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Chrizza · 11/22/2012, 02:28 pm

Letting her live with the thought that Lee turned into a walker because she didn't do anything is by far more disturbing than letting her kill him.

Willzy123 · 11/22/2012, 02:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Chrizza

Letting her live with the thought that Lee turned into a walker because she didn't do anything is by far more disturbing than letting her kill him.

I made Clem save the bullet, purely because I wanted to see Lee as a Zombie!

dubesor · 11/22/2012, 02:58 pm

I didn't let her shoot me. For logic reasons.

think about it...
#1 I am handcuffed to the heater anyway, so I am no threat at all.
#2 shooting me doesn't personally help me, I am dead either way.
#3 Noise. Clem shooting makes noise. And as everyone knows noise attracts walkers - unnecessary danger for Clem
#4 wasting bullets - ammo is rare these days. Why waste a bullet? Rather save it for a crucial situation.

these were my reason to just leave me handcuffed to the heater.
no reason to shoot me at all. there's the most logical explanation to "why the hell wouldn't you".

Obrusnine · 11/22/2012, 02:59 pm

There are several reasons.

The noise, save the bullet, handcuffed so I'm not going anywhere, and I'm not going to make her go through something like that. At least she can have some hope that maaaaybe Lee survived you know? It'll keep her going.

Luigi01080 · 11/22/2012, 03:02 pm

I had clementine kill lee with the gun. Even after the credits she got out alright with her being alive in a field and seeing assumed christa and omid. In the end i felt like it had to end the way i expected with clementine having to kill lee since he taught her how to shoot and survive on her own and she was ready to go alone after lee died.

Shrewsbury Survivor · 11/22/2012, 03:05 pm

That scene killed me.

Maximuswood · 11/22/2012, 03:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Survivor

That scene killed me.

Same here, I couldn't bear to let Clem shoot Lee. No Way

ManOnTheMoon · 11/22/2012, 03:34 pm

Leaving her only other parental figure rotting away as a zombie, just like her real parents, is a horrid thing to do to her. But I was in tears the whole time, one of the most powerful scenes in any form of media I've seen.

short_stack · 11/22/2012, 03:42 pm

i had her shoot me, it makes her a stronger person.

Rock114 · 11/22/2012, 03:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Survivor

That scene killed me.

in more ways than one...

Viser · 11/22/2012, 04:08 pm

I didn't let her shoot me because I just couldn't bear (bare?) the thought of making her go through with it. Like other people said, Lee is no longer a threat, it would waste a bullet, noise, etc... and I don't know which is worse. Making her kill her only parental figure right after seeing her parents as walkers or letting her live with the thought that he became a walker.

I don't know, personally I'd rather have her live knowing Lee's a walker, because like he said: "It won't be me.".... but like every single choice in the game, this is arguable. Each person is gonna have his or her reason for doing it. Anyhow, I don't think Clem is gonna get attached to anyone else as much as she was to Lee, so I don't think her having to off someone she really really cares about is going to be an issue simply because I don't think it'll happen.

magodesky · 11/22/2012, 04:16 pm

My thinking was exactly the opposite--why the hell would you let Clementine shoot Lee? My initial thought when Lee woke up and they were stuck in that room was that she was going to have to do it to keep her safe. But once Lee was handcuffed, there was no need for it any more. And really, hasn't the kid been through enough trauma? Do we really need to add on top of that forcing her to personally kill her last remaining parental figure just so Lee doesn't have to experience turning into a walker? Seemed pretty selfish to me.

Plus, as others have pointed out, there are logical reasons for not having her shoot him like not taking the risk of attracting more walkers and saving ammunition for real threats.

Rock114 · 11/22/2012, 04:17 pm

Personally, I had her shoot Lee because I reasoned that Lee didn't want to become a walker any more than Clem wanted him to. Plus, I think that if I had the chance to put my father/guardian out of their misery before they turned, but I left them there to reanimate, I'd hate myself for not having the strength to make sure they didn't become a monster. Plus, Clem will never have to imagine Lee as a walker because she knows that she put him out of his misery,

Dewin50 · 11/22/2012, 04:28 pm

The thing is that we are talking about Clementine here, a 9year old girl who Lee loves and don't want anything bad happen to her.

If lets say Kenny was with us for example then yes, Shooting Lee would be the best option since he's a grown up adult who can go trough hard stuff like that, but Clementine can't. Making Clementine shoot him would change her drastically in a painful way, not to mention that she would be more Scared for the rest of her life then if she just left.

Yes Lee would be forced to suffer like a zombie for the rest of his life but i think that Lee would be willing to make that sacrifice to save Clementine the pain.

Baking Pizza · 11/22/2012, 04:29 pm

I didn't let her shoot Lee. Far too emotional. Although it may make her stronger in the end, but her and Lee were BFF.

Either way I cried.

HooblaDGN · 11/22/2012, 04:33 pm

Several reasons I told her to leave me. There are the logical ones, perhaps the least important to me. Noise is an issue. It's ammunition when she's probably not that loaded with bullets.

More than that... this entire time, I've been trying to get Clem out of the crud alive this whole time, but also sane and as a 'good' person. I've never had her kill a living man, and I've tried not to kill them. As Lee says when you choose not to have her shoot you, you have to be careful with violence because it changes you. I don't want it to change her so much, only just so much as it has to for her to survive.

This is the same reason that I was hoping Omid and Christa would take care of her. Between them, they seemed like they could survive and still stay 'decent' as people.

Do I want Lee to become a walker? Hell no. But more than I don't want him to become a walker, I don't want Clem to become a monster in order to survive and I don't want her learning that she has to kill loved ones BEFORE they turn. So I see it as my last sacrifice as Lee, the final gift I can give even in that messed up, paralyzed state.

Hopefully it kept her just a little less changed by violence.

I never really even considered having her shoot me as an option. We call that 'strength' and in a zombie apocalypse it sort of is, but on a greater scale I call it horrifying, and it's in that greater scale that I hope she gets to live some day and that I prepare her for.

PeaceSellsButWhosBuyin? · 11/22/2012, 04:37 pm

You have to realize that people have different opinions on this subject, hence giving you the option to pick either one.

I just feel I would rather not have to shoot a loved one in the face. For me personally, I would probably be going the Michonne way of life. To add on top of my point, she's only a little girl, and it would attract a lot of walkers. It doesn't matter if she still got out, the point is that it's a risk/gamble doing it in the first place.

That last scene with them both was some crazy shit and I was thoroughly compromised of my manhood. Real men cry! :P

Pride · 11/22/2012, 04:54 pm

Can you even imagine for how long Lee would be suffering there, being a walker and handcuffed to a pole in a locked building?
He would stuck there like that for who knows how long!

If anything I do think it would make it easier on Clem's conscience if she'd shot him.
Fast forward , say, two years. Whenever she were to think of Lee she'd have to remember that she left him there to turn, and that he's probably still stuck there in the same position. I know MY conscience would be heavy if that were my situation.

Sefam · 11/22/2012, 05:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Pride

Can you even imagine for how long Lee would be suffering there, being a walker and handcuffed to a pole in a locked building?
He would stuck there like that for who knows how long!

If anything I do think it would make it easier on Clem's conscience if she'd shot him.
Fast forward , say, two years. Whenever she were to think of Lee she'd have to remember that she left him there to turn, and that he's probably still stuck there in the same position. I know MY conscience would be heavy if that were my situation.

It doesn't really matter. When people turn into walkers, they are already dead. Whatever is left there is not Lee anymore.

I didn't have Clementine shoot Lee, because shooting people all the time like that changes you. And nobody should have to shoot a "family" figure. Same logic applied when I got Lee to shoot Duck, Kenny shouldn't have to go through this.

Ryman · 11/22/2012, 06:16 pm

Why waste the bullet? Why further traumatize the girl I'm sure shooting her father figure in the face would help her ability to reason when running around the horde. The entire place was infested with zombies. For all I know shooting that bullet could have brought the dead on her. Save the ammo for protecting herself and whoever else shes with. I doubt it will go to waste or anything. I also kept thinking to myself that I didn't let Kenny shoot Duck. I can't ask Clem to do a role reversal on that.

11/22/2012, 04:29 pm	#15
Baking Pizza Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4	I didn't let her shoot Lee. Far too emotional. Although it may make her stronger in the end, but her and Lee were BFF. Either way I cried. Last edited by Baking Pizza; 11/22/2012 at 04:37 pm.

11/22/2012, 04:33 pm	#16
HooblaDGN Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Anaheim Area Posts: 127	Several reasons I told her to leave me. There are the logical ones, perhaps the least important to me. Noise is an issue. It's ammunition when she's probably not that loaded with bullets. More than that... this entire time, I've been trying to get Clem out of the crud alive this whole time, but also sane and as a 'good' person. I've never had her kill a living man, and I've tried not to kill them. As Lee says when you choose not to have her shoot you, you have to be careful with violence because it changes you. I don't want it to change her so much, only just so much as it has to for her to survive. This is the same reason that I was hoping Omid and Christa would take care of her. Between them, they seemed like they could survive and still stay 'decent' as people. Do I want Lee to become a walker? Hell no. But more than I don't want him to become a walker, I don't want Clem to become a monster in order to survive and I don't want her learning that she has to kill loved ones BEFORE they turn. So I see it as my last sacrifice as Lee, the final gift I can give even in that messed up, paralyzed state. Hopefully it kept her just a little less changed by violence. I never really even considered having her shoot me as an option. We call that 'strength' and in a zombie apocalypse it sort of is, but on a greater scale I call it horrifying, and it's in that greater scale that I hope she gets to live some day and that I prepare her for. __________________ "Deserves it? I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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11/22/2012, 02:28 pm	#1
Chrizza Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 58	Why the hell wouldn't you let Clementine shoot ? Letting her live with the thought that Lee turned into a walker because she didn't do anything is by far more disturbing than letting her kill him. Last edited by Jennifer; 11/24/2012 at 11:42 am.

11/22/2012, 02:58 pm	#3
dubesor Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 718	I didn't let her shoot me. For logic reasons. think about it... #1 I am handcuffed to the heater anyway, so I am no threat at all. #2 shooting me doesn't personally help me, I am dead either way. #3 Noise. Clem shooting makes noise. And as everyone knows noise attracts walkers - unnecessary danger for Clem #4 wasting bullets - ammo is rare these days. Why waste a bullet? Rather save it for a crucial situation. these were my reason to just leave me handcuffed to the heater. no reason to shoot me at all. there's the most logical explanation to "why the hell wouldn't you".

11/22/2012, 02:59 pm	#4
Obrusnine Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 22	There are several reasons. The noise, save the bullet, handcuffed so I'm not going anywhere, and I'm not going to make her go through something like that. At least she can have some hope that maaaaybe Lee survived you know? It'll keep her going.

11/22/2012, 03:02 pm	#5
Luigi01080 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 230	I had clementine kill lee with the gun. Even after the credits she got out alright with her being alive in a field and seeing assumed christa and omid. In the end i felt like it had to end the way i expected with clementine having to kill lee since he taught her how to shoot and survive on her own and she was ready to go alone after lee died.

11/22/2012, 03:05 pm	#6
Shrewsbury Survivor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Shrewsbury England Posts: 350	That scene killed me.

11/22/2012, 03:34 pm	#8
ManOnTheMoon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7	Leaving her only other parental figure rotting away as a zombie, just like her real parents, is a horrid thing to do to her. But I was in tears the whole time, one of the most powerful scenes in any form of media I've seen.

11/22/2012, 03:42 pm	#9
short_stack Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 151	i had her shoot me, it makes her a stronger person.

11/22/2012, 04:08 pm	#11
Viser Ben is a cool guy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 423	I didn't let her shoot me because I just couldn't bear (bare?) the thought of making her go through with it. Like other people said, Lee is no longer a threat, it would waste a bullet, noise, etc... and I don't know which is worse. Making her kill her only parental figure right after seeing her parents as walkers or letting her live with the thought that he became a walker. I don't know, personally I'd rather have her live knowing Lee's a walker, because like he said: "It won't be me.".... but like every single choice in the game, this is arguable. Each person is gonna have his or her reason for doing it. Anyhow, I don't think Clem is gonna get attached to anyone else as much as she was to Lee, so I don't think her having to off someone she really really cares about is going to be an issue simply because I don't think it'll happen.

11/22/2012, 04:16 pm	#12
magodesky Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95	My thinking was exactly the opposite--why the hell would you let Clementine shoot Lee? My initial thought when Lee woke up and they were stuck in that room was that she was going to have to do it to keep her safe. But once Lee was handcuffed, there was no need for it any more. And really, hasn't the kid been through enough trauma? Do we really need to add on top of that forcing her to personally kill her last remaining parental figure just so Lee doesn't have to experience turning into a walker? Seemed pretty selfish to me. Plus, as others have pointed out, there are logical reasons for not having her shoot him like not taking the risk of attracting more walkers and saving ammunition for real threats.

11/22/2012, 04:17 pm	#13
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,780	Personally, I had her shoot Lee because I reasoned that Lee didn't want to become a walker any more than Clem wanted him to. Plus, I think that if I had the chance to put my father/guardian out of their misery before they turned, but I left them there to reanimate, I'd hate myself for not having the strength to make sure they didn't become a monster. Plus, Clem will never have to imagine Lee as a walker because she knows that she put him out of his misery,

11/22/2012, 04:28 pm	#14
Dewin50 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	The thing is that we are talking about Clementine here, a 9year old girl who Lee loves and don't want anything bad happen to her. If lets say Kenny was with us for example then yes, Shooting Lee would be the best option since he's a grown up adult who can go trough hard stuff like that, but Clementine can't. Making Clementine shoot him would change her drastically in a painful way, not to mention that she would be more Scared for the rest of her life then if she just left. Yes Lee would be forced to suffer like a zombie for the rest of his life but i think that Lee would be willing to make that sacrifice to save Clementine the pain.

11/22/2012, 04:37 pm	#17
PeaceSellsButWhosBuyin? Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 25	You have to realize that people have different opinions on this subject, hence giving you the option to pick either one. I just feel I would rather not have to shoot a loved one in the face. For me personally, I would probably be going the Michonne way of life. To add on top of my point, she's only a little girl, and it would attract a lot of walkers. It doesn't matter if she still got out, the point is that it's a risk/gamble doing it in the first place. That last scene with them both was some crazy shit and I was thoroughly compromised of my manhood. Real men cry! :P

11/22/2012, 04:54 pm	#18
Pride Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 69	Can you even imagine for how long Lee would be suffering there, being a walker and handcuffed to a pole in a locked building? He would stuck there like that for who knows how long! If anything I do think it would make it easier on Clem's conscience if she'd shot him. Fast forward , say, two years. Whenever she were to think of Lee she'd have to remember that she left him there to turn, and that he's probably still stuck there in the same position. I know MY conscience would be heavy if that were my situation.

11/22/2012, 06:16 pm	#20
Ryman Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 19	Why waste the bullet? Why further traumatize the girl I'm sure shooting her father figure in the face would help her ability to reason when running around the horde. The entire place was infested with zombies. For all I know shooting that bullet could have brought the dead on her. Save the ammo for protecting herself and whoever else shes with. I doubt it will go to waste or anything. I also kept thinking to myself that I didn't let Kenny shoot Duck. I can't ask Clem to do a role reversal on that.