Telltale Games

bsantanu · 04/22/2008, 05:33 pm

First of all. Congratulations to Tell Tale for a wonderful 2 seasons! I really enjoyed the pacing, the attention to continuity, the humor, and the overall ludicrousness.

However, I was always a little disappointed with the decision to use 3d models for the overall art direction. Although I am used to it now, I miss the old cartoon-style characters from "sam and max hit the road".

Could there possibly be a change in art direction in season 3? (most likely a pipe dream)

tobar · 04/22/2008, 06:08 pm

I just wanna see that art test they did on Sam.

**Jake** · 04/22/2008, 06:16 pm

Probably not! We're pretty happy with the direction of the look of Sam & Max.

mish · 04/22/2008, 06:49 pm

The current look is pretty great imho. it could use some detailing and polishing but it's a good direction to go in.

xChri5x · 04/22/2008, 06:52 pm

Cell shading would look horrible on Sam & Max.

Ashton · 04/22/2008, 06:56 pm

I for one dont like the idea, unless it WAS for a one-scene/one-puzzle bit as a sort of "retrogame" look... I'm very happy with the 3D animations.

wisp · 04/23/2008, 12:56 am

maybe with the right setting cell-shading could work for sam & max, but it would be to big of a break...so i would rather see some new facial animations, that angry face of max is a bit overused..

Dangerzone · 04/23/2008, 03:22 am

yeah... i like the current look of sam and max, with the hard drawn textures for a cartoon-esque appearance, but still not blatantly hiding the fact that its a 3D game

im with wisp, i would much rather see better animation from the games...faster and more complex zany animation to match the comics and original hit the road game... the characters and the way they have mostly been for the past 2 years is very slow, lethargic, and stale (apart from the few hand animated game assets, intros, and ending sequences)

i think it would be cool if they kept certain auto animated things like with lip-syncing but started to hand animate the various other gestures, cutscenes, and animations

unsilviu · 04/23/2008, 03:48 am

Well, there is always the possibility to use Cry Engine 2...

Sir Lemming · 04/23/2008, 08:38 am

Not this again...

But anyway, why would they be cel-shaded? They've never really had that look in 2D media. Occasionally in the cartoon, but it's not like this is an anime or something.

Now, something like Team Fortress 2, on the other hand, could work, since it's more of a subtle, paint/colored pencil type thing which is more in line with the Sam & Max look. But I think a drastic change in style would burn too many bridges and break too much continuity among the games. Something like what they did in episode 205, bringing back old characters and locations, wouldn't really work.

Silly Bob · 04/23/2008, 08:42 am

What I think would be cool, if there's a puzzle that involves playing an old 2D video game, and they go to play the game and you play it through in the LA style of Sam and Max, all pixely and nostalgic.

Badwolf · 04/23/2008, 09:36 am

I dunno about a whole series, but it'd be interesting to see the characters cel-shaded for parts of the game if there was another Reality 2.0 style episode, or they go into a cartoon or something.

I'd be interested to see how they look cel-shaded, but I'm more han happy the way they are now.

AllenB · 04/23/2008, 02:04 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Bob

What I think would be cool, if there's a puzzle that involves playing an old 2D video game, and they go to play the game and you play it through in the LA style of Sam and Max, all pixely and nostalgic.

You mean like the VR game in Hit the Road?

Silly Bob · 04/23/2008, 04:58 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenB

You mean like the VR game in Hit the Road?

Sorta, but the opposite, maybe they need to play an old game to solve a puzzle, and in the game they are classic Lucasarts styles of themselves.

Mirko · 04/23/2008, 05:54 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobar

I just wanna see that art test they did on Sam.

I would like to see that, too! Perhaps as a feature on the DvD... or something on the website, if there is a second "Summer of Sam and Max".

**Jake** · 04/23/2008, 06:53 pm

I'm pretty sure the "Summer of Sam & Max" this year is "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People"

Amaterasu · 04/24/2008, 12:53 am

mmm how about something with the new comic drawing style (the big sleep)?
http://telltalegames.com/community/comics/samandmax/
I really like this drawing style. XD there hasn't been any 2d drawing quest games for a long time now...

04/22/2008, 05:33 pm	#1
bsantanu Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9	anyone hoping for a cel-shaded look for season 3? First of all. Congratulations to Tell Tale for a wonderful 2 seasons! I really enjoyed the pacing, the attention to continuity, the humor, and the overall ludicrousness. However, I was always a little disappointed with the decision to use 3d models for the overall art direction. Although I am used to it now, I miss the old cartoon-style characters from "sam and max hit the road". Could there possibly be a change in art direction in season 3? (most likely a pipe dream)

04/23/2008, 08:42 am	#11
Silly Bob Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Everywhere you wanna be! Posts: 197	What I think would be cool, if there's a puzzle that involves playing an old 2D video game, and they go to play the game and you play it through in the LA style of Sam and Max, all pixely and nostalgic. __________________ "Must Deliver Videos, must deliver vid... MICKY ROONEY?... must deliver videos."

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