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Old 07/08/2009, 12:22 pm   #1
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Default Does anyone else get stuck on puzzles for the wrong reasons...?

For example, I got completely stuck on the very simple ninja action hero puzzle where you had to follow the treasure map.

The problem wasn't figuring out the puzzle logic -- I figured that out right away. The issue was that for some reason my brain couldn't work out what the drawing for the start location was supposed to be, on the treasure map. To me it looked like a dancing house with bongo drums or something... I stared and squinted at it for a good 45 minutes before my brain finally started to interpret what that shape was.

After finally figuring out what it was, I now see <what it's supposed to be> every time I look at it. It's kind of like an M.C. Escher painting where focusing differently will make you see the picture in a completely different way. But it's frustruating to get hung up on a puzzle for a dumb reason like that though.

Anyone else?
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Old 07/08/2009, 12:24 pm   #2
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I was starting at what I thought might be the X. Not at the well.
I wandered aroung for 20 Minutes without a plan.
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Old 07/08/2009, 12:39 pm   #3
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I kept inspecting the weather vane (rather than putting it on the idols), Guybrush would pull it out and i could see the symbols for a few secs, worked for the first one but the following idols i was like, wtf, those shapes aren't on there!
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Old 07/08/2009, 12:43 pm   #4
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I kept inspecting the weather vane (rather than putting it on the idols), Guybrush would pull it out and i could see the symbols for a few secs, worked for the first one but the following idols i was like, wtf, those shapes aren't on there!
I did that on the last idol. Is there another way to solve it? I hear Marquis De Singe's crys of *ahem* "agony" are another way to find out what's the right combination?
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Old 07/08/2009, 12:44 pm   #5
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I did that on the last idol. Is there another way to solve it?
I think it would be weird to stick this thing where the other ones went with him in this position.
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Old 07/08/2009, 12:48 pm   #6
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I was using xpadder to map my 360 controller and on the idols I could never get the faces to turn right (Whenever it would go to turn them it would always turn them two spaces rather than 1) So at first I assumed there was some trick to spinning the dials (like maybe turning the lower ones allowed you to turn the upper one differently etc) I started to get so frustrated and was looking up hints on the hint forum.

I forget what suddenly made me use the mouse, but when I did.. Uh man was I in hysterics
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Old 07/08/2009, 04:07 pm   #7
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I've got another one...:

When following Hemlock's ancient map, one of the symbols on the map is wind. So I noticed that whenever the wind sound effect would play, it would be accompanied by a visual wind animation that would streak accross the screen in a specific direction.

So instead of using the weather vain like I was supposed to, I kept trying to see what direction the wind animations would go towards. And it worked a couple times (probably by sheer luck), which further tricked me into thinking that this was the solution to the puzzle. But then it led me astray a few times and I was all... WTF... I labored under this misconception for about 30 more minutes before it finally occured to me to use the weather vain.
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Old 07/08/2009, 04:15 pm   #8
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I did that on the last idol. Is there another way to solve it? I hear Marquis De Singe's crys of *ahem* "agony" are another way to find out what's the right combination?
Did it the same way... and I'm curious as well: Can anybody confirm that there's another way?
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Old 07/08/2009, 04:20 pm   #9
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I did that on the last idol. Is there another way to solve it? I hear Marquis De Singe's crys of *ahem* "agony" are another way to find out what's the right combination?
Aye, I used his sounds and stopped turning the blocks whenever he sounded, um, happier, and it worked.
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I solved it by listening to the sounds he made... didn't know you could use the weather vane for this one.
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Old 07/08/2009, 04:27 pm   #11
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Same... used the Marquis' sounds of "pleasure" vs. pain. It didn't even occur to me to use the weather vain, after I had tried sticking it in the usual location and Guybrush mentined that he didn't think it had the right "slot configuration".
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Old 07/08/2009, 04:31 pm   #12
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Few a good few minutes I tried to pull the eyes out of the wall at the jail.
With the hint of soft cheese throughout the game I tried to use it as lubrication...and then 'Ooooooooh.'
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Few a good few minutes I tried to pull the eyes out of the wall at the jail.
With the hint of soft cheese throughout the game I tried to use it as lubrication...and then 'Ooooooooh.'
This happened to me too
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Old 07/08/2009, 05:33 pm   #14
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Just wondering, if this happened to anyone, for me there were a few things i tried that didnt result in anything, like when i tried to put the nose potplant in the well in the jungle, guybrush pulls out the plant, then just puts it away, doesnt say anything, also i tried the weather vane on the ???? in the jungle and Guybrush wont do or say anything?
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Old 07/08/2009, 05:40 pm   #15
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This happened to me too
I actually thought of sticking the blank cheese wheel into the idol first, because it was the same shape. When it didn't do anything I kept wondering how I could get some eyes on it so I wandered back into town, walked past the jail and saw the carvings again and thought, "It's so obvious now!"

I also loved the little nod to Wallace and Gromit Guybrush does at that bit.
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Old 07/08/2009, 05:44 pm   #16
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Did it the same way... and I'm curious as well: Can anybody confirm that there's another way?
The wrong choises gives you a painfull sound, while the right ones gives a more releaved sound.
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Old 07/08/2009, 05:49 pm   #17
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I thought that I had to find a way to pry the eye carvings from the jail walls. When I figured out it was the cheese, I figured it all out for good.
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Old 07/08/2009, 07:58 pm   #18
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when i found the weather vane i was trying to find new places by following the wind. I try that for 30 minutes. i was doing cycles but i was sure i would end up somewhere eventually... then i found out what i was supposed to do...
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Old 07/08/2009, 08:05 pm   #19
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I kept inspecting the weather vane (rather than putting it on the idols), Guybrush would pull it out and i could see the symbols for a few secs, worked for the first one but the following idols i was like, wtf, those shapes aren't on there!
Ha, me too
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Old 07/08/2009, 08:08 pm   #20
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I end up getting stuck on stupid things in between puzzles. Sometimes I just phase out and have no clue what I'm doing.
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