Telltale Games

Pantagruel's Friend · 12/29/2008, 06:07 am

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Originally Posted by Botap

I'm with you on this one. Max as a playable character would be too much of him, I think. He's an awesome sidekick, but his style of humor just isn't suited to a main character role. It'd be like giving Kramer from Seinfeld his own show.

That said, I understand why Telltale did away with the Max icon. Never knowing what's going to happen when you use Max on something isn't exactly conducive to logic puzzles. Then again, that kind of mystery can be fun...

Well, it would be similar to Sam's gun - and the similarities don't necessarily end here

As to why Telltale did away with the icon, we should probably ask them - Telltale people, if you read this, can you please enlighten us here?

Maxilyah: OK, now I understand what you're saying. Playing Max in a single puzzle (or a minigame? wow!) certainly sounds interesting

tabacco · 12/29/2008, 09:36 am

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Originally Posted by Pantagruel's Friend

Well, it would be similar to Sam's gun - and the similarities don't necessarily end here

As to why Telltale did away with the icon, we should probably ask them - Telltale people, if you read this, can you please enlighten us here?

Actually, if you were to search the forum, you'd find that this question was answered many times before

Pantagruel's Friend · 12/30/2008, 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by tabacco

Actually, if you were to search the forum, you'd find that this question was answered many times before

Actually, you're quite right

After digging for a while, I found this thread - there are some very good points in posts #26 and #30. However, these are partly negated by Sam's gun, which has the same wildcard effect as Max would. Let me mention, though, that I'm always tempted to use the gun even in the most impossible situations, and probably the same would be the case with Max.

Shwoo · 12/30/2008, 02:19 pm

I don't the gun is as much of a wildcard as Max. You can predict the kind of effect a gun would have on the object you're using it on, and you can't predict what Max is going to do.

Pantagruel's Friend · 12/31/2008, 07:37 am

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Originally Posted by Shwoo

I don't the gun is as much of a wildcard as Max. You can predict the kind of effect a gun would have on the object you're using it on, and you can't predict what Max is going to do.

Ah yes, the well known gun effect of turning ordinary cheese into swiss cheese

and, to the extent the gun is predictable, so is Max - with the gun, the target object will be punctured or at least concussed, then with Max, it will be brutally savaged

Maxilyah · 12/31/2008, 12:15 pm

Also, Sam's never really shot and wounded someone. He's too much of a softy, whereas Max would probably injure and/or kill someone.

ac1041 · 01/02/2009, 03:07 pm

in season 3, they should allow u 2 switch beetween sam and max, I wish i could see his boxing glove in his own inventory, He is so much cooler

seson3churious · 01/03/2009, 06:00 am

There was this one time that you could play in maxes body. Remember that time on S2E3 at Jurgens lair when Sam switched bodies with Max?

Jon NA · 01/03/2009, 10:41 am

Yes, but that was Sam in Max`s body.Not max in his own body!!! (and not max`s inventory neither since they exchanged their inventory)
Although, at least we figured out where Max keeps his inventory items!!! LOL

Mouldcube · 01/03/2009, 11:56 am

oh, and his head was used as an inventory item in 101 in sam's dream.

Maxilyah · 01/03/2009, 02:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Mouldcube

oh, and his head was used as an inventory item in 101 in sam's dream.

I remember that. I tried using him on all sorts of things. Sam said no to all of them.
DENIED!

seson3churious · 01/04/2009, 04:54 am

Yes,i remember that!

Quuux · 01/06/2009, 10:48 pm

I just envisioned Max's inventory picture to be his tail and when you click on it, the animation to reveal the inventory...

Shwoo · 01/07/2009, 03:41 am

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Originally Posted by Maxilyah

I remember that. I tried using him on all sorts of things. Sam said no to all of them.
DENIED!

The first thing I tried to use Max's head on was Sam. Sam said something like "I don't think Max would appreciate me sticking his head there", which made me go o_o.

I expected to be able to play as Max when Sam was hypnotised in Culture Shock. Seeing the scene fade back in and I was still playing as Sam surprised me a little.

Maxilyah · 01/07/2009, 08:04 pm

Maybe if they just switched for certain PARTS of an episode, instead of having the option to switch back and forth. I understand the argument that it WOULD be a huge problem trying to double the dialogue. But if you only play the character for a certain part of the game, that wouldn't be a problem.
I could just imagine taking out Max's gun and trying to use it on Sam.
Max: As much fun as that sounds, I don't think I'll kill Sam today.

Ashton · 01/07/2009, 08:57 pm

Another thought: give max the ability to alter items. Maybe crushing things in his powerful jaws. This would give a convenient way to make puzzles unsolvable "after max chewed on it, the key doesnt fit" and can be useful too USE> lockbox> on max. "Max chews on the box a while and it cracks open, revealing !!! inside"

Maxilyah · 01/08/2009, 02:01 pm

That's a really good idea. I wonder if you could use him to alter PEOPLE.
"Use Max on Bosco."
Max: No, thanks. Bosco's already altered enough.
XD

Pantagruel's Friend · 01/10/2009, 12:02 am

I also think it's a good idea. However, it yet again comes back to the problem of Max being an always available last resort in puzzle solving - which the Telltale guys & gals don't seem to like.

Maxilyah · 01/11/2009, 06:49 pm

I think I like playable Max better. That way instead of using Max on something, you could just click on it to see his reaction.

Ashton · 01/11/2009, 08:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Maxilyah

I think I like playable Max better. That way instead of using Max on something, you could just click on it to see his reaction.

I agree, this is the best idea, but it effectivly doubles the code for the game, so I honestly think this is the least-likely option...

Also the idea of using max as a last resort... giving him an altering ability makes him far from a last resort, because it could make the game unwinnable if you alter the wrong item! Perhaps in this scenario even make a puzzle have an alternate solution that involves altering an item --- that you need unaltered later in the game to win! (classic example: Zork 3, you can solve the block puzzle by dropping the book, but you must have the book in your inventory to enter the last room of the game, so you make the game unwinnable and you dont even know it until the very end!)

12/30/2008, 02:19 pm	#24
Shwoo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,486	I don't the gun is as much of a wildcard as Max. You can predict the kind of effect a gun would have on the object you're using it on, and you can't predict what Max is going to do. __________________ This is a link to the Sam & Max wiki. This is a link to a Sam & Max deviantART group.

01/03/2009, 10:41 am	#29
Jon NA It's N/A. Jon, N/A Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Semnān, Iran OldName: Milkman08 Posts: 625	Yes, but that was Sam in Max`s body.Not max in his own body!!! (and not max`s inventory neither since they exchanged their inventory) Although, at least we figured out where Max keeps his inventory items!!! LOL __________________ Is Stan an anthropomorphic purple crocodile in disguise? ~ apenpaap Good night! Don't let the Basij bite! ~ Comrade Pants

01/07/2009, 08:04 pm	#35
Maxilyah Not a stalker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,004	Maybe if they just switched for certain PARTS of an episode, instead of having the option to switch back and forth. I understand the argument that it WOULD be a huge problem trying to double the dialogue. But if you only play the character for a certain part of the game, that wouldn't be a problem. I could just imagine taking out Max's gun and trying to use it on Sam. Max: As much fun as that sounds, I don't think I'll kill Sam today. __________________ ~ Maxilyah Aku akan makan anak-anak anda. My DeviantArt

01/08/2009, 02:01 pm	#37
Maxilyah Not a stalker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,004	That's a really good idea. I wonder if you could use him to alter PEOPLE. "Use Max on Bosco." Max: No, thanks. Bosco's already altered enough. XD __________________ ~ Maxilyah Aku akan makan anak-anak anda. My DeviantArt Last edited by Maxilyah; 01/08/2009 at 02:17 pm.

01/11/2009, 06:49 pm	#39
Maxilyah Not a stalker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,004	I think I like playable Max better. That way instead of using Max on something, you could just click on it to see his reaction. __________________ ~ Maxilyah Aku akan makan anak-anak anda. My DeviantArt

12/31/2008, 12:15 pm	#26
Maxilyah Not a stalker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,004	Also, Sam's never really shot and wounded someone. He's too much of a softy, whereas Max would probably injure and/or kill someone. __________________ ~ Maxilyah Aku akan makan anak-anak anda. My DeviantArt

01/02/2009, 03:07 pm	#27
ac1041 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12	in season 3, they should allow u 2 switch beetween sam and max, I wish i could see his boxing glove in his own inventory, He is so much cooler

01/03/2009, 06:00 am	#28
seson3churious Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Croatia,Osijek Posts: 182	There was this one time that you could play in maxes body. Remember that time on S2E3 at Jurgens lair when Sam switched bodies with Max?

01/03/2009, 11:56 am	#30
Mouldcube Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In the place...with the ordinary town things in it... Posts: 75	oh, and his head was used as an inventory item in 101 in sam's dream. __________________ My site. Status: Lame. Probably. "Here lies a pirate who's wish was to plunder. He found a fake map, led him 5000 feet under." Wow, it's been so long since I was last here. I miss everyone. :I

01/04/2009, 04:54 am	#32
seson3churious Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Croatia,Osijek Posts: 182	Yes,i remember that!

01/06/2009, 10:48 pm	#33
Quuux Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 329	I just envisioned Max's inventory picture to be his tail and when you click on it, the animation to reveal the inventory...

01/07/2009, 08:57 pm	#36
Ashton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,017	Another thought: give max the ability to alter items. Maybe crushing things in his powerful jaws. This would give a convenient way to make puzzles unsolvable "after max chewed on it, the key doesnt fit" and can be useful too USE> lockbox> on max. "Max chews on the box a while and it cracks open, revealing !!! inside"

01/10/2009, 12:02 am	#38
Pantagruel's Friend Still spinning Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 626	I also think it's a good idea. However, it yet again comes back to the problem of Max being an always available last resort in puzzle solving - which the Telltale guys & gals don't seem to like.

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