What's with everyone hating on Kenny?

[aerial-ballet]

No Kenny-hating from me here. He's my favorite character after Lee and Clem.

[Zeruis]

He's one of my favorite characters, and I feel like he went out in a great way. Nevertheless, that's to say I didn't hate him at one point or another. In my playthrough, he left Lee for dead twice.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by CarScar

No, I understand how people hate him. You don't help him kill Larry and he leaves you to die, twice. Despite me saving his family multiple times, if I don't help him kill someone suddenly I deserve to die. I mean, goodness.

"Do you think I liked doing what I did? I'm the kind of guy who couldn't stand letting our dog be put down."
"What if it were Katjaa or Duck? Could you do the hard thing then?"
"Never gonna happen."

Then it happens, and he fails to act upon it. He puts everyone's life in danger, similar to the meat locker situation. It's actually canon that everyone would die if Lee didn't act. I understand that it's his kid, but it is hypocritical of him. It just shows how insensitive he was too Lilly, he didn't even give her the chance to revive Larry.

But the absolutely worse thing about Kenny is this line he gave me:

"Lee, man... You know I care about Clementine, and I am a Christian man. But if it were me, asking you for help, would you be there for me? Because there's been plenty of times you haven't been."

Well, excuuuseee me but I helped save your family so many times in the past and when I ask you to return my good deeds, you tell me that? What is his fucking problem man, he'd let a little girl die because I didn't help him kill people (only times I disagreed with Kenny was killing Larry and Beatrice).

Mind you even though I said that, I still really liked Kenny. I just understand why people hate him, I mean I hated him between episodes two and four.

[Riadon]

Originally Posted by CarScar

Mind you even though I said that, I still really liked Kenny. I just understand why people hate him, I mean I hated him for the first four episodes.

Me and Kenny have always been bros, considering I helped him kill Larry:P

I can understand how you could hate him if you did not, though. Hate may be a bit of a strong word, though.

[double_u]

One thing I really like about Kenny is that he redeems himself at the end, whether it was for Ben or Christa (I prefer the latter sacrifice). In a way, even though Lee and Kenny can disagree most of the game, they actually have a lot in common when it comes to trying to do something noble at the end after screwing up really badly in life.

[Blossomed]

I'm just going to answer your questions pretty much one by one.

1. Kenny did choose to save his son which is understandable but the fact once he had done so he didn't even attempt to save Shawn, he just ran away like a coward.

2. Kenny wasn't in the wrong here. His son was being threatened and was assumed to be bitten (which he wasn't) I'm sure if it was anyone's son they would do the same.

3. Kenny tried to force his decisions onto other people which Kenny I don't think made a good leader in any way at all. Everyone should have had a say in what they wanted to do rather than Kenny making everyone do what he wanted. Although he did have a good point that all the resources in the surrounding area had been drained.

4. I believe by attempting to save him you're making the right decision, but I also agree with killing him because if Larry had came back then that would of doomed them all. The truth is saving Larry was the only human thing to do at that time, as sad as it sounds I have morals (even in game play) I believe in keeping the humanity and by saving Larry or attempting should I say is sustaining that humanity. Other people can feel free to disagree but this is just what I personally think.

5. If Clementine was bitten I'd do the same as Katjaa, I'd spend the last amount of time I had with her. I know what would have to happen and I know it would have to be taken care of but I wouldn't kill myself like Katjaa. Kenny was hurting throughout the process of Duck worsening. He knew what had to happen but he was in denial of it because of what had happened in Episode 1 - A New Day. The incident with Shawn, Lee also points this out in Episode 3

6. I agree with this only very dearly though, I believe in forgiveness but I don't believe Ben should have been killed but cut loose from the rest of the group. He should of just been dumped, Kenny had every right to be upset/angry at Ben but the death sentence he was threatening was unfair. I think if you're going to live in a new world then you've still got to have some humanity, that's the only way you'll get by.

I hope I helped answer your questions. Overall not everyone hates Kenny as much as it seems, a lot of people are quite fond of him. But, my personal opinion I think he's a coward and selfish, there's been too many occasions when Lee has been in danger and Kenny hasn't stepped up and helped. (I think this is when you disagree with him though, not sure) Either way I've never been fond on Kenny.

~Bloss

[AnnaSan]

In my actual playthrough, there are some parts where I wanted to kick him in the face because we have some disagreements but I never hated him. He's my bro no matter what.
In my pro-Kenny playthrough though, I love how Lee said in the end; "Kenny, he was my friend. We were assholes together." I also love his bro-speech, made me teary Dx

[vivec]

"He was tough to like , but i agreed with him most of time. So yeah we were assholes together i guess"

[AnnaSan]

Originally Posted by vivec

"He was tough to like , but i agreed with him most of time. So yeah we were assholes together i guess"

^this

[J_Scheff]

Originally Posted by VirtR

I dont hate him but hes kind of a dick.

1.After he saved duck why did he run away instead of help me with shawn?

2. Larry wasn't even dead, he didn't even want to try to CPR with us or at least check his pulse before smashing his head in. Larry was a scumbag but keep in mind, if Larry wouldn't have died then Lilly wouldn't have freaked out and shot Carly.

3. When I shot the girl in the street out of mercy, we went and looted the store, zombies broke in and I was trapped under the door with 2 zombies on top of it. That dick face just stood there and watched me struggle for my life. I mean thats practically killing me, but I got out and when confronted he just said something like "well, you got out didn't you? Everything worked out".

What the hell Kenny.

He is only a dick if you are the dick first. He always has your back if you have his.

[Rozzer616]

I could never hate Kenny my bro for life. His choices make sense to me and he always had my back

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by J_Scheff

He is only a dick if you are the dick first. He always has your back if you have his.

Wait a minute... So refusing to help him kill Larry and Beatrice makes me a dick? Uhm, what? That was literally the only times I didn't side with Kenny and guess what? As a result of me not helping him murder people, he gave me this line at the end of episode four:

"Lee, man... You know I care about Clementine, and I am a Christian man. But if it were me, asking you for help. Would you be there for me? Because there's been plenty of times, when you haven't been."

Oh, well excuse me Kenny. The only times I was there for you and your family was:

• When Duck was being attacked by walkers at the farm
• When Larry accused Duck of being bitten
• When I fed you and your family at the drug store
• When I was so trusting that I told you it was my parent's store
• When I consoled you about letting Shawn die
• When Lilly was yelling at the both of us at the beginning of episode two
• When you asked me what I thought of his idea of getting a boat
• When I fed you and your family, again, at the motor inn
• When I saved your wife's life when David attacked her
• When I reaffirmed my loyalty towards him at the dairy
• When I once against saved his wife and later his son when the St. Johns attacked
• When I told you the coast was a good idea, once again
• When I told you the truth about my past
• When I fed and watered your dying son
• When I talked you down in stopping the train
• When I offered to put Duck out of his misery, for him and his family
• When I saved his life at the beginning of episode four

Oh but nooo, I was totally not there for your and your family. The worst thing is how he'd leave a little girl to die over a grudge with me. Kenny really was a horrible person for most of the game. I believe he redeemed himself in episode five but even then... I understand why people hate him.

[DreadMagus]

I hate betrayal.

Kenny betrays you if you don't indulge his murder fetish.

Thus, I hate Kenny.

[vivec]

I bet Katjaa would done the same thing with larry.

[Rock114]

Originally Posted by vivec

I bet Katjaa would done the same thing with larry.

Actually, if Kat had been there I probably would have tried to save him.

[vivec]

Originally Posted by Rock114

Actually, if Kat had been there I probably would have tried to save him.

No i meant if kat was there instead of kenny. she would killed larry as well

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by vivec

No i meant if kat was there instead of kenny. she would killed larry as well

Doubtful, I don't even think the thought would cross her mind. She'd probably try to revive him along with Lilly (she is the group's doctor after all). Katjaa's reaction to the truth about what happened to Larry, after all, was quite grim.

"What happened to Larry when you were trapped in the fridge?"
"I was giving him CPR with Lilly when Kenny put an end to it.."
"What did he do?"
"He smashed his head in."
*gasp*
"... Katjaa."
"Everything keeps changing..."

[double_u]

Originally Posted by CarScar

Doubtful, I don't even think the thought would cross her mind. She'd probably try to revive him along with Lilly (she is the group's doctor after all). Katjaa's reaction to the truth about what happened to Larry, after all, was quite grim.

"What happened to Larry when you were trapped in the fridge?"
"I was giving him CPR with Lilly when Kenny put an end to it.."
"What did he do?"
"He smashed his head in."
*gasp*
"... Katjaa."
"Everything keeps changing..."

I agree. In fact, I would go a step further to say that Kenny killing Larry contributed to Katjaa opting out. Duck played a huge role in Katjaa's suicide, no doubt about that. But Kenny's decision in the meat locker seemed to have shocked Katjaa so great that she saw the ZA had changed Kenny so much to the point he was no longer the husband she knew. So when Duck died, Katjaa probably saw she had nothing left in the world. This is, of course, totally based on conjecture.

[Robert Morgan]

Kenny strikes me as being an uber-Conservative sort of guy. I don't have any real evidence to back this up, of course, but his "you're with me or you're against me" mindset reminds me of George Dubya's "you're with us or you're against us in the fight against terror."

I don't think this necessarily makes Kenny a despicable character. It just makes him more interesting, and it definitely explains why he's so quick to turn on Lee after just one decision.

[Gman5852]

Just wanted to argue this one little point.

Originally Posted by Advanced

1. If Clem or Shawn is in trouble, wouldn't you make sure Clem is safe before Shawn is? Especially if there's another person around to help the other.

This was NOT what happened with Shawn and Duck. Kenny saved Duck first yes and that is understandable, what he did after that was not. He got Duck to safety, then, knowing Duck was safe and that Shawn was still in danger, ran away after we were screaming for his help.

The rest of Kenny's actions were understandable to a degree, but this, along with the fact that he is a giant baby if you disagree with him on ANYTHING, was the main reason I didn't trust him. Cowardly and immature.