts on this?

[worriedscarecrow]

I actually agree with you. I always thought it was deliberately ambiguous because at no point does it actually imply he's dead, that's the player that comes to that conclusion. I felt that the situation where he saved Christa made it more clear than Ben's situation. Looking at it, it could have been as you said a development decision to try and craft him into the second season.

[Hudomonkey]

Some stories are purposely left open to allow for the future like the ending of Sam and Max left open a happy ending with possibilities for a sequel Kenny's death leaves the possibility of him surviving

I think Kenny will only survive with the Christa ending because I feel that it is fitting that Ben gets Kenny killed in the end...

[AnnaSan]

I think there is still a slight chance that he made it out and survived.
Still in denial mode, but ya know xD

[lukasz1996]

Originally Posted by CactusPresident

If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

It's episode 4, after meeting Molly.

I also thought about that and I think that it's preety plausible that he survived this way.

(Sorry for my English, if i misspeld sth)

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by CactusPresident

If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

This can be further supported by seeing Kenny continue to run to the left after shooting Ben.

As for the Christa version, who would build a room without adding a doorway or window in it?

[marioluigi344]

Originally Posted by Sanchiz

You guys need listen more carefully. In my playthrough I can clearly hear him getting eaten alive...He saved Ben the trouble....

WRONG!
IN the Ben ending, you hear chewing. Who are the walkers eating? BEN! They eat dead people, as proven by Chuck's death, and in the christa ending you don't hear chewing because they didn't eat him!

[dee23]

The walking dead wiki seems to be right about every other character's status in the walking dead universe. I don't know, it just seems a little far fetched that they are only wrong about Kenny's status. Even the games ending results section said he was lost to the herd. If it said he was lost in the herd(or crowd) that would mean his whereabouts were undetermined. When something is lost to something it means they were killed. If someone is lost to the sea it means they drowned. Either Telltale are illiterate and Kenny is brought back for season 2 or they worded Kenny's status correctly and he is dead. I am incline to believe the latter. I think Telltale expected the us to understand what it means when they say someone was lost to the herd.

[dee23]

Originally Posted by Keupajer

Am I the only one who thinks, that Kenny just might survived? I saw both ways, but none of them actually showed his dead. And in the ending reviews, it says, that we "lost him in a group of walkers".

So is he dead?

The walking dead wiki seems to be right about every other character's status in the walking dead universe. I don't know, it just seems a little far fetched that they are only wrong about Kenny's status. Even the games ending results section said he was lost to the herd. If it said he was lost in the herd(or crowd) that would mean his whereabouts were undetermined. When something is lost to something it means they were killed. If someone is lost to the sea it means they drowned. Either Telltale are illiterate and Kenny is brought back for season 2 or they worded Kenny's status correctly and he is dead. I am incline to believe the latter. I think Telltale expected us to understand what it means when they say someone was lost to the herd.