Telltale Games

moskow603 · 03/28/2009, 04:00 pm

I bought the series today and beat it after about 3-4 hours, and I was surprised to see that there wasn't a preview to the next episode, similar to SBCG4AP. I know that they have a whole season preview for Wallace and Gromit, but come on. The least you could do is put an "On the next episode of Wallace and Gromit's Grand Adventures....".

Guybrush Threepwood · 03/29/2009, 02:57 am

Woah, woah, woah. Sam & Max never had previews until the next episode, and I liked that. It kept you in suspense until the screenshots and information started coming out.

moskow603 · 03/29/2009, 08:04 am

yeah but Strong Bad did

Chris1 · 03/29/2009, 01:42 pm

I think that was more to do with giving Wii owners a preview of the next game.

Steam, Xbox Live, and of course Telltale's own site all let you put up demos and videos. The Wii Store however, does not, so even if it meant getting the video up earlier than normal it made sense to put the teaser for the next game in with the current one.

jweir · 04/01/2009, 11:51 am

Yep, I'd have to agree with Chris, and Strong Bad should not be taken as a standard for every other Telltale title. Both seasons of Sam & Max didn't have previews vs. one season of Strong Bad (with it's secondary release not supporting demos or preview videos on their own) having previews. It all makes perfect sense and I see no need to complain.

charlieboy2001 · 04/02/2009, 03:25 am

I missed the 'next episode' thing too. Maybe the button should say 'Trailer' instead...

Murray the Chao · 04/03/2009, 03:08 am

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Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood

Woah, woah, woah. Sam & Max never had previews until the next episode, and I liked that. It kept you in suspense until the screenshots and information started coming out.

But Sam & Max had connected episodes, W&G as well as SB, do not.

Will · 04/03/2009, 01:42 pm

All of our games so far have had some overarching plot. Strongbad's wasn't as elaborate as Sam & Max, but it was there. WG also has a story arc that will develop over time, I assure you.

Ribs · 04/03/2009, 03:11 pm

Whoawhoawhoa, what was SB's? At end of Homestar Ruiner, KOT threatens SB with taxes. End of Badia the Free, Sb says "I hope my band game is home" Next, The camera pans in on Dangeresque poster and Dangeresque to 8BIE is obvious. Is that an over arching plot?

moskow603 · 04/08/2009, 04:40 pm

I agree. There wasn't much of an overarching plot in SBCG4AP. A person who, lets say buys Episode 3, isn't going to need to know anything from Episodes 1 & 2 to play it.

Pantagruel's Friend · 04/08/2009, 11:06 pm

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Originally Posted by moskow603

I agree. There wasn't much of an overarching plot in SBCG4AP. A person who, lets say buys Episode 3, isn't going to need to know anything from Episodes 1 & 2 to play it.

It's the same with Sam and Max. Sure, some of the puns will go unnoticed if you haven't played the previous episodes (especially in Chariots), but you can still solve the game all right.

Murray the Chao · 04/09/2009, 12:12 am

No, it isn't. SB didn't have a central villian or underlying plotline (such as Hugh Bliss trying to hypnotize everyone, or the Soda Poppers ruling Hell and seeking revenge on S & M), as Sam & Max did.

Pantagruel's Friend · 04/09/2009, 02:12 am

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Originally Posted by Murray the Chao

No, it isn't. SB didn't have a central villian or underlying plotline (such as Hugh Bliss trying to hypnotize everyone, or the Soda Poppers ruling Hell and seeking revenge on S & M), as Sam & Max did.

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Originally Posted by Pantagruel's Friend

... but you can still solve the game all right.

and the focus was on the second part

Rather Dashing · 04/09/2009, 06:04 am

I'd still say the plot of SBCG4AP was dissapointly weak, if not non-existant. Perhaps they were going for a different "story structure" to avoid predictability or something of that sort, but in the end I didn't feel like I'd played through a "plot" so much as I'd just spent several quite separate days in the life of Strong Bad. And aside from, perhaps, five seconds of mention at the start and end of a game(not even all of them), they could be played in any order without messing with the "narrative".

The games were still good, and I honestly didn't expect an impressive plot from the Homestar Runner universe. But something like the DNA evidence pun running through the episodes would have been appreciated, with it actually amounting to something at the end.

moskow603 · 05/05/2009, 06:41 pm

Episode 2 out now

*MarkDarin* · 05/05/2009, 09:31 pm

Since this got bumped, I'll go ahead and throw in my 2 cents.
As lead designer of SBCG4AP, and can safely say that an overarching plot was never our goal. We wanted to treat the series as if it were a sitcom, with new stories taking place each episode within the same general areas. As with every good sitcom, we made sure to reference things that happened in past episodes as well as plant tiny seeds for events we knew would happen in the future (Arrested Development does a GREAT job of doing that!)

So yeah, don't call it an overarching plat because it clearly wasn't and it was never meant to be. This is also why the previews we especially important for that series.

That is what we were talking about, right? Sorry, I get distracted easily.

...Oooh, shiny thing...

splash1 · 05/06/2009, 04:38 am

Mostly the end of SBCG4AP was hints about the next Episode, they weren't leading on to the final Episode such as Sam & Max, In Wallace & Gromit I noticed that it will have a story Arch much like Sam & Max, each Telltale game is unique and will have new openings each episode/series, Strong Bad is the example of a fun arcade game. Extended Play is what I mean, so this kind of explains it, no previews for W&G.

Teeth · 05/08/2009, 12:35 pm

I'd also say it'd be easier to do recaps for SBCG4AP - all the clips have to take place in the same location or there'd be loading screens between them - so for example, in the preview for Dangeresque 3, all the events are in the field, even when they take place somewhere else in the actual game. SBCG4AP has fewer, larger locations (an entire house and its surroundings are one "room" for example) while Wallace and Gromit has loads and loads of seperate locations, but they're much smaller (Lounge, hallway, dining room, kitchen, Wallace's room, basement, front garden and back garden all seperate "rooms"). If something similar to the Sam and Max Season One credits was done (where all the locations are combined and compressed into one) it might work, but it wouldn't look as good (the shelves behind Bosco are just textured on!)

W&G156 · 05/09/2009, 05:58 am

i noticed at the end of The Last Resort Monty Muzzle walking by putting a flyer on wallace and gromit's gate. this looked like some kind of preview. will something similar be done at the end of Muzzled!

moskow603 · 05/21/2009, 07:14 pm

i did notice that
btw there aren't THAT many areas in W&G
Theres definitely more areas in SBCG4AP so idk what you are talking about

03/28/2009, 04:00 pm	#1
moskow603 Strong Bad:Awesome Police Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 48	Previews I bought the series today and beat it after about 3-4 hours, and I was surprised to see that there wasn't a preview to the next episode, similar to SBCG4AP. I know that they have a whole season preview for Wallace and Gromit, but come on. The least you could do is put an "On the next episode of Wallace and Gromit's Grand Adventures....". __________________ Sam, Max, and Strong Bad: The Awesomeness Police

03/29/2009, 02:57 am	#2
Guybrush Threepwood You fight like a cow! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,228	Woah, woah, woah. Sam & Max never had previews until the next episode, and I liked that. It kept you in suspense until the screenshots and information started coming out. __________________ Sign here for Bone 3! (with 701+ signatures!)

03/29/2009, 08:04 am	#3
moskow603 Strong Bad:Awesome Police Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 48	yeah but Strong Bad did __________________ Sam, Max, and Strong Bad: The Awesomeness Police

04/01/2009, 11:51 am	#5
jweir Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: middle of nowhere, PA Posts: 407	Yep, I'd have to agree with Chris, and Strong Bad should not be taken as a standard for every other Telltale title. Both seasons of Sam & Max didn't have previews vs. one season of Strong Bad (with it's secondary release not supporting demos or preview videos on their own) having previews. It all makes perfect sense and I see no need to complain. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and I'm sitting here responding to posts.

04/08/2009, 04:40 pm	#10
moskow603 Strong Bad:Awesome Police Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 48	I agree. There wasn't much of an overarching plot in SBCG4AP. A person who, lets say buys Episode 3, isn't going to need to know anything from Episodes 1 & 2 to play it. __________________ Sam, Max, and Strong Bad: The Awesomeness Police

03/29/2009, 01:42 pm	#4
Chris1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 213	I think that was more to do with giving Wii owners a preview of the next game. Steam, Xbox Live, and of course Telltale's own site all let you put up demos and videos. The Wii Store however, does not, so even if it meant getting the video up earlier than normal it made sense to put the teaser for the next game in with the current one.

04/02/2009, 03:25 am	#6
charlieboy2001 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 96	I missed the 'next episode' thing too. Maybe the button should say 'Trailer' instead...

04/03/2009, 01:42 pm	#8
Will Telltale Team Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sausalito, CA Posts: 2,331	All of our games so far have had some overarching plot. Strongbad's wasn't as elaborate as Sam & Max, but it was there. WG also has a story arc that will develop over time, I assure you.

04/03/2009, 03:11 pm	#9
Ribs Numberwang Quizmaster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ancient Babylonia Cucumber Status: Lengthwise Yes Status: Yes Posts: 3,965	Whoawhoawhoa, what was SB's? At end of Homestar Ruiner, KOT threatens SB with taxes. End of Badia the Free, Sb says "I hope my band game is home" Next, The camera pans in on Dangeresque poster and Dangeresque to 8BIE is obvious. Is that an over arching plot?

04/09/2009, 12:12 am	#12
Murray the Chao Lover of Chao(+ Lungfish) Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 446	No, it isn't. SB didn't have a central villian or underlying plotline (such as Hugh Bliss trying to hypnotize everyone, or the Soda Poppers ruling Hell and seeking revenge on S & M), as Sam & Max did. __________________ Viva la revolucion! Last edited by Murray the Chao; 04/09/2009 at 12:23 am.

04/09/2009, 06:04 am	#14
Rather Dashing Throw Baby Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,816	I'd still say the plot of SBCG4AP was dissapointly weak, if not non-existant. Perhaps they were going for a different "story structure" to avoid predictability or something of that sort, but in the end I didn't feel like I'd played through a "plot" so much as I'd just spent several quite separate days in the life of Strong Bad. And aside from, perhaps, five seconds of mention at the start and end of a game(not even all of them), they could be played in any order without messing with the "narrative". The games were still good, and I honestly didn't expect an impressive plot from the Homestar Runner universe. But something like the DNA evidence pun running through the episodes would have been appreciated, with it actually amounting to something at the end.

05/05/2009, 06:41 pm	#15
moskow603 Strong Bad:Awesome Police Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 48	Episode 2 out now __________________ Sam, Max, and Strong Bad: The Awesomeness Police

05/05/2009, 09:31 pm	#16
MarkDarin Telltale Team Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 468	Since this got bumped, I'll go ahead and throw in my 2 cents. As lead designer of SBCG4AP, and can safely say that an overarching plot was never our goal. We wanted to treat the series as if it were a sitcom, with new stories taking place each episode within the same general areas. As with every good sitcom, we made sure to reference things that happened in past episodes as well as plant tiny seeds for events we knew would happen in the future (Arrested Development does a GREAT job of doing that!) So yeah, don't call it an overarching plat because it clearly wasn't and it was never meant to be. This is also why the previews we especially important for that series. That is what we were talking about, right? Sorry, I get distracted easily. ...Oooh, shiny thing...

05/06/2009, 04:38 am	#17
splash1 Electric Tuna Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Jungle Subway Posts: 2,588	Mostly the end of SBCG4AP was hints about the next Episode, they weren't leading on to the final Episode such as Sam & Max, In Wallace & Gromit I noticed that it will have a story Arch much like Sam & Max, each Telltale game is unique and will have new openings each episode/series, Strong Bad is the example of a fun arcade game. Extended Play is what I mean, so this kind of explains it, no previews for W&G. __________________ *inFamous, is the best game ever and you can't say it isn't cause it would a lie!!! SO THERE! Sam: "This goes down to fiery bowls of America's filthiest city." Max*: "You've been listening to my inner bathroom narration again!"

05/08/2009, 12:35 pm	#18
Teeth Meh. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 494	I'd also say it'd be easier to do recaps for SBCG4AP - all the clips have to take place in the same location or there'd be loading screens between them - so for example, in the preview for Dangeresque 3, all the events are in the field, even when they take place somewhere else in the actual game. SBCG4AP has fewer, larger locations (an entire house and its surroundings are one "room" for example) while Wallace and Gromit has loads and loads of seperate locations, but they're much smaller (Lounge, hallway, dining room, kitchen, Wallace's room, basement, front garden and back garden all seperate "rooms"). If something similar to the Sam and Max Season One credits was done (where all the locations are combined and compressed into one) it might work, but it wouldn't look as good (the shelves behind Bosco are just textured on!) __________________ ^ Thanks for reading that. Last edited by Teeth; 05/08/2009 at 12:43 pm.

05/09/2009, 05:58 am	#19
W&G156 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 56	i noticed at the end of The Last Resort Monty Muzzle walking by putting a flyer on wallace and gromit's gate. this looked like some kind of preview. will something similar be done at the end of Muzzled!

05/21/2009, 07:14 pm	#20
moskow603 Strong Bad:Awesome Police Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 48	i did notice that btw there aren't THAT many areas in W&G Theres definitely more areas in SBCG4AP so idk what you are talking about __________________ Sam, Max, and Strong Bad: The Awesomeness Police

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